Good books on egalitarian themes

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You've reminded me of something, Zoii. When my mother was already quite mature in age - somewhere in her fifties - she discovered that she had two sisters she never knew existed. Apparently my grandmother had had them out of wedlock and been forced (?) to give them up for adoption.

But the fact was that my grandmother was a totally dependent person who had no means to support herself other than charming a man; and having the relationship that led to those babies, and later relinquishing those babies so she could move on to another relationship... both would have been matters of survival for her.

It's one of the things I always remember when people sigh about how family life was so much better fifty years ago (or whatever); I think about the price paid by women like my grandmother, and I'm so very grateful that I will never have to pay that price. I'm educated, I'm employable, I have resources to draw on that her society never gave her. How can anyone say that was better?
 
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You've reminded me of something, Zoii. When my mother was already quite mature in age - somewhere in her fifties - she discovered that she had two sisters she never knew existed. Apparently my grandmother had had them out of wedlock and been forced (?) to give them up for adoption.

But the fact was that my grandmother was a totally dependent person who had no means to support herself other than charming a man; and having the relationship that led to those babies, and later relinquishing those babies so she could move on to another relationship... both would have been matters of survival for her.

It's one of the things I always remember when people sigh about how family life was so much better fifty years ago (or whatever); I think about the price paid by women like my grandmother, and I'm so very grateful that I will never have to pay that price. I'm educated, I'm employable, I have resources to draw on that her society never gave her. How can anyone say that was better?
So in terms of religious law, what would the church advocate for our grandmothers at that time. My mother told me that she was raped at age 15 by a guy that came from a wealthy family. He was charged by the police in the small town. He traveled to Sydney, presumably with his lawyers and after making a deposition, the charge progressed no further.

She knew the family who had her baby and when the girl was a school child she would stand outside the fence and watch her from a distance almost everyday. Apparently noone knew until after her death when the daughter of the child dug into her ancestry.
 
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It's one of the things I always remember when people sigh about how family life was so much better fifty years ago (or whatever); I think about the price paid by women like my grandmother, and I'm so very grateful that I will never have to pay that price. I'm educated, I'm employable, I have resources to draw on that her society never gave her. How can anyone say that was better?
Indeed. Your grandmother's story is quite compelling.

When we first got married 40 years ago, my wife wanted nothing more than to be a stay at home mom. She had a cosmetology license from a set of highschool trade classes she took. I would not let her abandon that license until we moved out of state and she would have had to take the classes all over again to the new state's standards. Once she got here she had a number of minor jobs. So I encouraged / pressured her to take some college classes to get a certificate to do what I do. Now we both work for the government and if anything happens to me (or us, god forbid) she will have an adequate salary to live on rather comfortably.
 
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I'll add this: I've had conversations with a couple of female friends about gender identity in the last couple of years. One of my best friends feels like she's female inside -- not just her body or her socialization, but her internal identity. Another of my best friends feels like me, gender-neutral inside. So I've learned that this is something that varies among people.

I've had this conversation with some transgendered females I know. They *feel* female inside and I cannot seem to comprehend that feeling at all. My biological body is the just the clothing that I'm currently forced to wear, but I'm the same me inside no matter what clothing I'm wearing. I could wake up in a male body tomorrow and I'd be the exact same me. Certainly, people might treat me differently and I'd have a greater social status for being in a male body, but *I* wouldn't be any different.

So I don't seem to have any knowledge or understanding of what gender really is, so just have to take it all on faith that there is such a thing for some people.
 
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