Read #589.
The vast multitude of Rev 7:9, are all the faithful Christians, people from every race nation and language: in Jerusalem. Why can't you read plain Words?
That whole chapter describes earthly scenes, Verses 15-17 is after the Millennium.
I assume you meant 'in heaven'? Such a hurry to push your theories, you pile error onto error!
Revelation 4:1... this is just Johns temporary visit to heaven.
Revelation 11:18...Nothing about anyone going to heaven there.
Revelation 19:7-10... We are not told where the Marriage Supper will take place.
Using these scriptures in an attempt to prove a rapture, just shows how bereft of proof and how desperate are those who cling to that pretentious notion.
Your writing is confused and jumbled. Try to use better English and grammar, so we don't have to decipher your posts.
I agree with what Rev 20:4-6 plainly tells us.
There is no blanket Jewish redemption. Only those who have freely chosen Jesus now will be saved.
Isaiah 3:8-9, Isaiah 4:3-4, Isaiah 6:11-13, Zephaniah 1:18, Amos 2:4-5, Micah 2:3-5, Luke 19:27, plus many more prophesies that prove God's Judgement on Judah will destroy all unbelievers.
You still fail to allow for the truth of the House of Israel, now the Christian peoples, are the recipients of God's promises and will receive His Blessings of the holy Land and later, of Eternal life.
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1. I wrote down Revelation 7:9 about the twelve tribes when I meant 7:4-8 is Israel.
Verse 9 is the great multitude of everybody are the tribulation saints.
They are the martyred souls who go to Heaven where the Lamb is, vs. 9-10.
John is still in Heaven talking to the elder and not on earth.
2. Vs 15-17 is about God in the millennial kingdom not after the 1000 years Daniel 7:13-14, 21-22.
The Antichrist will make war on the saints in the tribulation Revelation 13:7. This happens in the middle of the tribulation after the 7th trumpet days when Satan gives his power seat and authority to the Antichrist Revelation 13:2.
The martyred multitude are probably the souls under the altar Revelation 6:9-11 because they are the first ones killed who are given white robes and are told to wait on their fellow brethren who had to be killed.
The saints in 13:7 and 14:13 and 15:1-2 are the ones in the First Resurrection Revelation 20:4-6 and go into the millennial kingdom to rule and reign Revelation 20:4, not after the 1000 years Revelation 20:8-10 and the New Heaven and the New Earth which is after the millennial age and the GWTJ Revelation 20:11-15.
3. Revelation 4:1; John's temporary visit?
The significance is not the temporary vision of all Revelation but that a voice sounded like a trumpet and said, Come up Hither which shows going from earth to Heaven.
And I will shew things hereafter.
Revelation 1:19 is the time factor for for John to write the things which thou hast seen (the vision of the stars and candlesticks) v 20, the things which are (the church age) Revelation 2-3 and the things which shall be hereafter (after the church age). This is why the church has to be raptured before the tribulation.
What kind of spin are you going to put on this?
4. Revelation 11:18 is about the reward of the saints during the tribulation. It is written in the middle of the tribulation days which is during the 7th trumpet Revelation 11:15.
Most likely it will be in Revelation 19:7-10 so the tribulation saints are all in Heaven and ready for the Marriage of the Lamb 19:7-10.
Revelation 19:7 the Marriage of the Lamb is come and in verse 8 she is arrayed in linen white which is the righteousness of the saints. Blessed are those who are called to the Marriage of the Lamb.
Verse 14 we are part of Christ that leaves Heaven and is part of the armies of Heaven and verse 17 is called the Great Supper of the Great God.
The Marriage of the Lamb in Revelation 19 is plain as a nose on your face.
5. Revelation 20:4-6 is plain; the martyred tribulation saints that didn't take the mark from the Antichrist the last 3.5 years in the time of Jacob's trouble are resurrected from the dead right before the 7 vials that contain the Wrath of God Revelation 15:1-2 which is judgement on the beast kingdom worshippers Revelation 16:2.
There is a 1000 years between the First and Second Resurrection, v5. The Second Resurrection which is called the Second Death will have no power over them.
The Second Death is what the GWTJ is all about vs 11-15.
6. Blanket redemption is not about God says you are saved without repentance and the free choice of the individual.
The Jews see Christ coming in the clouds and know he is the one whom they pierced Revelation 1:7.
The Jews of that generation will be saved and have to be saved because the covenant of David was unconditionally eternal based on repentance. Get a clue! They will Repent because God will not go back on his eternal promise.
7. All of Israel will be saved when God makes them a nation in one day Isaiah 66:6-9.
The unbelievers will be cut off Zechariah 13:8-9.
8. There is no scripture that says or implies the church or Gentiles is Israel or that they will be at the head of the nations or be the heir of the Holy land or that they are a part of Israel and Judah who are the two sticks that have to become one.
The church is never trodden down like Israel and Judah. They are never backslidden as Israel and Judah. The church is never scattered because of sin.
The church was never a part of Israel or Judah to begin with.
When Israel and Judah become one stick they have a history with each other physically and spiritually.
Your replacement theology is nowhere in the ballpark of being scriptural. Jerry kelso