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There is much activity around the Euphrates River where there are four angels bound.
Rev. 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

Could this be WWIII? From the military build up in the area, I would say the whole world is there. The Kurds are pushing for independence, Iran is camping out in Syria,Israel is nervous, Putin playing papa,Iraq is shaky, Turkey threatening trouble against the Kurds. So if the angels are loosed into this powder keg, a lot of people are going to die.
 

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There is much activity around the Euphrates River where there are four angels bound.
Rev. 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

Could this be WWIII? From the military build up in the area, I would say the whole world is there. The Kurds are pushing for independence, Iran is camping out in Syria,Israel is nervous, Putin playing papa,Iraq is shaky, Turkey threatening trouble against the Kurds. So if the angels are loosed into this powder keg, a lot of people are going to die.
Underneath the touchy feely talk of diplomacy, there is a lot of contrary lines of rage; wrath restrained until the time of the further unfolding of God's purposes. (Psalm 76.10)
 
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Daniel 11:42 shows the antichrist armies in the middleast with 2 of gogs armies in chase (islam) with tidings out of the north (russia) and east (china) on their way when he plants himself in the valley of decision (45) and at this time he does that, the lambs book of life is opened when all eyes will see his coming (rev1:7) some arise to everylasting life and some to everylasting shame... this is the center of the final battle.. also see rev 14:14-20 which shows the same event but the end result of the battle in v20.

When Christ says only the Father knows the day and hour of his coming.... v14 shows an angel coming out of the temple and telling Jesus on the cloud it is time to reap... again some to life some to shame...
 
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There is much activity around the Euphrates River where there are four angels bound.
Rev. 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

It always kills me how the four angels have been prepared for the specific hour and day and month and year. It sounds like they have been handpicked for a very specific time.

Could this be WWIII?

You are probably right. This will probably be the bottom part of Daniel 11, just before the Devil's time is up. I doubt that it's going to be a "WW" like we've been historically used to.

From the military build up in the area, I would say the whole world is there. The Kurds are pushing for independence, Iran is camping out in Syria,Israel is nervous, Putin playing papa,Iraq is shaky, Turkey threatening trouble against the Kurds.

Too much CNN and Fox News.

So if the angels are loosed into this powder keg, a lot of people are going to die.

I think you got that one right. This part will lead us right up to the second coming. And even when the man of sin can see that it's right here, "news from the east", he goes even more crazy. Like he wants to kill as many as he can before his time is up. Like when the Roman soldiers went nuts even when Titus told them to stop. He wanted to save the temple structure but they had become a force of their own and went crazy.

The angels bound at the Euphrates river is symbolic language. This is like the drying up of the Euphrates river to make the way for the Kings of the East. This is about Divine direction. Like lightning coming from the East. An angel rising from the East with the seal of the living God. But Divine destruction always comes from the north wind of Heaven, from "out of one of them".

The angels bound at the great river Euphrates is a similar concept to the drying up of the great river Euphrates that prepares the way for the coming of the Kings from the East which will be bad news for the king of the north.

The Euphrates river was a large natural encumbrance preventing invading armies from the north coming down into Israel. You should be able to find all the OT verses referring to Divine destruction coming down from the north. Nebuchadnezzar is a fine example of destruction which came down from the north and wiped out Jerusalem.

This also falls into the same idea as the Assyrian or King of the north. But calling him the "King of the North, is I think, like calling him the King of Destruction. The Destroyer (Abaddon). Isaiah calls him the "Assyrian", Assyria was to the north of Israel. Destruction always came down from the "north".

"For I am bringing disaster from the north, even terrible destruction." ... Set up the banner in Zion: come together, do not delay: for I bring evil from the north wind,

"Then the LORD said, "This means destruction will break out from the north on all ... cry, O city; Melt away, O Philistia, all of you; For smoke comes from the north,

"Egypt is like a very fair heifer, but destruction cometh; it cometh out of the north.

"Then the LORD said to me, "Out of the north the evil will break forth on all the inhabitants of the land.

When this river dries up the way is made for destruction to come down from out of the north. This is Divinely mandated destruction, not a natural or man made event. This will be the warm up for Armageddon.

Good guys come from the East:

"And I saw another angel ascending from the east, with the seal of the living God

"For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

"But news from the east and the north shall alarm him, and he shall go out with great fury to destroy and devote many to destruction.

Kings from the East, there's two of them:
God the Father and God the Son.

"Hide us from the face of the
One who sits on the throne
and from the wrath of
The Lamb.

I bet this is not your normal King from the North of Magog Hal Lindsey material.

I Googled for the current total number of armed forces and found around 27.5 million. So 200 Mil is an awful lot. That's too many for them to stay at the Euphrates river for long. There won't be enough people for them to kill over there after we loose 25% on mankind during the first four trumpets.

Maybe I'll switch to Pre Trib after all.

Actually, that does sound like a better deal.
 
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It always kills me how the four angels have been prepared for the specific hour and day and month and year. It sounds like they have been handpicked for a very specific time.
Yeah! It makes me wonder about when they were bound and why.I have a theory, but, I won't share it right now.I believe in spiritual entities because the Bible speaks of them.
You are probably right. This will probably be the bottom part of Daniel 11, just before the Devil's time is up. I doubt that it's going to be a "WW" like we've been historically used to.
Really? I would love to know what you think WWIII will be like. :) Some people think it has already started. I don't know about that.:scratch: There is a lot of sabre rattling going on in the world though. You know that theme of the U.N. day of peace is worrisome, especially in light of this verse.
1Thes. 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

They will be SAYING Peace and safety on September 21(day), this month,this year
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
Do you see it? The day the month and the year.
Too much CNN and Fox News.
OK,brother. :p ^_^ Well sometimes they are right.^_^
The angels bound at the Euphrates river is symbolic language. This is like the drying up of the Euphrates river to make the way for the Kings of the East. This is about Divine direction. Like lightning coming from the East. An angel rising from the East with the seal of the living God. But Divine destruction always comes from the north wind of Heaven, from "out of one of them".

I don't think it is symbolic language. I believe they are actually there beneath the river bed. I understand that there is a lot of what people call symbolic language, but I do not believe this is symbolic.I think people need to understand that there are angels, both good and bad, Holy and fallen. Our Father has given all of them assignments.
Kings from the East, there's two of them:
God the Father and God the Son.
So, what do you think the 200 million man army is? Is it men or demons?
Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

I know, people say this is symbolic. That being said, I still think this is not symbolic. Even though we cannot visualize it as St. John did, what he saw, imho, is bound to happen.It is beyond what we can imagine.

I Googled for the current total number of armed forces and found around 27.5 million. So 200 Mil is an awful lot. That's too many for them to stay at the Euphrates river for long. There won't be enough people for them to kill over there after we loose 25% on mankind during the first four trumpets.

Maybe I'll switch to Pre Trib after all.

Actually, that does sound like a better deal.

Amen!:amen: I agree.As I watched the devastation of the two hurricanes and the 8.2 earthquake, I thought, my goodness, what will the tribulation look like?
 
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Really? I would love to know what you think WWIII will be like. :) Some people think it has already started. I don't know about that.:scratch: There is a lot of sabre rattling going on in the world though. You know that theme of the U.N. day of peach is worrisome, especially in light of this verse.
1Thes. 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

I just don't think that it's going to be a standard ordinary war, like the one that began with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand. I don't think that it will brew itself up over a multiple week buildup that we can watch on CNN. I'm not even sure that we'll have electricity when it begins. Without warning, when they feel secure, the man of sin will set out to destroy many.

They will be SAYING Peace and safety on September 21(day), this month,this year

Yes I remember, that was a good find HM, that's eerie. I could be wrong but I think it's still a bit too soon for the sudden destruction. But Paul never gives the timing. How long will it be from them saying "peace and safety" until the "sudden destruction"? 3 days? or 3 months? If the 371 days of Noah turn out to be correct, the last week of December would be a fit. Imagine if it happened on Christmas Eve or New Years Eve. Most of the world is distracted at that time.

"For the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect

Do you see it? The day the month and the year.

Not yet, I can't find any markers for it. I have a hunch, based on the Bible's use of thirds, that it will be in around the last 3 or 4 months before the seventh trumpet

So, what do you think the 200 million man army is? Is it men or demons?

I hope it's going to be men and their military equipment being directed by four demonic angels. The previous trumpet's locusts were demonic angels, so that sounds bad enough. 200 million demons running around with orders to kill is a bit too much.

Amen!:amen: I agree.As I watched the devastation of the two hurricanes and the 8.2 earthquake, I thought, my goodness, what will the tribulation look like?

I think it's going to be bad like Jesus said, unless those days be shortened. But it probably won't be like we imagine. Like when Jesus came the first time, people didn't know what was going on. They didn't know who John the Baptist was supposed to be. And even John the Baptist had to ask about Jesus, “Are you the one who is to come, or shall we look for another?” Doesn't that make you wonder? If the Holy Spirit was upon him, shouldn't he have known?

But I wouldn't worry about it until it happens. I think it's going to be fast. I think so much has happened already that went unrecognized that when the bad part begins, it will be almost over.

If we are in the group who has kept His Word about patient endurance and is kept from the hour of trial, just have enough food and candles and batteries to last for a year. Have a battery operated radio and a bunch of granola bars. That's all the duration that I'm worried about. I have a lake at the end of my street, but if you're not near any water, that's something to think about.

But my cats eat a lot. So i might have to get busy with the fishing pole. Or they might have to get busy with the mice :).

"Come, my people, enter your chambers,
and shut your doors behind you;
hide yourselves for a little while
until the fury has passed by.

"For behold, the Lord is coming out from his place
to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity,
and the earth will disclose the blood shed on it,
and will no more cover its slain.



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Russia: Syria government forces now on east bank of Euphrates river



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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Advance units of the Syrian government army have crossed the Euphrates river and taken up position on the eastern bank, a Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman said on Friday.

U.S.-backed Syrian militias opposed to President Bashar al-Assad had set the Euphrates River as a red line, saying they would not allow government forces to cross onto the east bank.

“After a major victory near Deir al-Zor, the Syrian government army continues to clear Islamic State terrorists from the eastern regions of the country,” ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told a news conference.

“The suburbs of this provincial center have been liberated. Advance units have successfully crossed the Euphrates and are holding positions on its eastern bank.”
Russia: Syria government forces now on east bank of Euphrates river
 
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15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

Why would God need to kill 1/3 of mankind ?
Arent people kind enough ?
 
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There is much activity around the Euphrates River where there are four angels bound.
Rev. 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

Could this be WWIII? From the military build up in the area, I would say the whole world is there. The Kurds are pushing for independence, Iran is camping out in Syria,Israel is nervous, Putin playing papa,Iraq is shaky, Turkey threatening trouble against the Kurds. So if the angels are loosed into this powder keg, a lot of people are going to die.
For starters I do not think God actually binds any angels in a river, that point leads many to think they are Demons, which they are not. As usual people misunderstand what these things actually mean.

Rev. 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in (Greek word used is EPI) the great river Euphrates. 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. (Its an appointed DATE so to speak with destiny.)

EPI Means :
#1909 ἐπί epi {ep-ee'}

a root; TDNT - n/a; prep

—Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) upon, on, at, by, before
2) of position, on, at, by, over, against
3) to, over, on, at, across, against
(NOT REALLY....IN but they used IN. )

—Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
A primary preposition properly meaning superimposition (of time, place, order, etc.)

These four Angels of God are APPOINTED to the Region (Euphrates River Region) so to speak, a superimposition of time, place, order. They are BOUND to an APPOINTED TIME. They are not bound in the River.

This is not a World War. This is Plagues from God onto mankind. The Seals bring Wars via the Anti-Christ taking away peace from the world. This is Four Angels, leading a Godly Army of 200 million, which kills a 1/3 of all mankind.

Armageddon happens during the Seven Vials, not the Seven Trumpets.

Notice the Demons in the First Woe have Breastplates of Iron. These in the Second Woe have Breastplates that are the exact likeness of the High-priests of Israel. {having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone}

Rev. 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

Plagues of God...........Not a war. IMHO.
 
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For starters I do not think God actually binds any angels in a river, that point leads many to think they are Demons, which they are not. As usual people misunderstand what these things actually mean.
It does not say they are demons. It says they are angels. I think we can agree that the fallen angels are bound within the Earth. So, who does the binding? And why not at the Euphrates River?

IMHO St. John meant they are there, and he was very specific designating an hour,day,month, and year that they would be released from their bonds.
This is not a World War. This is Plagues from God onto mankind. The Seals bring Wars via the Anti-Christ taking away peace from the world. This is Four Angels, leading a Godly Army of 200 million, which kills a 1/3 of all mankind.
IMHO peace has already been taken from the world. We don't need the Antichrist for that. I see this as an escalation of what already is. We will never see peace again until the Prince of Peace returns and puts down all opposition.But, whether the angels are Holy or Fallen, the text says they are bound there . It did not say they were the ones leading the 200mil. army.
 
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It does not say they are demons. It says they are angels. I think we can agree that the fallen angels are bound within the Earth. So, who does the binding? And why not at the Euphrates River?

IMHO St. John meant they are there, and he was very specific designating an hour,day,month, and year that they would be released from their bonds.
Yes, I know its not Demons, but you would be surprised (maybe not, we get all kind of odd stuff on here) at how many think these are Demonic Spirits because they are "Supposedly Bound" in a River by God, and the truth is God would nit bind his Holy Angels in a River for thousands of years, that never made any sense to me, so upon my studying the root words, it never says IN, as you can see, it says upon, at, by before etc. etc. It all has to do with time, the Greek word EPI is used to describe time in many ways, he sat THEREON...a Donkey is speaking about when Jesus rode the Donkey into Jerusalem. After, about, against, among etc. it has to do with a superimpostion of time. Superimpostion is like placing one image over another, but this is a superimpostin of time.

The Strong's Greek Dictionary explains it this way:

A primary preposition properly meaning superimposition (of time, place, order, etc.), as a relation of distribution [with the genitive case], that is, over, upon, etc.; of rest (with the dative case) at, on, etc.; of direction (with the accusative case) towards, upon, etc.:—about (the times), above, after, against, among, as long as (touching), at, beside, X have charge of, (be-, [where-]) fore, in (a place, as much as, the time of, -to), (because) of, (up-) on (behalf of) over, (by, for) the space of, through (-out), (un-) to (-ward), with. In compounds it retains essentially the same import, at, upon, etc. (literally or figuratively).

Which is why they were "prepared for an hour, day, month and a year" Its pointing to a certain DATE.......its a superimpostion of time. They are Bound to an appointed date, and they will bring 200 Million horsemen with them unto that Euphrates river basin at an appointed time. God doesn't bind his Angels in Rivers. They are bound to a DATE...an Hour, day, month and year at the Euphrates.

IMHO peace has already been taken from the world. We don't need the Antichrist for that. I see this as an escalation of what already is. We will never see peace again until the Prince of Peace returns and puts down all opposition.But, whether the angels are Holy or Fallen, the text says they are bound there . It did not say they were the ones leading the 200mil. army.

I am just comparing REAL WARS with Plagues of God. Thus the Anti-Christ brings forth a series of Wars, conquering to conquer. Armageddon will be Nations gathering to War but Jesus via the oly Spirit will wipe them out, so its a sort of war.

But this even with the 200 Million is an army of Angelic being killing men via PLAGUES. It doesn't mean they are bound there, if you study it in depth you can see it mean bound to an appointed time AT the Euphrates River. Using IN instead of AT really messed this translation up didn't it?

The very next verse shows us they are bound to a TIME....an Appointed time. God doesn't bind his angels in Rivers, bit he does give them specific tasks no doubt.

Nevertheless, we can agree to disagree...God bless.
 
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Yes, I know its not Demons, but you would be surprised (maybe not, we get all kind of odd stuff on here) at how many think these are Demonic Spirits because they are "Supposedly Bound" in a River by God, and the truth is God would nit bind his Holy Angels in a River for thousands of years, that never made any sense to me, so upon my studying the root words, it never says IN, as you can see, it says upon, at, by before etc. etc.
They are NOT God's Holy angels. They are satan's fallen angels. Look at what Apostle Peter says about them.
2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

He was talking about the angels that sinned(Gen. 6). Jude wrote about the same.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Couldn't these be the fallen ones at the Euphrates River?

I agree our Father has not bound His Holy Angels anywhere, but, the above passages say the angels that sinned are bound. And it is a Holy angel, the sixth of the seven with trumpets that releases those four at the Euphrates.
Rev. 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

It is hard to wrap our minds around some of these events.
 
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They are NOT God's Holy angels. They are satan's fallen angels. Look at what Apostle Peter says about them.
They are Gods Holy Angels that are bound to an appointed time. Verse 20 tells us they are delivering Gods Plagues....20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

Rev.9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

The breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue and sulfur yellow of the horsemen equate to the breastplate worn by the high priest. Exodus 28:15 You shall make the breastplate of judgment. Artistically woven according to the workmanship of the ephod you shall make it: of gold, blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and fine wove, linen, you shall make it.

2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

He was talking about the angels that sinned(Gen. 6). Jude wrote about the same.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Couldn't these be the fallen ones at the Euphrates River?

I agree the Demons released from the Abyss are Demons, they are allowed to HURT and MAIM for Five months, but not kill. That is the 1st Woe.

The Angels that are bound to an APPOINTED TIME are not released from the Abyss and they are allowed to kill 1/3 of mankind. They bring Plagues OF GOD, as I pointed out above. The 200 Million "Horsemen" are not Humans, its an Angelic horde bringing the plagues of God against those who worship devils and gods of gold, silver, iron, brass, stone and wood.

I understand all about 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 1:6, but it doesn't apply here. Why would you have one Woe with Demons followed by another Woe with Demons? These 200 Million are not humans on horses, the Kings of the East come forth n the 6th Vial, this is the 6th Trumpet. They are not Demons either, they are Angelic beings bringing death unto wicked men. Reexamine it all my friend. God only showed it to me a year ago so I spent 30 years thinking the same way, until it hit me, the Kings of the East are a totally different event, then I started studying it in depth. I have written a blog on it about a year or two ago.

I agree our Father has not bound His Holy Angels anywhere, but, the above passages say the angels that sinned are bound. And it is a Holy angel, the sixth of the seven with trumpets that releases those four at the Euphrates.
Rev. 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

It is hard to wrap our minds around some of these events.

True, but Jesus releases both the Anti-Christ and Angels that burn the Grasses/trees, and poisons the waters etc. etc. via plagues. The Angels release the Demon hordes, Apollyon is the one that kills the two-witnesses in Rev. 11, but the angels also release these four angels who are bound to a time and place, they then lead the 200 Million horsemen. Their job is to kill 1/3 of mankind.

Just think on it......relook at it, I never ask anyone to believe me, but to look and pray on things.

God Bless.
 
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They are Gods Holy Angels that are bound to an appointed time.
How are you so absolutely sure they are God's Holy angels? The reference to verse 20 is not convincing imho to them being Holy. The Fallen angels can accomplish the plagues
The breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue and sulfur yellow of the horsemen equate to the breastplate worn by the high priest. Exodus 28:15 You shall make the breastplate of judgment. Artistically woven according to the workmanship of the ephod you shall make it: of gold, blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and fine wove, linen, you shall make it.

IMHO you are reaching here.There is no equivalency here.
he Angels that are bound to an APPOINTED TIME are not released from the Abyss and they are allowed to kill 1/3 of mankind
Where is the Abyss? St. John did not say the four (imho fallen) angels were bound to a time, but prepared FOR an appointed time, hour, day, month, year.
four angels who are bound to a time and place, they then lead the 200 Million horsemen. Their job is to kill 1/3 of mankind.
You are not considering fallen angels. I see that now. OK.
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How are you so absolutely sure they are God's Holy angels? The reference to verse 20 is not convincing imho to them being Holy. The Fallen angels can accomplish the plagues
Why would you not understand they are angels?

1. Because you Assume they are bound in he River Euphrates which they are not, they are bound to an appointed time. You have no reason other than that to think they are demons.

2. Woe number one was a Demon Horde, and the Demons could not kill, only harm and maim. Yet the Second Woe is supposed to be another set of "Demons" that ca Kill !!!

Apollyon is the one that kills the two-witnesses so we know he is a Demon. There is only 58 Million horses in the world. These therefore are Angelic beings, what do we sees Jesus riding back from heaven and all of his people? Horses !!

IMHO you are reaching here.There is no equivalency here.
They are the EXACT LIKENESS of the High Priests. Nothing is in Revelation by mistake, its a big code book. Out of 404 verses 289 verses have Old Testament phraseology, that is on purpose, so K=John did not put the colors of the High Priest in there for no reason.

Where is the Abyss? St. John did not say the four (imho fallen) angels were bound to a time, but prepared FOR an appointed time, hour, day, month, year.

You mean that's what you get out of the English Translation. Its clear through studies that the Angels are bound to an appointed time.

The first mistake everyone makes here is to assume the 2000 Million are a part of the Kings of the East in Rev. 16 but its not. The Second mistake is not understanding is that there are TWO WOES, and not understanding God is very symmetrical in everything He does. There would be no reason foe a different Woe using DEMONS Again.....Woe one would have just mentioned that Demons killed a 1/3 of mankind.
 
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Why would you not understand they are angels?
I understand that they are angels!I understand that they are angels that sinned against our Father (Gen. 6). They have been imprisoned(bound) as punishment for their sin. Our Father has no reason to put Holy Angels under bondage.A fallen angel is not a demon as you keep saying i am saying. I think you equate fallen angel with demon. That is where your understanding and my understanding differs.

Apollyon is the one that kills the two-witnesses so we know he is a Demon. There is only 58 Million horses in the world. These therefore are Angelic beings, what do we sees Jesus riding back from heaven and all of his people? Horses !!
Ah! I was right. You call fallen angels demons! They are not. Let me show you that they are angels, but fallen ones that followed satan.
Rev.12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

See! satan has angels too. Now these verse show that fallen angels are not demons.Now if satan has angels too, the four bound in(at) the Euphrates River
belong to him. How do I know? I know because a Holy Angel releases them from their bonds to cause havoc on the Earth.
You mean that's what you get out of the English Translation. Its clear through studies that the Angels are bound to an appointed time.
If you want to persist in your misunderstanding, then go ahead.I am not going to fight with you about it, so peace. :)
 
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