The Sign

Wolfe · Sep 17, 2017

Dave Watchman said:
The comma makes for 666.

6,666.

In our decimal number system, the value of a digit depends on its place, or position, in the number. Each place has a value of 10 times the place to its right. A number in standard form is separated into groups of three digits using commas. Each of these groups is called a period.

Still, the number is not 666

It's six thousand, six hundred and sixty six.
Ignoring the former 6 would indeed make it 666, but you can't ignore it.
The numbers separated by the commas aren't distinct numbers, rather factors in the existing number, as evidenced by the fact that there is a former 6 in the thousands place.

Wolfe · Sep 17, 2017

Wolfe said:
Still, the number is not 666

It's six thousand, six hundred and sixty six.
Ignoring the former 6 would indeed make it 666, but you can't ignore it.
The numbers separated by the commas aren't distinct numbers, rather factors in the existing number, as evidenced by the fact that there is a former 6 in the thousands place.

Unless of course, if any instance or period in which three sixs are aligned can be attributed to the mark of the beast, then it's literately everywhere.

Jus sayin' not playin'

Goatee · Sep 17, 2017

I know I will be sending smoke signals from down below when I pass from this mortal coil! Lol

Dave Watchman · Sep 17, 2017

Wolfe said:
Still, the number is not 666

It's six thousand, six hundred and sixty six.
Ignoring the former 6 would indeed make it 666, but you can't ignore it.
The numbers separated by the commas aren't distinct numbers, rather factors in the existing number, as evidenced by the fact that there is a former 6 in the thousands place.

Six thousand,

Six hundred and Sixty Six.

I'm just fooling around anyway Wolfe.

I don't really think Goatee is the "sign",
the mark of the beast.

Wolfe · Sep 17, 2017

Dave Watchman said:
Six thousand,

Six hundred and Sixty Six.

I'm just fooling around anyway Wolfe.

I don't really think Goatee is the "sign",
the mark of the beast.

I know, I'm just insufferably nit picky.

JAM2b · Sep 17, 2017

Anytime a date is given to foretell the return of Jesus or the end times, I completely ignore it because we are told by Scripture that we won't know.

These topics always remind me of a bumper sticker I saw once. It said, "Jesus is coming! Look busy!"

Juneairsbanjos · Sep 17, 2017

DeaconDean said:
Did anybody see the documentary "The Sign" on DirecTV?

According to it, and several people on the documentary, the Tribulation will kick off, and a fulfillment of Revelation 12 will happen on Sept. 23, 2017.

This stellar alignment:

Virgo, with the moon at her feet, the sun shining on her, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Saturn, along with the other constellation Leo will form the 12 crowns above her head.

Jupiter moving into the area od her womb is "travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

And this star, known as the "Red Dragon":

View attachment 207821

Is due to pass very close to this alignment, and very close to earth. And when it comes close to earth, asteroids from this star will strike the planet.

All this, coincidently happens when the Jewish year of Jubilee starts. (Sept. 23, 2017)

I'm not saying it will, I'm not saying it won't.

I just have a problem with Revelation 12 being fulfilled before anything else.

Opinions?

God Bless

Till all are one.

Juneairsbanjos · Sep 17, 2017

Personally I put total faith in all that is happening at, and is coming out of, MEDJUGORJE, once a collection of five hamlets of about fifty houses now a sizable town in Bosnia Herzegovina. God, who has been speaking through the Mother of Jesus to six sears for some 36 years now, has been trying to warn the world that it is "living on borrowed time". "End Times" started to unravel at the end of the last world war and we are 56/60th away from the point of no return. It all sounds bewildering but then explore the website: Medjugorje | Place of prayer and reconcilation or better still go out there although, like holy sights, satan is attempting got destroy the place.

This stellar alignment:

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Virgo, with the moon at her feet, the sun shining on her, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Saturn, along with the other constellation Leo will form the 12 crowns above her head.

Jupiter moving into the area od her womb is "travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

And this star, known as the "Red Dragon":

View attachment 207821

Is due to pass very close to this alignment, and very close to earth. And when it comes close to earth, asteroids from this star will strike the planet.

All this, coincidently happens when the Jewish year of Jubilee starts. (Sept. 23, 2017)

I'm not saying it will, I'm not saying it won't.

I just have a problem with Revelation 12 being fulfilled before anything else.

Opinions?

God Bless

Till all are one.[/QUOTE]

Radagast said:
If you say so, it must be true.

If you just look at named stars in Leo, there are at least 11:

REGULUS (Alpha Leo)

DENEBOLA (Beta Leo)

ALGIEBA (Gamma 1 Leo)

Zosma (Delta Leo)

Ras Elased Australis (Epsilon Leo)

Adhafera (Zeta Leo)

Chort (Theta Leo)

Al Minliar al Asad (Kappa Leo)

Alterf (Lambda Leo)

Ras Elased Borealis (Mu Leo)

Subra (Omicron Leo)

Goatee · Sep 17, 2017

Juneairsbanjos said:
Personally I put total faith in all that is happening at, and is coming out of, MEDJUGORJE, once a collection of five hamlets of about fifty houses now a sizable town. God, WHO HAS BEEN speaking through the Mother of Jesus to six sears for some 36 years now, has been trying to warn the world that it is "living on borrowed time". "End Times" started to unravel at the end of the last world war and we are 56/60th away from the point of no return. When the third secret is revealed

Medjugorje is still under investigation by the church. Who knows for sure what is going on there except that it is bringing more and more people to God I guess.

Servant232 · Sep 17, 2017

Neogaia777 said:
Why do you try to determine the times of the end, or Jesus return, when scripture says that none can, isn't the point, to be ready at any time, now...?

Mat 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.

36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

1 The 5:4
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

Yeshua will return as a thief upon those who are not watching, they shall not know the hour.

But the day and hour that the heaven and earth shall pass away no one knows, and that doesn't occur until the end of the millennium.

Context Context Context

And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Luk 12:39

Luk 19:44
And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

Goatee · Sep 17, 2017

Interpretation, interpretation, interpretation....

2Timothy2:15 · Sep 17, 2017

DeaconDean said:
Did anybody see the documentary "The Sign" on DirecTV?

According to it, and several people on the documentary, the Tribulation will kick off, and a fulfillment of Revelation 12 will happen on Sept. 23, 2017.

This stellar alignment:

Virgo, with the moon at her feet, the sun shining on her, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Saturn, along with the other constellation Leo will form the 12 crowns above her head.

Jupiter moving into the area od her womb is "travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

And this star, known as the "Red Dragon":

View attachment 207821

Is due to pass very close to this alignment, and very close to earth. And when it comes close to earth, asteroids from this star will strike the planet.

All this, coincidently happens when the Jewish year of Jubilee starts. (Sept. 23, 2017)

I'm not saying it will, I'm not saying it won't.

I just have a problem with Revelation 12 being fulfilled before anything else.

Opinions?

God Bless

Till all are one.

Look up a bit about Josh Turnbow who is the writer and director of this documentary. That will tell you a lot. This reminds me a bit of when the movie Son of God came out. Totally bad doctrine, then you look up the director and find out they are new agers. Just wondering where discernment has gone in the body of Christ.

Steve Petersen · Sep 17, 2017

DeaconDean said:
Not only that, but this alignment also happens to coincide with the Jewish year of Jubilee which also starts on 9/23/17.

God Bless

Till all are one.

5778 is not a Jubilee. It is not evenly divisible by 49 or 50. On what basis are you saying it is a Jubilee?

fat wee robin · Sep 17, 2017

Radagast said:
Well, that Sun/Virgo/Moon combination occurs every year. No big deal. And I'm not sure how 10 stars in Leo plus 3 planets gives 12 crowns.

But apart from those problems, it's still nonsense.

A lovely period for creativity and positive feelings , so enjoy ,before winter sets in . :clap:

There is a sign, that is not good , as Uranus is in the sign of Mars, (aries ) as it was, in 1936 ,and it stayed in this sign for 7 years .

Yanni depp · Sep 17, 2017

I would bet, its going to be WW3 on the 23. Or full disclosure of aliens, project bluebeam or something. Or nothing visibly (and we would find out later something happened) Thats the only options i would speculate on.

On topic. Havent seen the documentary on direct tv.

Archivist · Sep 17, 2017

September 23, 2017? Don't hold your breath.

Servant232 · Sep 17, 2017

Up until about two months ago, I had not looked closely into what was being said about 9/23 of this year.

Yom Teruah ~ Begins by the sighting of the new moon in Israel, and that will occur on 9/22 this year, astronomically predicted to be visible. Stellarium

If you go by the date that was set years in advance and don't go by the sighting of the new moon, then 9/21

And .............................................. Ecc 3:15 ! ............?

Then I was inspired to look at a verse#1 for that day, to see what it was, and this is the verse that is found by calculating from the date of the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem on 8/4/70, just as YESHUA had prophesied would happen, recorded in Matthew, Mark, Luke, mentioned in John ~ By the 31102 verses in the Bible, the remainder being one of that day's verses.

First, before revealing what is the verse for 9/23/17, some examples of verses for other days in history done by the same method. Since: 1/30/15

The Greatest Recorded Earthquakes since 1900

The fifth greatest Lev 16:34 And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as YHWH commanded Moses 50

* 8/4/70 until the sixth greatest

2/27/2010 = 708414 days / 31102 ~ The Remainder is 24170

The 24170th vs. Matthew 27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest The Temple, and buildest it in three days, Save Thyself. If thou be The Son of God, come down from the cross. 6 - 7

The 10 Most Intense Atlantic Hurricanes on Record

8/4/70 until = 697616 days / 31102 verses ~ Remainder 13374

8/7/1980

5) 'Allen' - 899 millibars ~ 13, 374th vs. Job 21:18 They are as stubble before the Wind, and as chaff that the Storm carrieth away.

(This hurricane stayed at a category 5 longer than any hurricane in recorded history. It's wind strength was matched only by Camille, which also had sustained winds of 190 mph :0

6) 'Camille' - 900 millibars 8/17/1969_693610/31102 ~ 9366th vs. 1Ki 18:24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of YHWH: and HaElohim that answereth by Fire, let Him be HaElohim. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.

Fires consumed coastal communities, with the exceptions of Bay St. Louis and Waveland.

7) 'Katrina' - 902 millibars ~ 22526th vs. Oba 1:15 For the day of YHWH is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.

8/4/70 until The largest recorded solar flares

- 2) X20.0 16/08/89 (700,914 days) ~ 16670 Pro 10:13 In the lips of him that hath understanding Wisdom is found: but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.
- - 3) X17.2 28/10/03 (706,100 days) ~ 21856th vs. Dan 4:18 This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the Wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou art able; for the spirit of the holy gods is in thee.

8/4/70 until 9/23/2017 = 711,179 days

711179 / 31102 ~ Remainder = 26,935

The 26,935th vs. Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same YESHUA, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have Seen Him go into heaven.

On this page there are links to the first ten for each of these events, and the first ten of another.

Blade · Sep 17, 2017

Seen this ... I cant tell you how many years now. If its not Sept then its what.. March around there. When so much gets said that is nothing more then "speculation".. which then anything can be said. One of the people in that movie (I didnt watch it) I know of him watched him. Lives in Israel. He does not follow this Sept 23rd thing. Talked about all the things that are going on in the world right now (this was Sept 13th) wow.. so much of what he read..we can find it..but the NEWS does not report it at all.

So no judgment of the USA lol.. I mean its globe. Its just what is written Rom 8:22 "For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now." we are seeing just what Jesus said. And He added..its not the end. Sept will come and go like it did last year. Some of these people that LOVE JESUS praise GOD. Will find something bad that happen on that day or after and then tribute it to Sept 23rd.

I watched a man go into great detail about this "sign" how it was when Jesus was born and what is coming. Is it exactly the same? Anyway..it was a great sign.. we cant skip over other things that have to happen 1st. Jesus is coming.. and nothing will catch you by surprise...if you keep your eyes on Him. Only the Father knows period. For me.. Jesus nor the sweet sweet holy Spirit have EVER wondered guessed at hinted at.. they dont know. So.. if JESUS does not.. good enough for me. I am ready now.. I keep looking up.. my candle is lite.. I always have to watch that lol..

TRUST HIM. Unlike MAN fathers and mothers.. HE NEVER FAILS! He IS watching over you. Rejoice this is the best time to be alive. Share Jesus and always be ready now.. MAKE SURE ITS WRITTEN or you can be easily deceived

Beaker · Sep 17, 2017

DeaconDean said:
Did anybody see the documentary "The Sign" on DirecTV?

According to it, and several people on the documentary, the Tribulation will kick off, and a fulfillment of Revelation 12 will happen on Sept. 23, 2017.

This stellar alignment:

Virgo, with the moon at her feet, the sun shining on her, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Saturn, along with the other constellation Leo will form the 12 crowns above her head.

Jupiter moving into the area od her womb is "travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

And this star, known as the "Red Dragon":

View attachment 207821

Is due to pass very close to this alignment, and very close to earth. And when it comes close to earth, asteroids from this star will strike the planet.

All this, coincidently happens when the Jewish year of Jubilee starts. (Sept. 23, 2017)

I'm not saying it will, I'm not saying it won't.

I just have a problem with Revelation 12 being fulfilled before anything else.

Opinions?

God Bless

Till all are one.

I'll respond more on September 24th

SolomonVII · Sep 17, 2017

DeaconDean said:
I watched the documentary, and hoped it would be on for others.

But what I said earlier was quoted here:

"The "sign" in the title refers to an alignment in the sky peaking on Sept. 23, whereby Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter will be around the constellations of Virgo and Leo, together with the sun and moon. Sept. 23 is when Jupiter leaves Virgo after being there for a while."

Source

But it don't matter.

I couldn't remember everything it said, so I got this from another source.

Apologies.

God Bless

Till all are one.

I think for most of us moderns, astrology now takes a back seat to actual science when it comes to understanding the stars.
This probably was not so true in Biblical times. For example, the significance of the Three Magi demonstrate that reading the signs of astrological alignments was acceptable practice, and it was even possible to read the birth of the Savior by reading the stars.
Apparently God was able to communicate with these three through the stars, even if they were for all practical purposes outside of the "Bible belt" of the Ten Tribes, so to speak.
I did not see the documentary, but I wonder what kind of wisdom is involved in reading the Tribulation out of an astrological alignment?

There is no way of truth testing such claims.

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