As a Christian, you are part of the lost 10 tribes of Israel

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What does it matter if we're Israel or not? Why is it so awesome to be part of Israel? Well, keep reading and you will understand why this is such an important thing to know.

Now, a bit of a warning for you. If you're going to respond to this and you disagree, please, read the entire thing. This will be filled to the brim with scripture, and it's not going to be short. So, if you don't intend reading it all, just don't respond. I'm going to be diligent to give as great an explanation that I can. Don't just read the underlined and bold parts of scripture, read the whole scripture. I'm not saying take everything I'm saying with 100% blind faith, test them. Test what I'm saying to know if what I'm saying is true. This post, is specifically meant, JUST to be relying entirely on what God's word says to us. From here on out, is the explanation. This was merely the prologue.

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He made the first covenant with Israel, but who did He intend on making the new covenant with?

Jeremiah 31:31-33
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

So we see, that the new covenant that He made, was with the house of Israel, and Judah.
We also see, that He was like a husband to those that He made the first covenant with. I put in bold the fact that He was a husband to Israel under the first covenant for a reason. Keep that in your mind. Notice also, that in verse 33, He tells them that these people, He will write in their hearts and innermost parts, His Torah (or instruction, or as we call it in english, His Law).

But yet, in Duet 11:13-18, He tells those under the first covenant that they were to put His law in their hearts, because as you saw, He Himself, said He was a husband to them. And as the verse below shows, to walk away from those words which He gave them on mount Sinai, is to be following and worshipping other gods, e.g. being unfaithful as a bride is to her Husband.

Deuteronomy 11:13-18
13And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,
14That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil.
15And I will send grass in thy fields for thy cattle, that thou mayest eat and be full.
16Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them;
17And then the LORD'S wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you.
18Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

As the mark of the beast is a sign upon your hand, and between your eyes, as verse 18 shows, so is the sign that you are of the Father. Verse 13, shows us that they were to write His Torah, on their hearts, and to that His commandments were as Deuteronomy 30:11-13 tells us:

11For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
12It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
13Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
14But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

In the passage in Deuteronomy 30, God tells His bride, that what I'm commanding you, isn't hard. It's very close to you, because it's in your heart. I've already shown you so that you may know (in thy mouth) now you must accept it, and put it into action (and in thy heart).

This is why Jesus says:

Matthew 15:8
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This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

This is what He's referring to, Deuteronomy 30:14. When someone's lips say that they love God, but their actions show otherwise. It's one thing to say that you love your spouse, but it's another to show her in the way you carry out your life with her.

What does this have to do with anything? What does any of this have to do with anything?

Because: Israel the 10 northern tribes, and the two southern tribes: Judah, and Benjamin (some people say it's not Benjamin, some say it is, but this isn't important, as the whole of the southern tribes are referred to as Judah anyway) were all in covenant with God. They were His bride, but the 10 tribes "played the harlot".

They kept "playing the harlot" and whoring themselves out to other gods, and being unfaithful to God, and then they'd fall and be over taken, and be scattered among the surrounding nations, and then they'd repent, and God would be quick to bring them back. They kept doing this though, until finally, God divorced them, and let them fall, and be scattered, but biblically... they never came back. They quite literally, never once came back after the last time they were scattered, and divorced. They were to do so, before the end of times, and realize who they were so they could once again, repent, and keep His covenant once more.

Now, according to the Torah, because we were not given a certificate of divorce (something Moses had to create, because our hearts were hardened) God's Torah, tells us, that since He put us away, He, as the Bridegroom, has to die for us to remarry. This was fulfilled on the cross. He rose, and resurrected Himself, so that we would have a suitable bachelor to then remarry.

This is why Jesus says:

in Matthew 15:24
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But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Notice by the way, that the only people ever called sheep in the bible, is referring to Israel. So, all throughout the NT, considering the only scriptures they had WERE to OT, they're referring to Israel.

Right now, you are part of Israel, and are merely scattered amongst the nations. Let's look at some NT verses to point to this.

1 Peter 1:1-2
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Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia.
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Right here, we see that he's talking to the elect, which are the tribes, scattered abroad, and amidst the gentiles. Here's another one:

James 1:1
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James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Here's a verse from Paul, that proves that Jesus was fulfilling the law requiring the brides bridegroom to die so she can remarry. Since God put us away, He had to die, so we could remarry Him. Here is Paul, writing on that.

Romans 7:1-3
1Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to herhusband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

We see, in verse 1, that this chapter, is for those that know the law. Why? Because, what the rest of the chapter goes into, first off goes into it with the understanding that the reader knows the law, and second off, explains what the Torah already tells us regarding the law of marriage, and divorce.

Verse 2, shows us the gospel in a nutshell. The Torah tells us exactly what verse 2 says, and verse 3, explains, why exactly, Jesus had to die, and as it says "but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law". From what law? The law, that required her to be married to her husband. Since God put our forefathers away, we could NOT remarry. He could biblically, no longer have anything to do with us, according to His own law. So, He had to die for us, so that we could again, be reunited with Him.

Hosea 2:23
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And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou artmy people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

This verse in Hosea is so important, because it shows this. It's an event that was to take place in the future, regarding people who were NOT His, therefore meaning that it couldn't have been talking about the Israel that was alive in the time of this prophet, because they were His people.

Here we see a reference to this in the NT

1 Peter 2:9-10
9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
10Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Peter, above, was quoting Exodus 19:6

Exodus 19:6
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And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Romans 9:24-26
24Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25As he saith also in O see, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

Paul here, in Romans 9, is quoting from Hosea.

Hosea 1:4
4 And the LORD said unto him, Call his name Jezreel; for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel.

Hosea 1:6
6 And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away.

Hosea 1:9
9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.

We see here, that Paul was referencing Hosea, and that the passage he quoted, was about the lost tribes of Israel (the house of Israel, is the name given to the 10 tribes)

Jesus Himself says

John 7:33-35
33Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and then I go unto him that sent me.
34Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come. 35Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles?

Who were they referring to in verse 35? The dispersion of the house of Israel, amongst the gentiles. When this was written, there was a law (man-made) that said Jews, couldn't talk to the dispersion, or gentiles, which is why Jesus said they couldn't come.

John 10:27
27
"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;

John 10:14
14
I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me,

John 10:16
16
I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd.

Matthew 15:24
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But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

I link this verses again, because of it's importance. Why does any of this matter? Because, He tells us, that we are to be faithful to our new Bridegroom. But how are we to do that? By obeying His commands, decrees, statutes and instructions (or laws as it's translated in english)

Because, the law that is dead, is the law that caused us to be cursed and put away. Not His Holy law, because even in bringing Jesus here, He proved that His law isn't done away with, because that was Him operating in it even with Jesus being brought here, and dying. So, then, why would He play by the rules, all the way until the His own death, only to do away with them after His death? What would be the point of His death if He was going to break them after it? There'd be no point, He could've just broken it to begin with, and saved Himself the death. It was Him that was forgiving sins the whole time, several times Israel went off into unfaithfulness, and God simply forgave them, until it became so bad that He gave up, because they no longer desired to love Him. As He told them on mount Sinai, the Torah, was to be written on their hearts. The only difference between this covenant, and the old covenant, is that HE writes it on our hearts, and doesn't leave it up to US to write on our hearts. He shows us, not only that we need a savior, but that, without Him, we can't even do good at all. That quite literally, without Him, not only do we sin, but we love that sin, more than we love righteousness.

We are Israel, and as all the times before He put us away, when we were over ran by gentiles, and strangers, all we had to do, was remember our Father, repent by keeping His ways, and He forgave us and brought us back. That is what we have to do now, and it's what He's causing us to do now. To realize that we are Israel, to remember these things, and to repent by following Torah. There are things Jesus fulfilled, such as the sacrifices, and there are things we simply cannot do right now whether they require a council of Godly-ordained judges, or a physical temple, but there are plenty of things in Torah that we can keep. Such as, observing His biblical and prophetic feast days, as opposed to the holidays we observe now, that by the way, were forced on our people with the threat of death. His ways, are a sign on our hand, and between our eyes, as is the mark of the beast, whose ways do you desire? Whose ways are you searching for? Thank you for reading this. I don't desire a debate, as they will go on for ever with no end in sight, as I've continually found out and have been recently reminded of with one of my most recent posts.

Nonetheless, most of what I've shared with you today, can be found in a video of someone who is an amazing preacher and teacher. Most of this information can be found in a video on youtube called, "Passion for Truth - Identity Crisis". It's incredibly long, but if you liked reading this, or have any questions, or just have the time, watch it. It's a beautiful video, letting scripture define scripture. If you wonder why the sabbath we observe is different than the sabbath that the bible gives us, and you're not afraid to break the chains of man-made law and tradition, I urge you to look more into these things. Don't take anything I'm saying 100%, be skeptical, test these things for yourself, and look into them. I could be wrong, he could be wrong, but since I've looked at the bible from this perspective, all of the contradictions, are gone. The reason faith without works was dead, the church being separate from Israel (which isn't true), dispensationalism, and many other contradictions, they vanish when you look at it from this perspective, because it's not got anything from man on it. It's just letting scripture, define scripture. Again, you can a majority of this information, in a video from Passion for Truth Ministries called "Identity Crisis".

 

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That is what we have to do now, and it's what He's causing us to do now. To realize that we are Israel, to remember these things, and to repent by following Torah. There are things Jesus fulfilled, such as the sacrifices, and there are things we simply cannot do right now whether they require a council of Godly-ordained judges, or a physical temple, but there are plenty of things in Torah that we can keep. Such as, observing His biblical and prophetic feast days, as opposed to the holidays we observe now, that by the way, were forced on our people with the threat of death. His ways, are a sign on our hand, and between our eyes, as is the mark of the beast, whose ways do you desire?...................
This appears to be just another Law thread and should be moved to the appropriate board.

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Sabbath day worship and keeping the law

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We've had some issues with this lately. Please remember that you cannot promote the idea that the Law must be kept in order to attain salvation.

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This appears to be just another Law thread and should be moved to the appropriate board.

Sabbath and The Law
Sabbath and The Law

Sabbath day worship and keeping the law

This is a reminder of the rules. From the Statement of Purpose of this forum:

Although the Law of God is pleasing to a believer it is not a necessary requirement for salvation. (Psalms 119:174; Galatians 3:10, Galatians 5:18)

We've had some issues with this lately. Please remember that you cannot promote the idea that the Law must be kept in order to attain salvation.

The Sabbath and the Law forum is for discussing a variety of topics related to Sabbath day worship and keeping the law. All member's who participate in this forum are self-identified Christians through adherence to the Christian Forums' Statement of Faith and the Trinitarian nature of God.
It is expected that people who post in the Sabbath and the Law forum will respect all members of the Christian faith.

I never said the law must be kept in order to be saved. It's not what saves you. It is the result of salvation, not that which saves you. It's a result, and is not the reason.
 
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Also, there are many good online studies concerning the 2 houses of Israel......
The Two Houses Of Israel - Here a little, there a little - Prophecy

THE TWO HOUSES OF ISRAEL
There is a general error among most Christians and a lot of Jews regarding the identity of the children of Israel. Because of a general lack of historical understanding, most Christians believe that the Jews are ALL of the people chosen by God in the Old Testament. Additionally, many Christians believe that they belong to an unrelated group known biblically as "Gentiles." In this article, we are going to show from the Scriptures that both of these conclusions are founded on incorrect assumptions...........

John 11:48
"If-ever we may be be letting Him thus, all shall be believing in Him.
And shall be coming the Romans and they shall be taking away of Us and the Place and the Nation

[Reve 6:6/14:8]

Luke 21:24
And they shall be falling to mouth of sword and they shall be being led captive into all the nations.
And Jerusalem shall be being trodden by nations until which may be being filled times of nations.
[Reve 11:2/13:10]


Reve 13:10
If any to-captivity, into captivity is going away. If any in sword to be killed, is binding him in sword to be killed. Here is the endurance and the faith of the saints.
[Luke 21:24]
As far as the dispora of Jews from Jerusalem in ad70, that appears to be showing in Reve 13:10, which I feel Josephus is talking about when the Temple was taken out...IMHO
The Old was taken out so the New could thrive......

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

......................Of the Jews destroyed during the siege, Josephus reckons not less than ONE MILLION AND ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND, to which must be added, above TWO-HUNDRED AND THIRTY-SEVEN THOUSAND who perished in other places, and innumerable multitudes who were swept away by famine, and pestilence, and of which no calculation could be made. Not less than two thousand laid violent hands upon themselves.
Of the captives the whole was about NINETY-SEVEN THOUSAND.
 
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Also, there are many good online studies concerning the 2 houses of Israel......
The Two Houses Of Israel - Here a little, there a little - Prophecy

THE TWO HOUSES OF ISRAEL
There is a general error among most Christians and a lot of Jews regarding the identity of the children of Israel. Because of a general lack of historical understanding, most Christians believe that the Jews are ALL of the people chosen by God in the Old Testament. Additionally, many Christians believe that they belong to an unrelated group known biblically as "Gentiles." In this article, we are going to show from the Scriptures that both of these conclusions are founded on incorrect assumptions...........
I definitely believe that both of those assumptions are incorrect, as the bible tells us, that Jews are merely of the tribe of Judah, and those that place their faith on Jesus, are the lost sheep of the house of Israel. They were once gentiles, but because of Jesus, are no longer. Praise God for that.
 
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I definitely believe that both of those assumptions are incorrect, as the bible tells us, that Jews are merely of the tribe of Judah, and those that place their faith on Jesus, are the lost sheep of the house of Israel. They were once gentiles, but because of Jesus, are no longer. Praise God for that.
The House of Judah consisted of Judah, Benjamin and Levi.

Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin and that tribe is listed last in Revelation.

Reve 7: (judah)"I will praise the Lord (reuben)He has looked on me (gad)granted good fortune. (asher)Happy am I (naphtali) wrestling God is (manasseh)making me to forget. (simeon)God hears me and is (levi)joined to me. He has (Issachar)purchased me (zebulun)a dwelling. (joseph)God will add to me the (benjamin)Son of His right hand."

This commentator actually identified the "Rich Man" in this parable as Judah.

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

LUKE 16:27
"Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,
28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' "

The fact that the rich man has five brothers is a vital clue to his true symbolic identity. Judah, the progenitor of the Jews, was the son of Jacob through Leah (Gen. 29:35).
He had five full-blooded brothers: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, and Zebulun (Gen. 35:23).

While the significance of this seemingly pointless detail has been neglected by scholars throughout the centuries, you can be certain that it did not escape the notice of the Pharisees and scribes to which Yeshua was speaking. They thoroughly knew their history and were extremely proud of their heritage. Yeshua wanted those self-righteous Pharisees to know exactly who he was referring to with this parable. This detail cements the identity of the rich man as the House of Judah, the Jews!.............
 
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The House of Judah consisted of Judah, Benjamin and Levi.

Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin and that tribe is listed last in Revelation.

Reve 7: (judah)"I will praise the Lord (reuben)He has looked on me (gad)granted good fortune. (asher)Happy am I (naphtali) wrestling God is (manasseh)making me to forget. (simeon)God hears me and is (levi)joined to me. He has (Issachar)purchased me (zebulun)a dwelling. (joseph)God will add to me the (benjamin)Son of His right hand."

This commentator actually identified the "Rich Man" in this parable as Judah.

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

LUKE 16:27
"Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,
28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' "

The fact that the rich man has five brothers is a vital clue to his true symbolic identity. Judah, the progenitor of the Jews, was the son of Jacob through Leah (Gen. 29:35).
He had five full-blooded brothers: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, and Zebulun (Gen. 35:23).

While the significance of this seemingly pointless detail has been neglected by scholars throughout the centuries, you can be certain that it did not escape the notice of the Pharisees and scribes to which Yeshua was speaking. They thoroughly knew their history and were extremely proud of their heritage. Yeshua wanted those self-righteous Pharisees to know exactly who he was referring to with this parable. This detail cements the identity of the rich man as the House of Judah, the Jews!.............

Right, I'm not disputing that is the rich man's identity, but that however, does in no way disproves my OP, it does go along with what I'm saying though. It's also just a cool message in general though. I didn't really realize that before, so I definitely thank you for pointing that out brother!

It proves my point when you read the chapter from the 16th verse on,

in Luke 16:16
16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Jesus tells us that the law and the prophets were preached until John came, and John then made known what it was truly about. That which was hidden was made known and clear.

Then Luke 16:17,
17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Jesus tells us that it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one spot in the law to fail, meaning God will throw away His creation, before He goes back on His word. Then in Luke 16:18, He talks on exactly what my OP was about

Luke 16:18
18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

This is gospel summed up right here. This is the law that Jesus fulfilled, the law that made it so that since God put us (the house of Israel) away, in order for us to remarry, and reenter into His promises, He had to die so we could then remarry and not be committing adultery. Then, it goes into the things that you're talking about, and it even shows the limited understanding that the rich man has, and the reason why Jews are the enemy to the gospel for our sakes, but our brothers in faith for the Father's. Because, the Rich man's limited understanding shows that he thought that only those who were of blood could get into the promises and enter in. It shows the lack of understanding of the rich man, and even what Jews teach today, that only those by blood are Jews, when that isn't so. Exodus 12:49, Leviticus 24:22

James 1:1

1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

The reason it says the 12 tribes, was because

Ezekiel 47:23 And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger sojourneth, there shall ye give him his inheritance, saith the Lord GOD.

Because, you get to choose which tribe you want to reside in as a former gentile. He couldn't of been talking to the 10 tribes, because at this time they didn't know who the 10 were, they were searching for them, and because they still haven't come back, they haven't been brought back by God, meaning, even today, they still don't know who they are. Well, some of us do, but not everyone.
 
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Right, I'm not disputing that is the rich man's identity, but that however, does in no way disproves my OP, it does go along with what I'm saying though. It's also just a cool message in general though. I didn't really realize that before, so I definitely thank you for pointing that out brother!............................

Because, you get to choose which tribe you want to reside in as a former gentile. He couldn't of been talking to the 10 tribes, because at this time they didn't know who the 10 were, they were searching for them, and because they still haven't come back, they haven't been brought back by God, meaning, even today, they still don't know who they are. Well, some of us do, but not everyone.
I believe they will remain lost until they come to the Cross of Christ, Who redeemed them from eternal death and the grave. I really wish the Jews and non-Jew Israelites would study the book of Revelation, as it has 12 of their tribes [excluding Dan and Ephraim]

Isaiah 28:15
Because ye have said: 'We have made a covenant with death, And with Sheol we have made a provision, An overflowing scourge, when it passeth over, Doth not meet us,
Though we have made a lie our refuge, And in falsehood have been hidden.'


Hosea 13:14
"From hand of Sh@'owl I shall rescue them; from Death I shall Redeem them.
Where plagues of you Death?. Where sting of you Sheol?
Regret shall be hidden from My eyes.
[1 Corinthians 15:55/Revelation 1:18]

1 Corinthians 7:23
with a price ye were bought/hgorasqhte <59>,
become not bondservants of men;


Reve 1:18
and he who is living, and I did become dead, and behold! I am living to the ages of the ages. Amen!
And I have the keys of the hades and of the death.


Revelation 5:9
and they sing a new song, saying, `Worthy art thou to take the scroll, and to open the seals of it, because Thou wast slaughtered and didst purchase/hgorasaV <59> Us to God in Thy blood, out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation

Matt 15:24
and he answering said, 'I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.'

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I get mixed signals, I'm pretty sure you agree, but I can't tell 100%. I'm like 95% sure you do, because of the statement I'm going to reply to in the next sentence. Which is, that I do agree, both the Jews, and the non jewish Israelites need to come to Jesus, like asap. Some messed up things are happening right now, and we need have our eyes on the kingdom!
 
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I get mixed signals, I'm pretty sure you agree, but I can't tell 100%. I'm like 95% sure you do, because of the statement I'm going to reply to in the next sentence. Which is, that I do agree, both the Jews, and the non jewish Israelites need to come to Jesus, like asap. Some messed up things are happening right now, and we need have our eyes on the kingdom!
Agree. But there were a lot of messed up stuff happening back in the 1st century that are pretty weird, but they sound plausible. Have you ever read Josephus's acct of the 70ad destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple? I could harmonize this with the book of Revelation, but it would be a daunting task......

Of these 7 supernatural events that happened, Number 7 is particularly interesting because the brides and bridegrooms are mention


The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
The Destruction Of JERUSALEM

Our Lord proceeded, "And fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven." [6] - Josephus has collected the chief of these portents together, and introduces his account by a reflection on the strangeness of that infatuation, which could induce his countrymen to give credit to impostors, and unfounded reports, whilst they disregarded the divine admonitions, confirmed, as he asserts they Were, by the following extraordinary signs :

1. "A meteor, resembling a sword, [7] hung over Jerusalem during one whole year."
2. "On the eighth of the month Zanthicus, (before the feast of unleavened bread) at the ninth hour of the night, there shone round about the altar, and the circumjacent buildings of the temple, a light equal to the brightness of the day, which continued for the space of half an hour."
3. "As the High Priest were leading a heifer to the altar to be sacrificed, she brought forth a lamb, in the midst of the temple."
4. "' About the sixth hour of the night, the eastern gate of the temple was seen to open without human assistance."
5. "Soon after the feast of the Passover, in various parts of the country, before the Setting of the sun, chariots and armed men were seen in the air, passing round about Jerusalem.
6. "At the subsequent feast of Pentecost, while the priests were going, by night, into the inner, temple to perform their customary ministrations, they first felt, as they said, a shaking, accompanied by an indistinct murmuring, and afterwards voices as of a multitude, saying, in a distinct and earnest manner, "LET US DEPART HENCE."
7. As the last and most fearful omen, Josephus relates that one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a rustic of the lower class, during the Feast of Tabernacles, suddenly exclaimed in the temple, "A voice from the east a voice from the west -- a voice from the four winds- a voice against Jerusalem and the temple -- a voice against bridegrooms and brides -- a voice against the whole people !"

Jeremiah 7:
34 And I cause to cease from cities of Y@huwdah, and from streets of Y@ruwshalaim voice of elation and voice of rejoicing, voice of bridegroom, and voice of bride, that to desolation the Land shall become. [Reve 18:23]
Reve 18:
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And they cast dust upon their heads and cried-out, weeping and mourning, saying "Woe! Woe! the great City, wherein all were made rich, that had ships at sea, by reason of her riches and wealth.
That to one hour She was desolated.

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and light of a lamp shall not no be appearing in Thee still and voice of bridegroom and of bride not no should be being heard in Thee still,
that the merchants of Thee were the great ones/grandees of the land, that in the sorcery of Thee were deceived all the Nations [Jeremiah 7:34]

.........................In executing the command of Titus, relative to the demolition of Jerusalem, the Roman soldiers not only threw down the buildings, but even dug up their foundations, and so completely levelled the whole circuit of the city, that a stranger would scarcely have known that it had ever been inhabited by human being...............................

The mournful and desolate condition of Judea, at this time, is exactly described by the prophet Isaiah, in the following of his prophecy : "The cities were without inhabitant, and the houses without a man, and the land was utterly desolate, and the LORD had removed men far away, and there was a great forsaking in the midst of the land." (Isa. vi. 11, 12.)
 
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He made the first covenant with Israel, but who did He intend on making the new covenant with?

Jeremiah 31:31-33
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Jeremiah 18:1 The word that came from the Lord to 2 Jeremias, saying, Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there thou shalt hear My words. 3 So I went down to the potter’s house, and behold, he was making a vessel on the stones. 4 And the vessel which he was making with his hands fell: so he made it again another vessel, as it seemed good to him to make it. 5 And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 6 Shall I not be able, O house of Israel, to do to you as this potter? behold, as the clay of the potter are ye in My hands. 7 If I shall pronounce a decree upon a nation, or upon a kingdom, to cut them off, and to destroy them; 8 and that nation turn from all their sins, then will I repent of the evils which I purposed to do to them. 9 And if I shall pronounce a decree upon a nation and kingdom, to rebuild and to plant it; 10 and they do evil before Me, so as not to hearken to My voice, then will I repent of the good which I spoke of, to do it to them.
11 And now say to the men of Juda, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Behold, I prepare evils against you, and devise a device against you: let every one turn now from his evil way, and amend your practices. 12 And they said, We will quit ourselves like men, for we will pursue our perverse ways, and we will perform each the lusts of his evil heart.LXX

These are the two halves of the divided kingdom... Jeremiah is painstakingly clear about this division.

Jeremias 19:1 Then said the Lord to me, Go and get an earthen bottle, the work of the potter, and thou shalt bring some of the elders of the people, and of the priests; ... 3 and thou shalt say to them, Hear ye the word of the Lord, ye kings of Juda, and men of Juda, and the dwellers in Jerusalem, and they that enter in by these gates; thus saith the Lord God of Israel; Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, so that the ears of every one that hears it shall tingle. ...
10 And thou shalt break the bottle in the sight of the men that go forth with thee, 11 and thou shalt say, Thus saith the Lord, Thus will I break in pieces this people, and this city, even as an earthen vessel is broken in pieces which cannot be mended again.LXX

10-tribed-Israel gets repurposed... 2-tribed-Judah can never be whole again.

Because: Israel the 10 northern tribes, and the two southern tribes: Judah, and Benjamin (some people say it's not Benjamin, some say it is, but this isn't important, as the whole of the southern tribes are referred to as Judah anyway) were all in covenant with God.

The Reason for the Divided Kingdom

1 Kings 11:31 and he said to Jeroboam, Take to thyself ten pieces, for thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Behold, I rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give thee ten tribes. 32 Yet he shall have two tribes, for my servant David’s sake, and for the sake of Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel. 33 Because he forsook Me, and sacrificed to Astarte the abomination of the Sidonians, and to Chamos, and to the idols of Moab, and to their king the abomination of the children of Ammon, and he walked not in my ways, to do that which was right before Me, as David his father did. 34 Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand, (for I will certainly resist him all the days of his life,) for David My servant’s sake, whom I have chosen.LXX

And the Divided Kingdom is still in effect today.
What was called Israel is Israel in the New Testament.
What was called Judah/Benjamin is called Judea/Jews in the New Testament.

Notice by the way, that the only people ever called sheep in the bible, is referring to Israel. So, all throughout the NT, considering the only scriptures they had WERE to OT, they're referring to Israel.

Right now, you are part of Israel, and are merely scattered amongst the nations. Let's look at some NT verses to point to this.

The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel is literally the 10-tribes of the northern half of the Divided Kingdom. "He came unto His own and His own received Him not." John 7 tells us why Jesus went to Galilee with the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, and why He chose His 11 Galilean Apostles. He must have known Jeremiah 18. And in Matthew 21:43 the Kingdom of God is also taken from them. Isaiah 65 tells us the rest of this broken pot story.

So... in effect, saying the gentiles are Israel--which is repurposed--is dismissing the weight of Scripture that stands against it.
On the other hand, His sheep hear His voice... so, the 10 Lost Tribes have been sought and found wherever the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven has been faithfully taught and kept... in verses like these:

John 14:21 He that hath My commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth Me: and he that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father, and I will love him, and will manifest Myself to him.

Revelation 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept My word, and hast not denied My name.
 
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