The ten kings

kjv does not use the word dynasty -
niv has it three places and only in the old testament -
where niv has dynasty, kjv has house
please note that -
the roman empire had seven dynasties
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islam had ten dynasties
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just think about it

shilohsfoal said:

It's in Israel where the beast is located

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who or what is the beast?

shilohsfoal said:

Can you tell an antichrist when you see one?

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I can tell the antichrist - mohammed

The beast (#8) and the seven heads (1-7) are all destroyed in the war against "Babylon", the "sinful woman" who had tried "ride" the beast.

The ensuing ten horns "give their power & strength" to the beast, propping it up as on a sort of life support, until it is finally defeated by the Lamb.

According to a preterist interpretation,

• the scarlet beast = pagan Roman empire & red-clad legions
• the first 8 kings (7+beast) = Julio-Claudian Dynasty (Caesar/Augustus/Tiberius/Caligula/Claudius/NERO/Galba/Vitellius)
• Babylon the sinful woman = Jerusalem the anti-type of the virtuous woman (Rev 12) symbolizing the Church
• beast vs. Babylon = pagan Roman invasion of Judaea (66-73 AD) [from a Christian perspective, "bad vs. worse"]

The Jewish War of 66-73 AD toppled the Julio-Claudians from power... but 10-15 additional dynasties of pagan Roman emperors, inspired by the vision of Caesar and a sense of Rome's destiny, maintained & upheld the empire, until the time of the Christian emperor Constantine and the ascendance of Christianity, centuries later.

Daniel 7 completes the picture, with an 11th horn that "humbles" 3 others... 1 > 3 sounds like the Dominate Tetrarchy of Diocletian, who changed the calendar of Egypt, who persecuted the Christians, and who set himself over 3 other emperors (senior Augustus > Junior Augustus + 2 Caesars).

If so, then "Babylon" was destroyed in the 1st century AD, and the "beast" was overcome in the 4th century AD. The thousand year long Christian Byzantine empire fell in the 15th century AD. Since then it has been the End Time (Rev 20:7-9).

Erik Nelson said:

If so, then "Babylon" was destroyed in the 1st century AD, and the "beast" was overcome in the 4th century AD. The thousand year long Christian Byzantine empire fell in the 15th century AD. Since then it has been the End Time (Rev 20:7-9).

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close but -
the first beast was mortally wounded in the 4th century
babylon fell in the 15th century to the second beast

shilohsfoal said:

Revelation 17:14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers."

As there is much conflict on this board concerning who these ten kings are and everyone has their own opinion,can anyone answer this one question.
Why do they make war with the lamb?Using only scripture without your interpretation,show is what they are fighting for?

If you truly know who they are , you should know how they think,what they believe and especially what they are fighting for.
If you understand what is written about these ten ,then only using scripture show is the verse or verses telling us what they are fighting for.

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this sounds like a homework question from a Bible college student.

The seven nations that are in the pit are in

Ezekiel 32: (22-30) 22 Asshur is there and all her company: his graves are about him: all of them slain, fallen by the sword: 23 Whose graves are set in the sides of the pit, and her company is round about her grave: all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which caused terror in the land of the living. 24 There is Elam and all her multitude round about her grave, all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living; yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit. 25 They have set her a bed in the midst of the slain with all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword: though their terror was caused in the land of the living, yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit: he is put in the midst of them that be slain. 26 There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused their terror in the land of the living. 27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living. 28 Yea, thou shalt be broken in the midst of the uncircumcised, and shalt lie with them that are slain with the sword. 29 There is Edom, her kings, and all her princes, which with their might are laid by them that were slain by the sword: they shall lie with the uncircumcised, and with them that go down to the pit. 30 There be the princes of the north, all of them, and all the Zidonians, which are gone down with the slain; with their terror they are ashamed of their might; and they lie uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword, and bear their shame with them that go down to the pit.

The real question is when was they sent to the nether parts of the earth?

Heres a hint.

Ezekiel 31: 16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

keras said:

After the worldwide devastation of the Sixth Seal event, the nations as they are today; will be no more. It is 10 geographic regions that the OWG be formed as. Just as we see; has already been decided.

'The King of the South', seems to be a region, not an ethnic nation, like we have now. This battle shows events before the Anti-Christ takes full power.

For sure, its worldwide and Europe is just one region, excepting for the holy Land, where all the Christians will live. As proved by Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7

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I disagree with you on a lot of your ideas but have to admit we have the same view of the 10 regions. and the global scale of these events.