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Revelation 17:14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers."

As there is much conflict on this board concerning who these ten kings are and everyone has their own opinion,can anyone answer this one question.
Why do they make war with the lamb?Using only scripture without your interpretation,show is what they are fighting for?

If you truly know who they are , you should know how they think,what they believe and especially what they are fighting for.
If you understand what is written about these ten ,then only using scripture show is the verse or verses telling us what they are fighting for.
 

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If your going to claim to know who or what the beast is and claim to know who the ten are.Not only should you know what they want or what they think, you should also be able to show where in scripture why the Lord is to destroy these ten.It's all in one chapter of the bible.Im testing everyones biblical knowledge now.Here's you chance to show what you've got.
 
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Very soon, there will happen a worldwide disaster that will kill millions and basically reset our civilization. The Sixth Seal event. It will be another correction by God, on the same scale as He did in Noah's time. But this time, most will survive and they will form a One World Govt to regain order. Faithful Christians will be protected and will go to live in all of the holy Land. Isaiah 62:1-5, Romans 9:24-26

The ten Presidents or Governors, will be appointed to govern each of the ten world regions, as has already been decided. Google; ten world regions.
But as Daniel 7:23-24 and Revelation 17:12 say: they do not reign for long and a powerful and charismatic man will take over as dictator.
We see that later this dictator, now the Anti-Christ will conquer God's Christian people, Daniel 7:25, Zechariah 14:1-2, Revelation 13:7, but those who kept faithful to God, Daniel 11:32, will be taken to a place of safety on earth until Jesus Returns. Revelation 12:14
 
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Ok.Lets get back to the topic

Revelation 17:13 KJV: These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

In scripture ,there is a chapter that contains the names of ten nations who have one mind and conspire to wipe Israel off the face of the map.It is written they are attempting to take the promised land.
Can anyone show me where this chapter s in the Bible?
I thought you were asking about making war on Jesus?

The ten kings are ten leaders forthcoming in the EU, making up the end times Roman Empire, the fourth kingdom. Their original intent is not to make war on Jesus or Israel.

It is not until well into the 7 years, that the person becomes the beast - claiming to be God. The ten kings go along with his claim, and pledge all of the resources of their EU kingdom to him.

The person is king of the West, in the battles near the end of the seven years in Daniel 11- as the rest of world attacks him, because he will be funneling all of the dwindlig oil and food (due to the judgments) to his EU power base and the west.(speculation as to why they attack him), and in spite of his claim of being God - over the 3 years plus of judgments falling on the earth, he is unable to stop the judgements.

As the battles in the last parts of Daniel 11 are taking place, God having drawn all nations into the middle east - the event of the sixth seal will take place, the heavens part and there will be Jesus before the throne of God. It will send terror into the hearts of the evil men of the world.

And it will take the convincing of the beast, the false prophet, and Satan (occupying the image of the beast, that speaks) to have the kings of the earth conspire to make war on Jesus - to literally attempt to battle him - why do the heathen rage and imagine a vain thing? - Psalms 2.

They are given 45 days to assemble their armies at Armageddon, Revelation 16, and head down to Jerusalem for the final great confrontation - and their doom.

Jesus descends to earth, with the saints, and the host of heavenly angels, Michael and Gabriel, which there will be not only humans involved but fallen angels, the prince of Persia, the Prince of Greece, Abbaddon, and all of the unclean spirits.

In Revelation 19:21 the armies gathered to fight Jesus will all be destroyed.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

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And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

(cross references to Ezekiel 39:17-20)

What happens to the AoD the image of the beast, that speaks and demands worships?

Before the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire, and before the armies are destroyed - there on the temple mount - the image will be melted away, turned into ashes, and there on the temple mount will be Satan exposed for all the world to see.

Ezekiel 28:
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

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The ten kings are not kings of ten muslim countries as you are thinking. Islam will be destroyed in Ezekiel 38/39, and the 7 years in Ezekiel 39 that follow are the 7 years of Daniel 9:27.
 
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I'm not looking for opinions.Everyone has an,opinion..Im looking for someone who,knows the word of God and is able to teach the word of God and not thier own thoughts.Does anyone on this board know the names of these ten nations as they are written,in,the bible?
 
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Very soon, there will happen a worldwide disaster that will kill millions and basically reset our civilization. The Sixth Seal event. It will be another correction by God, on the same scale as He did in Noah's time. But this time, most will survive and they will form a One World Govt to regain order. Faithful Christians will be protected and will go to live in all of the holy Land. Isaiah 62:1-5, Romans 9:24-26

The ten Presidents or Governors, will be appointed to govern each of the ten world regions, as has already been decided. Google; ten world regions.
But as Daniel 7:23-24 and Revelation 17:12 say: they do not reign for long and a powerful and charismatic man will take over as dictator.
We see that later this dictator, now the Anti-Christ will conquer God's Christian people, Daniel 7:25, Zechariah 14:1-2, Revelation 13:7, but those who kept faithful to God, Daniel 11:32, will be taken to a place of safety on earth until Jesus Returns. Revelation 12:14
Keras, not going to happen that way (ten regions of the world) because the ten kings are not going to be fighting the beast or themselves - Daniel 11:40-45, there are wars that take place near the end of the 7 years, between the beast and his ten kings versus other nations of the world from the north, south, east.
 
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I'm not looking for opinions.Everyone has an,opinion..Im looking for someone who,knows the word of God and is able to teach the word of God and not thier own thoughts.Does anyone on this board know the names of these ten nations as they are written,in,the bible?
The bible doesn't say ten nations. The ten kings are leaders of the fourth kingdom. It is not Islam, not muslim countries.
 
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The bible doesn't say ten nations. The ten kings are leaders of the fourth kingdom. It is not Islam, not muslim countries.


You still,don't get it.
I'm testing your knowledge of the bible.
Im,telling you that in,the bible there is a chapter that contains the names of ten,nations who have one mind and attempt to destroy Israel and take the promised land.In that chapter it says the Lord will destroy those ten nations.
Im asking you,where is that chapter?
How well,do you know the word of God?
 
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You still,don't get it.
I'm testing your knowledge of the bible.
Im,telling you that in,the bible there is a chapter that contains the names of ten,nations who have one mind and attempt to destroy Israel and take the promised land.In that chapter it says the Lord will destroy those ten nations.
Im asking you,where is that chapter?
How well,do you know the word of God?
Psalms 83, but that list of nations are not the ten kings of Revelation 17 because in Psalms 83 they are not under one leader and they are not making war on Jesus.
 
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Keras, not going to happen that way (ten regions of the world) because the ten kings are not going to be fighting the beast or themselves - Daniel 11:40-45, there are wars that take place near the end of the 7 years, between the beast and his ten kings versus other nations of the world from the north, south, east.
No; Douggg, your stuck record of the 10 nation European Union, is simply wrong and unbiblical. Daniel 7:23 proves it will be worldwide.
Those Presidents do NOT fight the 'beast'. Revelation 17:13 says they give their power to him.
You still,don't get it.
I'm testing your knowledge of the bible.
Im,telling you that in,the bible there is a chapter that contains the names of ten,nations who have one mind and attempt to destroy Israel and take the promised land.In that chapter it says the Lord will destroy those ten nations.
Im asking you,where is that chapter?
How well,do you know the word of God?
We are not here to be examined.
Most here are familiar with Psalms 83. Those people groups mentioned in Psalms 83:6-8, are not modern nations, just an Islamic confederation, that does exist now: it is the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. Google it and see.
Psalms 83 is the prophecy about the next prophesied event to happen. It will be the Sixth Seal: the great Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath by fire from the sun, that will literally fulfil Psalms 83:13-15.
 
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No; Douggg, your stuck record of the 10 nation European Union, is simply wrong and unbiblical. Daniel 7:23 proves it will be worldwide.
Those Presidents do NOT fight the 'beast'. Revelation 17:13 says they give their power to him.
I never said ten nations, but ten leaders. In your theory you are grouping nations together as ten regions. I am thinking in similitude, but applied to the EU.

In Daniel 11, there are nations of the world that attack the beast - if the ten kings are kings over the ten regions of the world, they would be fighting against themselves, plus against the beast.
 
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I never said ten nations, but ten leaders. In your theory you are grouping nations together as ten regions. I am thinking in similitude, but applied to the EU.
After the worldwide devastation of the Sixth Seal event, the nations as they are today; will be no more. It is 10 geographic regions that the OWG be formed as. Just as we see; has already been decided.
In Daniel 11, there are nations of the world that attack the beast - if the ten kings are kings over the ten regions of the world, they would be fighting against themselves, plus against the beast.
'The King of the South', seems to be a region, not an ethnic nation, like we have now. This battle shows events before the Anti-Christ takes full power.

For sure, its worldwide and Europe is just one region, excepting for the holy Land, where all the Christians will live. As proved by Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7
 
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No; Douggg, your stuck record of the 10 nation European Union, is simply wrong and unbiblical. Daniel 7:23 proves it will be worldwide.
Those Presidents do NOT fight the 'beast'. Revelation 17:13 says they give their power to him.

We are not here to be examined.
Most here are familiar with Psalms 83. Those people groups mentioned in Psalms 83:6-8, are not modern nations, just an Islamic confederation, that does exist now: it is the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. Google it and see.
Psalms 83 is the prophecy about the next prophesied event to happen. It will be the Sixth Seal: the great Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath by fire from the sun, that will literally fulfil Psalms 83:13-15.

There is no one world order other than that of God.
God devided the nation's at bable.
You can not undo God's will.Only he can.
 
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