The tribulation will be world wide

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You are misinformed pertaining to the tribulation Jesus referred to in Mt.24:15 and 21. Review the following Chronological order of end time events:

1. The very next prophetic event to take place will be the rapture of the Church, consisting of everyone who believes in Jesus Christ as Lord, regardless of denomination, or no denomination at all, as taught by both Jesus as well as the apostle Paul. In Jn.14:2-4, 28; 1 Thes.4:13-18; 2 Thes.2:1-8; Rev.3:10 and 4:1-2. All those who died in Christ, to all those who are still alive at His coming in the clouds of the sky, for His Church, where we will all meet Jesus, from where He will take us to our Father in heaven, as He promised us in Jn.14:2-4 and 28.

2. The rapture of the Christian Church of Jesus Christ preceeds the revealing of the man of lawlessness/beast/antichrist, according to 2 Thes.2:3-4 and 7-8. Which then immediately sets off the seven years of tribulation, as recorded in Mt.24:4-31, Jesus amplification of Dan.9:27. Where the person who is all three of the "he's" in that verse, and the rider of the white horse in Rev.6:2, is revealed. All of whom are the antichrist. It is at this stage of end times chronology the 70th Week of Dan.9:27 will begin.

3. The tribulation is revealed in Jer.30:4-7, referred to as "Jacob's Trouble," and in Dan.9:27, the 70th and final week of God's decree upon the destiny of Israel. In God's revelation to the prophet Daniel, through the angel Gabriel, the 70 "Weeks" [7 years each] of years He has decreed upon the entire destiny of Israel. From the end of their 70 year exile, through the coming seven year tribulation. The person who will set it of is the antichrist, the "he" who will establish a seven year covenant/agreement with them. Dan.9:27.

Jesus amplified and confirmed Daniel's 70th and final "Week," consisting of the abomination that causes desolation, in Mt.24:15 and 21, and in the counterparts of Mk.13 and in Lk.21.

4. The fig trees have sprouted leaves, we can see for ourselves and know that summer is near. Lk.21:29. Which began with the new nation of Israel, when it was reestablished on May 14, 1948.

5. The Christian Church of Jesus Christ is called up into heaven, symbolically illustrated by the apostle John in Rev.4:1-2, confirming 2 Thes.2:3 and 7-8. As prophecied in Jn.14:2-4, 28 and 1 Thes.4:16-17, while Israel and all non-believers will go through the seven year tribulation. The Church is seen again at their marriage of the Lamb [Jesus Christ] to His Bride [The Church] in heaven, recorded in Rev.19:7-9, while the tribulation is taking place on earth.

6. Jesus will return, seven ears later, with His Church, following Him on white horses, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, which stands for the righteous acts of the saints [Verse 8 NIV]. In His Second Coming to the earth, with His angels, in His armies from heaven, in Zech.14:4-5, Mt.24:31, Jude 14, and Rev.19:14.

7. Jesus will fight the battle of Armageddon, with His armies from heaven and end it, recorded in Rev.19:11-21. And save the remnant of Israel, who then recognize Him as their Messiah, recorded in Zech.12:10, and "all Israel will be saved," recorded in Rom.11:26...

8. The antichrist and the false prophet will be thrown into the lake of fire, and the armies of the ten horns [nations] are destroyed. Rev19:17-21. Jesus prophecy in Jn.10:16 will then be fulfilled, when there will be one fold [Israel and His Church] and one Shepherd. It is at this stage of end times chronology the 70 Weeks prophecy in Dan.9:27 will end.
9..Satan is caught and thrown into the Abyss for the same 1,000 years that Jesus will reign, in His kingdom here on the earth. Rev.20:6, confirming Mt.6:9-13; Zech.6:12-13, described in Ez.40-47; Acts 1:6; 2:29-30 and 15:16.

10. The first resurrection takes place which consists of all those brought to the Lord during the tribulation by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists. They will be martyred during the tribulation, by the two beasts, the antichrist, the false prophet and the ten horns [nations] allied to them. Those who are brought to Christ by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists, in the absence of the departed Church during the tribulation, do not belong to the Christian Church [who will be raptured before the seven year tribulation begins, as addressed above]. They will be made priests of God and of Christ, and rule with Him for 1,000 years, after their resurrection, according to Rev.20:4 and 6. They will be beheaded and pay with their lives for their testimony of Jesus, by the two beasts, the antichrist, the false prophet and the ten horns [nations] allied to them..

11. The Millennial Kingdom of Christ will consist of the one body of Christ, His Church, all those who survived the tribulation, besides the resurrected martyrs, and the remnant of Israel. In numbers alone, from an estimated original 7 billion people, there will only be 2.3 billion remaining , of those who had to go through the tribulation, recorded in Zech.13:8. Life expectancy will be greatly increased. Isa.65:20 and 11:6-9.

12. Jesus 1,000 year kingdom will begin at this point, according to Rev.20:6, here on the earth, on the throne of David, in the restored kingdom of Israel, confirming Acts 1:6; 2:29-30 and 15:16. At the same time the 1,000 years Satan will be in the Abyss, according to Rev.20:1-3. Jesus prophecy in Jn.10:16 will then be fulfilled, when there will be one fold, Israel and the Church, with one Shepherd. When Jesus Millennial kingdom has ended, 1,000 years later, at the Great White Throne judgment, recorded in Rev.20:11-15. Satan will be released and go out to deceive the people and nations again in his last rebellion against God and gather a huge army who come against God's people, surrounding Jerusalem. But God will send fire and sulfur down from heaven, as He did at Sodom and Gomorrah, destroying them all, and throwing Satan into the lake of fire, forever, in Rev.20:7-10.

13. The second resurrection takes place according to Rev.20:5, that consists of all those who will be saved during the Millennial reign of Jesus here on the earth, as well as the Godless and wicked, at the Great White Throne Judgment, set up to judge them, right here on earth. The sea, death and Hades all give up their dead and will then be thrown into the lake of fire. Meaning, that all who were in the 'temporal holding tanks' of Sheol, Hades and Hell will be removed to face judgment, along with death itself, disposed of forever. For all those who participate in the second resurrection, if their name is not found in the book of life, will be thrown into the lake of fire forever. Rev.20:11-15, and Dan.12:2 and Mt.25:46 will be fulfilled.

14. The old heaven and earth will pass away, recorded in Rev.21:1 [Destroyed by fire according to 2 Pet.3:7] and God will provide an all new heaven and earth, and the new eternal city of Jerusalem will descend from heaven, 1,500 miles long and as wide as it is long and as high as it is wide, Rev.21:1-16.

15. The rest of chapters 21 and 22 allude to a description of the coming eternal city and life of all believers who will be with the Lord forever.


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This is not a universal belief among Christians, since there is no 7 year tribulation period anywhere in the Bible.
It is often produced by adding together two of the references to the 3 1/2 years in the Book of Revelation or by taking Daniel 9:27 out of its context.


Who Confirmed The Covenant?
James Lloyd
http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

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When the Antichrist confirms the covenant in Dan.9:27, it is what Qualified expositors of Biblical eschtology call the seven year tribulation. All 70 weeks of Dan.9:24-27 are seven years each. The Great Tribulation is the final 3.5 years of it. No amount of arguing will ever change those Biblical facts.


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Futurism fantasizes. History realizes.


that is more meaningless opinion, without a shred of Scriptural siupport to try verifying it by. Let ,me see you try proving it by the Scriptures!


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Those who thought they had His first coming figured out were all wrong and in my opinion those who, like you, think they have the second coming all worked out will also be wrong.


FYI, thos like you, who are full of meaningless opinion have contributed nothing but an empty wagon. Without a shred of Scriptural support to verify your claims. Prove it!


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When the Antichrist confirms the covenant in Dan.9:27, it is what Qualified expositors of Biblical eschtology call the seven year tribulation. All 70 weeks of Dan.9:24-27 are seven years each. The Great Tribulation is the final 3.5 years of it. No amount of arguing will ever change those Biblical facts.


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There is absolutely no truth in the statement that Antichrist will confirm any covenant, or that the last seven years is still future.
Who confirmed the covenant? Messiah the Prince.
Who confirmed the covenant? Jesus Christ.
  • Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
There is absolutely no reference to the tribulation being 3.5 years
    • Matthew 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
    • 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
    • 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
    • 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
    • 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
    • 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    • 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
  • Mark 13:14But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
The tribulation will be on Jerusalem and Judea, because the rest of the world would no see what was going on in that country.

Luke makes it absolutely plain
  • 20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
  • 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
  • 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
The desolation would be on Jerusalem.
 
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When the Antichrist confirms the covenant in Dan.9:27, it is what Qualified expositors of Biblical eschtology call the seven year tribulation. All 70 weeks of Dan.9:24-27 are seven years each. The Great Tribulation is the final 3.5 years of it. No amount of arguing will ever change those Biblical facts.

OK please show us from the bible (not the Scofield bible) where it says the tribulation is 3.5 years.
 
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2. The rapture of the Christian Church of Jesus Christ preceeds the revealing of the man of lawlessness/beast/antichrist, according to 2 Thes.2:3-4 and 7-8. Which then immediately sets off the seven years of tribulation, as recorded in Mt.24:4-31, Jesus amplification of Dan.9:27. Where the person who is all three of the "he's" in that verse, and the rider of the white horse in Rev.6:2, is revealed. All of whom are the antichrist. It is at this stage of end times chronology the 70th Week of Dan.9:27 will begin.

OK is that one of your 'facts'?
It is just the opposite order to what Paul says.
  • 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
  • 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
  • 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

1st falling away. Christian apostacy
2nd Man of sin revealed
3rd Our gathering to Him at the day of Christ.
 
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The person who will set it of is the antichrist, the "he" who will establish a seven year covenant/agreement with them. Dan.9:27.
Q, the first part of the seven year 70th week is not called tribulation in the bible. The person in Daniel 9:27 does not establish a seven year covenant/agreement with the Jews.

The person confirms the Mt Sinai covenant for 7 years. It is a requirement for the leader(s) of Israel, ever since the time of Moses making it a requirement in Deuteronomy 31:9-13 to do.

The person will confirm the covenant, the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 year cycle, as the person will be the leader of Israel - as the King of Israel. Being anointed the King of Israel is what makes him the Antichrist.

Okay, the 7 years begin, the Jews have embraced the person as their messiah and he has been anointed the King of Israel - AND the Jews are saying "peace and safety" because they think they have entered the messianic age.

So how can the Jews being saying peace and safety in most of the first half of the seven years be in the time of Jacob's troubles and in tribulation? The first part of the 7 years is NOT tribulation, and all the theologians who say it is - are simply wrong, because there is no evidence of tribulation taking part during that time. Just the opposite, the world will be thinking the Jews are right and have entered the messianic age.

And also the world will be thinking peace and safety because Islam will have been destroyed in Gog/Magog right before the 7 years begin.

Pre-trib, Post-trib, Mid-trib are all misnomers. They should be saying Pre-70th week, Post-70th week, Mid-70th week.
 
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1st falling away. Christian apostacy
2nd Man of sin revealed
3rd Our gathering to Him at the day of Christ.

1st falling away. Christian apostacy
2nd Man of sin revealed
3rd The Day of the Lord begins

Sometime between now and the person committing the act, revealing himself as the man of sin - the rapture will take place.

Christian removed from the world before the Day of the Lord takes place - brought on by the person's act of claiming to be God.
 
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When the Antichrist confirms the covenant in Dan.9:27, it is what Qualified expositors of Biblical eschtology call the seven year tribulation.

Based on your logic above, whoever produced the NKJV Bible must have made a tremendous error, because the scriptural reference beside of Daniel 9:27 in my NKJV Bible is Matthew 26:28.

Mat 26:28  For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. 

However, this does agree with what is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.
According to you, those who produced the Geneva Bible would not be "Qualified" either.


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From the 1599 Geneva Bible.

Daniel 9:27

And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

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Maybe you think nobody was "Qualified" before John Nelson Darby brought his Two Peoples of God doctrine to America, about the time of the Civil War.

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Maybe you think nobody was "Qualified" before John Nelson Darby brought his Two Peoples of God doctrine to America, about the time of the Civil War.

That is in the USA. In the UK Darby introduced dispensationalism to the Plymouth Brethren which he got from Edward Irving. Irving said, in his Morning Watch magazine that he first preached on it on Christmas Day 1825. Darby did not formulate his ideas till later possibly about 1841 but it could have been earlier. Philip Mauro wrote in 1923 that he was one of the early believers in dispensationalism. He also said that as he could establish the teaching came to NY either just before or just after.
 
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There is absolutely no truth in the statement that Antichrist will confirm any covenant, or that the last seven years is still future.
Who confirmed the covenant? Messiah the Prince.
Who confirmed the covenant? Jesus Christ.
  • Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
There is absolutely no reference to the tribulation being 3.5 years
    • Matthew 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
    • 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
    • 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
    • 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
    • 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
    • 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    • 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
  • Mark 13:14But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
The tribulation will be on Jerusalem and Judea, because the rest of the world would no see what was going on in that country.

Luke makes it absolutely plain
  • 20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
  • 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
  • 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
The desolation would be on Jerusalem.

There's not even supposed to BE any Antichrist. There were just "many antichrists" in Paul's day.
 
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There's not even supposed to BE any Antichrist. There were just "many antichrists" in Paul's day.

Yes and John says they "came out from among us" that is the church. They were apostate Christians.
He also said
  • 1 John 2:18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come,
 
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1st falling away. Christian apostacy
2nd Man of sin revealed
3rd The Day of the Lord begins

Sometime between now and the person committing the act, revealing himself as the man of sin - the rapture will take place.

Christian removed from the world before the Day of the Lord takes place - brought on by the person's act of claiming to be God.

Well there are several problems with that post.
1.There is nothing in the scriptures that teach that.
You say we will gather to meet the Lord after the Antichrist? How can we if we are forever with the Lord?
2 When will the saints be raised? I will leave you to answer that.
 
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There is absolutely no truth in the statement that Antichrist will confirm any covenant, or that the last seven years is still future.
Who confirmed the covenant? Messiah the Prince.
Who confirmed the covenant? Jesus Christ.
  • Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
There is absolutely no reference to the tribulation being 3.5 years
    • Matthew 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
    • 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
    • 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
    • 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
    • 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
    • 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    • 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
  • Mark 13:14But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
The tribulation will be on Jerusalem and Judea, because the rest of the world would no see what was going on in that country.

Luke makes it absolutely plain
  • 20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
  • 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
  • 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
The desolation would be on Jerusalem.


The fact of the matter is, the man of lawlessness, the beast out of the sea, in 2 Thess.2:3, 4 , 8 and Rev.13:1-2, is the three "he's" in Dan.9:27, the Antichrist, not Jesus.. You will have a very difficult time attempting to prove Jesus ever made a seven year covenant, set up an abomination of desolation in the temple of God, or stopped the sacrificing of Israel in it

The OP clearly reveals by thye Scripture, the coming tribulation will be world wide. I suggest you review it for your edification. And FYI, Scofield never referred to the seven year tribulation as only being 3.5 years. The Great Tribulation is the final 3.5 years of the seven years of it, from Dan.9:27.


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Based on your logic above, whoever produced the NKJV Bible must have made a tremendous error, because the scriptural reference beside of Daniel 9:27 in my NKJV Bible is Matthew 26:28.

Mat 26:28  For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. 

However, this does agree with what is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.
According to you, those who produced the Geneva Bible would not be "Qualified" either.


..................................................................................
From the 1599 Geneva Bible.

Daniel 9:27

And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

..................................................................

Maybe you think nobody was "Qualified" before John Nelson Darby brought his Two Peoples of God doctrine to America, about the time of the Civil War.

.


Based on your logic, the rhetoric above, you are attempting to show where the seven year covenant of Dan.9:27 is the same as the everlasting New Covenant Jesus made in Mt.26:28. They ARE NOT the same. The Antchrist is all three of the "he's" in Dan.9:27! Not Jesus as you would try having us believe.


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OK is that one of your 'facts'?
It is just the opposite order to what Paul says.
  • 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
  • 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
  • 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

1st falling away. Christian apostacy
2nd Man of sin revealed
3rd Our gathering to Him at the day of Christ.


Review the translation history of 2 Thess.2:3 in the following very carefully to learn the Scriptural truth about it:

2 Thess.2:1-8: The precise timing of the rapture of the Church:
"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the Day of the Lord [The 70th and final Week/seven year tribulation of Dan.9:27] has already come." 2 Thes.2:1-2. Which is a direct reference to 1 Thes.4:17 and the theme of Paul's entire pre-trib rapture message in 2 Thes.2:1-8. When we will be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR. [Parenthetics mine].

The "Day of the Lord" Paul refers to in vs 2, alludes to Dan.9:27, when God will intervene into the affairs of man for the last time, culminating in the second coming of Jesus to the earth. In that passage of Scripture, the Day of the Lord is triggered by the "he" who "confirms a covenant [An agreement] for one Week" [The Day of the Lord/ 70th and final Week/seven year tribulation], who is the antichrist. The second, and same "he," who stops Israel from the offerings and sacrificing in the temple of God, and the third, and same "he," who breaks his covenant in the middle of the Week [After 3.5 of the 7 year total], and sets up the abomination of desolation Jesus referred to in Mt.24:15, in His Olivet Discourse, about the sign of His second coming, and of the end of the age.

In vs 3: "Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that Day [The Day of the Lord, the 70th and final Week, the seven year tribulation] will not come, until the "apostasia" [Greek term in which the original translation was "to depart," or "departure," meaning, the rapture of the Church] occurs and the man of lawlessness [The antichrist, and all three of the "he's" in Dan.9:27] is revealed [Who triggers the Day of the Lord/ the 70th and final Week/ the seven year tribulation], the man doomed to destruction." Which reveals the "apostasia" [Departure] will take place before the antichrist is revealed, who triggers the 70th Week/seven year tribulation. Confirmed in verses 7 and 8 below.

Translation History of apostasia and discessio: By Thomas Ice, PhD.
The first seven English translations of apostasia all rendered the noun as either " departure" or " departing." They are as follows: Wycliffe Bible (1384); Tyndale Bible (1526); Coverdale Bible (1535); Cranmer Bible (1539); Breeches Bible (1576); Beza Bible (1583); Geneva Bible (1608) . This supports the notion that the word truly means " departure." In fact, Jerome' s Latin translation known as the Vulgate from around the time of 325 A.D. renders apostasia with the " word discessio, meaning ' departure.' Why was the King James Version the first to depart from the established translation of "departure" in 1611 A.D.? [It is more than likely due to overzealous RCC scribes who altered the original wording of vs 3. to accommodate their teachings of Amillenialism, which rejects both the pre-trib rapture of the Church as well as Jesus Millennial reign her on earth].

Theodore Beza, the Swiss reformer was the first to transliterate apostasia and create a new word, rather than translate it as others had done. The translators of the King James Version were the first to introduce the new rendering of apostasia as " falling away." Most English translators have followed the KJV and Beza in departing from translating apostasia as " departure." No reason was ever given.

"He [The antichrist] will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God." Vs 4. [The abomination of desolation, confirming Dan.9:27 and Mt.24:15]. See also 2 Thes.2:4.

The rapture of the Church and verse 3 confirmed:
In vs 7:
"For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so until he [The saints - Church] is taken out of the way."

The "he" who will be taken out of the way, is the one body of Christ, who bear the Holy Spirit within each of us [Eph.1:13-14], the Church of Jesus Christ. The very same as those who will participate in the "apostasia," the "departure," [the rapture] of the Church, in vs 3. Immediately following that:

In vs 8: "And then the lawless one [The antichrist] will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of His mouth and destroy by the splendor of His coming." Vs 8. [See Rev.19:17-21].


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Q, the first part of the seven year 70th week is not called tribulation in the bible. The person in Daniel 9:27 does not establish a seven year covenant/agreement with the Jews.

The person confirms the Mt Sinai covenant for 7 years. It is a requirement for the leader(s) of Israel, ever since the time of Moses making it a requirement in Deuteronomy 31:9-13 to do.

The person will confirm the covenant, the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 year cycle, as the person will be the leader of Israel - as the King of Israel. Being anointed the King of Israel is what makes him the Antichrist.

Okay, the 7 years begin, the Jews have embraced the person as their messiah and he has been anointed the King of Israel - AND the Jews are saying "peace and safety" because they think they have entered the messianic age.

So how can the Jews being saying peace and safety in most of the first half of the seven years be in the time of Jacob's troubles and in tribulation? The first part of the 7 years is NOT tribulation, and all the theologians who say it is - are simply wrong, because there is no evidence of tribulation taking part during that time. Just the opposite, the world will be thinking the Jews are right and have entered the messianic age.

And also the world will be thinking peace and safety because Islam will have been destroyed in Gog/Magog right before the 7 years begin.

Pre-trib, Post-trib, Mid-trib are all misnomers. They should be saying Pre-70th week, Post-70th week, Mid-70th week.


Show me anywhere in the Bible where the 70th week of Daniel is not called the very source for the coined phrase, tribulation, used by most every expositor of eschatology.


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