Christian thoughts about LGBT?

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My wife is a career teacher. "Gay" toddlers get picked on for their odd behavior. Yes, they are gay long before they have sex. And you'll not convince me that
toddlers from the ghetto have gay role models to follow.

Gay boys can have mannerisms that cause them not to fit well in very early. This is why so many gay men are found in theater. They learn to "act" like others even though it is not natural for them.

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LOL, this is a stereotype...
 
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Again, homosexual ACTS. Not ATTRACTION.

The acts referred to are sex outside of marriage
or multiple gender partners, perhaps at the same time.
 
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LOL, this is a stereotype...

Based on reality. My girlfriend in theater said there were no straight men in theater circles.
I was on stage crew so we didn't count.
 
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We see on the news today, little children wanting sex changes. This homosexual debate in society is now over, homosexuals have won the day and now there is no end in sight on this slippery slope. As you have correctly said, it has lead to all kinds of sexual immorality being made acceptable. A race to the bottom "if it makes you happy what can be wrong with it?" is the mind-set of most in our society today.

Polygamy and incest is also on the cards.

The moral fabric of society is truly broken. These are the last days where right will be wrong, and wrong will be right.

God bless.
I am troubled by children wanting sex changes; however it is not the worse thing in the world that could happen to someone...
 
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Based on reality. My girlfriend in theater said there were no straight men in theater circles.
I was on stage crew so we didn't count.
I'm just saying not all gay people are into theatre... some have to be in the audience LOL
 
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And again, refers to acts not orientation.
Well, it refers to not being committed to one partner. God does not
care how you act. God cares about your motives. Not being committed
to one sex partner reveals you have poor motives about intimacy.
 
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I'm just saying not all gay people are into theatre... some have to be in the audience LOL

No, what she said was there were no straight males in theater.
That was her observation. Partly after dating too many gay men in theater.
 
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inappropriate behavior with animals is being normalized, pedophilia is starting to become a talk, and zoophilia as well.

Can you document this? I'd like to see your research.
 
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Wish the comments here would deal with what the Bible actually says on the issue of homosexuality, than a lot of nonsense that is being discussed. It is a very important and serious issue, which the Bible, as God's Word, has much to say to those who will listen.
 
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homosexuality is not even in there.
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB)
 
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Wish the comments here would deal with what the Bible actually says on the issue of homosexuality, than a lot of nonsense that is being discussed. It is a very important and serious issue, which the Bible, as God's Word, has much to say to those who will listen.
This is the rub. Our interpretation of the Bible is subject to what our notions of reality are. For instance, the earth is round, not the center of the universe... some people refuse to acknowledge reality...
 
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Since gays and lesbians are born with that status of a mind (psychologically), it seems it's impossible for them to attract themselves towards the opposite gender.
Others have addressed this already, but when you assume "God makes them that way", it displays a lack of understanding on your part, and slanders God. God is perfect. He made a perfect world. Sin is the result of free will, for which God took responsibility by becoming the man Jesus Christ, who died for our sins.

To assume God makes people perverse at birth is to call God evil. He is not. There are many factors that impact us and the choices we make, but it is not a conscious design of God to have anyone born contrary to his will. Birth defects do not come from God.
 
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I personally don't support LGBT since God created man and woman for a reason. As I've learned lesbian and gay relationships are prohibited in Christianity. Since gays and lesbians are born with that status of a mind (psychologically), it seems it's impossible for them to attract themselves towards the opposite gender. I find that it's something like a disorder in them. It's not a Christian characteristic for us to reject/neglect them, or punish them for how they were born. So, what should we do to them?

We don't do anything "to" them. We let them live their lives. We pray for them. We show them love. What do you "do to" people who have committed adultery, fornication, or have had abortions, or are into inappropriate content? Same thing. It's no different. "We have all sinned and fallen short...."

However I take exception with "for how they were born." It may
may be some are born with those proclivities. However, there is no real data to support that. There is data to the contrary, though. Many factors can be present. Some people were introduced to homosexuality at an early age and "imprinted", so to speak, with that. Some have been abused by the opposite sex and seek sexual fulfillment with their own gender.

Gay people get really angry if you mention this, but there also seem to be biochemical factors, like chemicals in food. There are some frogs who have changed their gender due to run off from chemically treated corn fields, for example. There is a lot of estrogen in the drinking water due to women on birth control pills urinating into it, indirectly. And so on.

However, of course there were gay people throughout history so we know modern chemicals are not the only factor. There can also be demonic influences, of course.

Really it doesn't matter what the cause is. The cure is the same, the Savior. And we are, again, just to love them and not judge.

There are many, many people giving testimonies of having been freed from that lifestyle, easily found all over You Tube.
 
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I personally don't support LGBT since God created man and woman for a reason. As I've learned lesbian and gay relationships are prohibited in Christianity. Since gays and lesbians are born with that status of a mind (psychologically), it seems it's impossible for them to attract themselves towards the opposite gender. I find that it's something like a disorder in them. It's not a Christian characteristic for us to reject/neglect them, or punish them for how they were born. So, what should we do to them?

Do you have a source for your claim that they're "born" that way? Contrary to media hype and misrepresentations, I have yet to see a single study showing clear biological causation. There's more evidence showing alcoholism having a biological component (and even that's highly debatable).
 
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To assume God makes people perverse at birth is to call God evil. He is not. There are many factors that impact us and the choices we make, but it is not a conscious design of God to have anyone born contrary to his will. Birth defects do not come from God.

I certainly didn't choose to have SSA, It happened long before I had a choice in the matter. I wonder at time why didn't Christ protect me from molestation? Why does he and the church reject me? Why are christians so hateful about this? I'm just trying to get through life without sinning but get no help from my church or fellow believers. I have to pay out of pocket for help. It's getting up in the tens of thousands now...
 
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This is the rub. Our interpretation of the Bible is subject to what our notions of reality are. For instance, the earth is round, not the center of the universe... some people refuse to acknowledge reality...
Actually the Earth is not round but slightly off which causes a wobble in orbit known as the precessionary wobble of the Great Circle that has changed the pole star over a 2,000 year cycle. The original pole star was Thuban in the constellation Draco, and has moved through Ursa Major, Ursa Minor (Polaris today) and is on a path towards Cepheus.

To categorically say that the Earth is not the center of the universe is also not provable. The universe is too large for us to know, and since we are inside the universe we have no objective way of actually knowing. Only God is outside the universe and knows for sure.

We think that because space travel has been mathematically calculated that heliocentrici model of the universe must be true, but the same results can be mathematically calculated with a geocentric model, too.

Personally I put more stock in the Bible than the theories of men.
 
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I certainly didn't choose to have SSA, It happened long before I had a choice in the matter. I wonder at time why didn't Christ protect me from molestation? Why does he and the church reject me? Why are christians so hateful about this? I'm just trying to get through life without sinning but get no help from my church or fellow believers. I have to pay out of pocket for help. It's getting up in the tens of thousands now...
I am sorry for all you have been through. You know, honestly, you don't really need "Church people." Though good Churches have been wonderful, many people have found them cold and rejecting and also not true in their doctrines. You really need just the Savior. If people could help you, great.

But if not, HE is still there for you. (Even if people help you, it is through HIS power.) Focus on Him. The Bible says that if anyone asks for wisdom, the Father will give it freely, without finding fault, but we are not to waver. Seriously and sincerely ask for wisdom on what to do. Wait. Repeat as more areas needing wisdom come up. He WANTS to help you, but is waiting for you to truly turn to Him, from the HEART, as He is a Heart focused being.

Praying for you. Maybe also watch some You Tube vids on others who have gotten free, to build up your faith. Good for you that you are seeking understanding and, ultimately, freedom.
 
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