Question: Will babies and children of the Lost be Raptured

nonaeroterraqueous said:

He did, however, spare or judge based on familial relationships, which is what you said. There's a ton of evidence for that.

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Do not blame God, those people DID NOT take their children to that Noah's ship because they didnt believe him anyway after 120 years of warning to mankind. But Noah has faith and took his family and saved them. ITS NOT BASED ON FAMILIAL RELATION but based on FAITH to GOD.

Gen 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

vinsight4u said:

There won't be a rapture until after the great tribulation.

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Why would God rapture the people when the grief tribulation is over, antichrist is dead, the world returns to peace ? man oh man.

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Another Lazarus said:

ITS NOT BASED ON FAMILIAL RELATION but based on FAITH to GOD.

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Nope. Lot wasn't saved for being a good guy, because he certainly wasn't. I think we're well aware of his exploits. He was saved because of Abraham.

The entire family of Korah was swallowed up by the earth because of him. (Numbers 16:32)

The entire family of Achan was slaughtered because of him. (Joshua 7:1-26)

Pharaoh's son was killed because of him .(Exodus 11:5)

Yes, yes, and yes again. There's a ton of evidence in the Bible that familial relationships do matter. Noah's family was never credited with righteousness, and they were saved. The children of the sinners were never blamed for wickedness, but they died. The argument you make that the children were lost because their parents didn't take them to the ark makes God look helpless, as if he wanted to save them, but while he could somehow draw tons of animals to the ark, he just couldn't do a thing to get the children to safety. It's an extremely bad argument. God can create several trillion gallons of water out of nowhere, but he can't get some children into a boat? Nope. That argument is dead.

Major1 said:

What happens to the babies and young children when the Rapture takes place?

The parents are lost and are left, that we know. However, what about the babies of the lost?
Will they be left to go through the tribulation, and most probably die in the chaos?

Will they be Raptured as well as believers in Christ even though they have not reached the age of accountability?

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There are MANY DIVERSE TEACHINGS regarding this subject.

So what IS the TRUTH?

Romans 4:3
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.



ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE;
IF the parents are lost, so are their babies.


BUT, IF JUST ONE PARENT is counted as righteous;
1 Corinthians 7:14
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.


Believe as you will.

The so-called "Rapture" is not founded in Holy Scripture. Anywhere. Jesus returned as he promised he would circa Year 70, and is presently putting his final enemies under his feet. When that is done, the Second Coming will be complete, and the End will come, then Judgment, then Eternal Life.

nonaeroterraqueous said:

When I first read this I didn't think much of it. About an hour later, I was driving down the road and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I believe you just made an unassailable point that ends not only this discussion, but maybe a few others, also.

The fact is, Noah's Ark was not loaded with millions of children by virtue of their being under the age of accountability. That says it all. Regardless of if or when the rapture takes place, we already know where God stands on the matter, because we know exactly what he did the last time. Children and babies will not be raptured simply because they're young. It goes even further, too. Someone once told me that a person's views of the end times for the world says a lot about their views of the end times of an individual human life. There always was that age-old question of what happens to babies and children who die. Noah's Ark and the Great Flood say it all. God didn't spare, and likely won't spare anyone from his wrath simply by virtue of their age. As far as I know, he never did it anywhere in the Bible. He did, however, spare or judge based on familial relationships, which is what you said. There's a ton of evidence for that.

That's some pretty tough stuff.

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Because babies and children died in the flood does not mean they will not be saved. God was purging the planet, of man and beast and of even the land itself. No reason to think they will not be resurrected at His 2nd coming.
Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

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Major1 said:

What happens to the babies and young children when the Rapture takes place?

The parents are lost and are left, that we know. However, what about the babies of the lost?
Will they be left to go through the tribulation, and most probably die in the chaos?

Will they be Raptured as well as believers in Christ even though they have not reached the age of accountability?

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James chapter 4 verse 12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?

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Major1 said:

What happens to the babies and young children when the Rapture takes place?

The parents are lost and are left, that we know. However, what about the babies of the lost?
Will they be left to go through the tribulation, and most probably die in the chaos?

Will they be Raptured as well as believers in Christ even though they have not reached the age of accountability?

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So many people believe in the Rapture. What do you mean by the Rapture? The Rapture popularly taught these days is not Biblical in any way. Only GOD will determine those who will be saved or lost.

Major1 said:

Believe as I will........ That is your answer?

I have been around for a long time now. Let me ask you is you have ever been with or have any children who are mentally challenged. What about those with CP and Autistic.

Some of these dear sweet kids do not speak. Some have gross motor skills lack the finest skills to put even there hands together to wash them. The simplest concepts grasped by a one year old seem to be beyond some of the people.

And certainly, there is no way that they can comprehend thier need for a Savior, much less understand the words that explain that concept. Unless their brains are miraculously healed, none of them will never "confess with their mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead," and so be saved.

So, I for one can not accept the idea that God in all of HIs infinite mercy and grace and love will allow any one of those children to be damned.

I for one will believe the words given in 1 John 2:2..............
" And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world."

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As a matter of fact I worked several years directly with those challenged with physical and mental handicaps. There are children in my family with CP, and my wife teaches autistic children. But that has nothing with what Scripture is trying to relate.

YOU

AS A PARENT

ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR

your children.


It is the PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY for their children AND spouse.


1 Corinthians 7:14
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.




If the parents are sheep, the children are counted as sheep.

If the parents are goats, the children are counted as goats.


So, . . . . . .IF YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN, IF YOU LOVE YOUR SPOUSE;
for their sake's, be right with God.




" And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world."


IF WE ACCEPT HIM, He Himself IS the propitiation for our sins

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Revelation 3:8
I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.




The door is opened that the sheep might enter, but many goats refuse to enter.


Is the goats reward the same as those counted among the sheep?

Matthew 25
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.



So what is SCRIPTURE trying to say?

If you fear God;
IF YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN,
IF YOU LOVE YOUR SPOUSE;
for their sake's, be right with God every minute of the day.

1 Corinthians 7:14
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.




So yes, . . .Believe as a sheep, or don't believe as a goat, . . . .

Hence, believe as you will choose to believe.

Obviously it will be a very INDIVIDUAL one on one type THING to meet God.

Lee Stuvmen said:

There are MANY DIVERSE TEACHINGS regarding this subject.

So what IS the TRUTH?

Romans 4:3
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.



ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE;
IF the parents are lost, so are their babies.


BUT, IF JUST ONE PARENT is counted as righteous;
1 Corinthians 7:14
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.


Believe as you will.

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That does not mean that the unbelieving husband will be saved.
Do not be unevenly yoked.
Paul was addressing a problem among the Gentiles; were their marriages valid according to God and the church? And were their children legitimate or illegitimate?
Paul said that the marriage was sanctified, holy, because of the believer and therefore the children were legitimate.

dogs4thewin said:

I do not by any means claim to be right on this without a doubt, but what about when they were in the desert all died that had reached the age of 20.

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imho,
I agree and there is of coarse David and Bathsheba's son, but there is more.

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord Himself giveth to you a sign, Lo, the Virgin is conceiving, And is bringing forth a son, And hath called his name Immanuel,
Isa 7:15 Butter and honey he doth eat, When he knoweth to refuse evil, and to fix on good.
Isa 7:16 For before the youth doth know To refuse evil, and to fix on good, Forsaken is the land thou art vexed with, because of her two kings.

It's very clear that verse 15 is talking about the Messiah Jesus. However, verse 16 is not. Isaiah was instructed to bring his own son, Shearjashub, with him. This prophecy speaks of comfort to Ahaz and Judea. The sons of Rezin and Remaliah had banned together against them.
So before Isaiah's son should reach the age of discernment the land of these kings would be forsaken.

Notice that it says the exact same thing about Jesus as a youth and Isaiah's son as a youth. There is a time when they do not discern to refuse evil and fix on good. Surely if this is true of the Messiah then it is true of all children and those who will never be able to understand that they are sinning against God.