The Millennial temple built by Jesus in Zech.6:12-13

With the carrying away of the Jews into Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar, The House of David, The Throne of David, The Crown of David and the Kingdom of David were done away and not one of these has been restored nor will be restored until Jesus the Messiah returns to rule and reign for one thousand years at the Millennium Temple as described by Ezekiel.[/size]

Since AD 70, the Jews have had no temple. as predicted by Hosea the prophet in 746 BC: "For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king and without a prince, and without a sacrifice and without an ephod ...Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days." [/size]

We read in Zechariah, "Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both" (Zech 6:12-13). In several prophetical passages the Messiah is referred to as "the Branch" who will sit on the throne of David to rule the world. "And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots" (Isa 11:1). "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth" (Jer 23:5). In Luke, the angel Gabriel proclaimed, "He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end" (Luke 1:32-33).[/size]

In AD 634, the temple mount was taken over by the Muslims. In 1099, the crusaders captured it and turned the mosques into churches. Saladin returned it to Arab rule in 1187. The Jews liberated the temple mount from Jordanian control in the Six-Day War of 1967, but later returned it to the custody of the Muslim Waqf (Jordan). Today, the "Dome of the Rock" is situated near the centre of the temple mount, with the Al Aqsa Mosque at its southern end.....In April 572 B.C. during Passover (14 years after the destruction of Solomon's Temple) Ezekiel was given a detailed plan and specifications for the Temple, the place of worship during the Millennium.

The Millennial temple: "As described in Ezekiel (40:5 to 42:20), the outer dimensions of the temple complex form a square, 875 feet (500 cubits) across and in length. The temple faces east, as did the tabernacle and the temples of Solomon and of the Exile. The south, east, and north sides have an outer wall. Thirty rooms were also built on the second and third levels. The temple itself projects from inside the western wall, It has outer courts on three sides :south, east, and north, 175 feet in width. [/size]The very first features of the Millennial Temple described are the walls and gates (Ezekiel 40:5-37). The gates are complex security devices that must be passed by authorized persons only in order to enter the inner and outer courts (Ezekiel 40:5-16 20-37).[/size] [/size]Numerous cherubim adorn the temple (Ezekiel 41:17-20, 25). In the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:24) a purpose of cherubim was to keep persons out of unauthorized areas.
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For the rest of the outstanding article: http://www.biblestudent.com/bible.studies.htm/sg41.htm



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BABerean2 said:

If you want to understand the original site of the 2nd temple, based on the resent research of lsraeli archeologist Eli Shukron, watch the presentation below by Robert Cornuke.

The recent book "Temple" by Robert Cornuke is an excellent source of information on this topic.

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New Evidence for the Site of the Temple in Jerusalem

A new and accurate evaluation is essential regarding the site of the former Temples in Jerusalem. Neither the Dome of the Rock near the center of the Haram esh-Sharif in Jerusalem, nor the Al Aqsa Mosque occupying the southern side of the Haram (nor ANY area within the four walls of that Haram) was the real spot in Jerusalem where the holy Temples of God were located. Biblical and literary accounts dogmatically place the site of all the Temples over the Gihon Spring just north of the ancient City of David (Zion) and on the southeastern ridge of Jerusalem. All the present antagonists fighting in Jerusalem over the Temple site are warring over (and for) the wrong place. They need to turn their swords and guns into plowshares.

The first source to discover the true site of the Temples in Jerusalem is to read the biblical descriptions about the location of Mount Zion because in the Holy Scriptures the term "Mount Zion" in many contexts is synonymous with the site of the Temples. Any modern map of Jerusalem will correctly indicate the true location of the original Mount Zion (also called the City of David). Zion was situated at the southern end of the southeastern ridge of Jerusalem. This is the section of the city that Josephus (the Jewish historian of the first century) called "the Lower City." The fact that the original "Zion" was described by Josephus as "the Lower City" became a geographical enigma to early scholars since the Bible itself consistently described "Zion" as a high and eminent place. How could something "high" be legitimately called "low"? 1 This misunderstanding about the former eminence of the southeast ridge was the first confusion that caused even religious authorities to lose the true site of "Mount Zion" and also the location of the Temples. But historical and biblical evidence reviewed and analyzed between the years 1875 and 1885 C.E. 2 finally indicated that the southeast ridge was truly the original Zion.

It was the indefatigable efforts of W.F.Birch in England with his numerous articles in the Palestine Exploration Fund Quarterly over that decade (along with the discovery in 1880 C.E. of the Hezekiahan inscription about the construction of the tunnel from the Gihon Spring to the southern end of the southeast ridge) that finally settled the controversy over the true location of "Zion." It was then determined by the scholarly world that the former designation of the southwest hill in Jerusalem as "Zion" (what was written in Josephus as the "City of David" being located in the "Upper City") was not the correct evaluation for the original site of "Zion." So, the world finally learned (correctly so) that the southeast ridge was the actual site of "Mount Zion" (the true City of David) and that Jerusalem was built in ancient times around and over the Gihon Spring in order to have water from the only spring within a radius of five miles of the city. This correction was a major step in the right direction in restoring true geographical parameters to Jerusalem. Unfortunately, when the scholars properly returned "Mount Zion" to the southeast ridge, the Temple location was not considered an issue in the matter. They continued to accept that somewhere within the Haram esh-Sharif was the Temple site. This was in spite of the fact that many texts in the Holy Scriptures identified "Zion" as equivalent to the "Temple." And, the Bible even indicated that the Temple was abutting to the northern side of the "City of David." This should have been a significant clue to the nineteenth century scholars that the original Temples had to be positioned very near the "City of David." on the southeast ridge, but those historians failed to make the needed correction. They retained the site of the Temple as being about 1000 feet to the north of the Gihon Spring and that it was once located within the confines of the Haram esh-Sharif. This region had become the popular Temple site since the period of the Crusades (by Christian, Muslim and Jewish authorities). 3 The actual location of all the Temples, however, was over the Gihon Spring immediately to the north of (and abutting to) the City of David. When the Temples are rightly placed at that site, the biblical and historical accounts about "Mount Zion" being equivalent to the "Temple Mount" consistently make sense.

The Importance of the Gihon Spring
The Gihon Spring is the only spring within the city limits of Jerusalem. We have the eyewitness account of a person from Egypt named Aristeas who viewed the Temple in about 285 B.C.E. He stated quite categorically that the Temple was located over an inexhaustible spring that welled up within the interior part of the Temple. 4 About 400 years later the Roman historian Tacitus gave another reference that the Temple at Jerusalem had within its precincts a natural spring of water that issued from its interior. 5 These two references are describing the Gihon Spring (the sole spring of water in Jerusalem). It was because of the strategic location of this single spring that the original Canaanite cities of "Migdol Edar" and "Jebus" were built over and around that water source before the time of King David. That sole water source was the only reason for the existence of a city being built at that spot.

The Gihon Spring is located even today at the base of what was called the "Ophel" (a swelling of the earth in the form of a small mountain dome) once situated just to the north and abutting to "Mount Zion" (the City of David). The Ophel Mound was close to the City of David. David soon began to fill in the area between the two summits with dirt and stones (calling it the Millo or "fill in") to make a single high level area on which to build his city and after his death the Temple. 6 David’s son Solomon completed the "fill in" between the two summits and called that earthen and rock bridge the Millo. 7 Solomon then built the Temple on the Ophel Mound directly above the Gihon Spring. This Ophel region became known as a northern extension of "Zion." This made the Temple so close to the City of David (where the citadel or akra was located) that Aristeas said a person could look northward from the top of the City of David and could easily witness all priestly activities within the Temple precincts. 8 The area of the Dome of the Rock, however, is 1000 feet north of the original City of David and is much too far away for anyone to look down into the courts of the Temple as Aristeas dogmatically stated one could. Also, there has never been a natural water spring within the Haram esh-Sharif. That fact alone disqualifies the area around the Dome of the Rock from being the site of the former Temples.

The Ark of the Covenant and the Gihon Spring
Most people have not noticed an important geographical indication in the Scriptures. When David took the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem he made a special tent (tabernacle) for it and pitched it over the Gihon Spring. 9 For the next 27 years of David’s reign (and for the first eleven years of Solomon – that is, for 38 years) the Ark remained in this particular tent at and over the Gihon Spring. That is where Solomon was crowned king. 10 This led the Jewish authorities to demand that all later kings of Judah be crowned at a spring. "Our Rabbis taught: Kings are anointed only by the site of a spring." 11 As an example, when Joash was made king, the Scriptures show his crowning was in the Temple itself beside the Altar of Burnt Offering where the laver of Solomon was positioned to provide spring water from the Gihon Spring located underneath the Temple platform. 12 So, Joash (like Solomon) was crowned next to the Gihon Spring. Indeed, the Psalms show consistently that the Temples (called "God’s Houses") had to have spring waters emerging from their interiors. Notice Psalm 87:1-3 and 7.

"His [God’s] foundation is in the holy mountain. The Lord loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. The singers as the players on instruments shall be there [in the Temple]: ALL MY SPRINGS ARE IN THEE [in the Temple]."

The fact that the Psalmist stated that "ALL MY [God’s] SPRINGS" ("springs," plural) were located in Zion (NOT anywhere else) and though the Gihon is only one spring is no problem because the single Gihon is even called in the Scriptures "springs" (plural). 13 The fact that "one spring" is pluralized (if not an idiomatic usage) can be accounted for because of the peculiar manner in which the Gihon produces its waters. Though it is a perennial spring, it was in the past a karst-type of spring that thrusts out its water as much as five times a day in the springtime when water is plentiful (with intervals when there is no water at all). Thus, the Gihon was at first a siphon type of spring that gushes forth intermittently. The word "Gihon" means "to gush." In the dry season the flow may occur a few minutes once a day. This oscillating effect of the Gihon could be a reason the ancients called this single spring with the plural word "springs." Over the centuries the waters have lessened in quantity output and have assumed more of a constant flow.

Whatever the case, Aristeas and Tacitus both stated that the Temple of Jerusalem had an inexhaustible spring within its interior and the Gihon is the only spring in Jerusalem and the Scriptures affirm it. This spring water is mentioned in numerous ways throughout the Psalms as the "waters of salvation" that come from the Throne or House of God. 14 Spring waters were an essential part of Temple requirements and water springs are to accompany future Temples that are to be built. 15 And since there was only ONE SPRING in the Jerusalem area, all the Temples of God had to be constructed over that single spring associated with the southeast ridge. The Haram esh-Sharif region (though it has 37 cisterns — much inferior waters for ritualistic purposes) has NO SPRINGS and there is not the slightest historical or geological evidence that it ever had a natural spring! 16

The Temple Was Situated in the Center of Early Jerusalem on the Southeast Ridge
There is another simple way of showing the location of the original Temples. Josephus said that the "Lower City" which was once the site of the elevated Citadel (called the Akra or the City of David) was on a ridge shaped like a crescent moon. 17 That is, when one observed this ridge from the Mount of Olives, it appeared "crescent-shaped" in a north to south view and its "horns" pointed toward the Kidron Valley. The northern "horn" would have been near the present southern wall of the Haram esh-Sharif and the southern "horn" just north of the confluence of the Valley of Hinnom. The exact center of this "crescent-shaped" ridge would have been at the Ophel Mound directly over the Gihon Spring. Remarkably, we have an eyewitness account by Hecateus of Abdera written near the time of Alexander the Great that informs us that the Temple was located "nearly in the center of the city." 18 Coupled with this observation, we have other eyewitnesses in the Holy Scriptures telling us the same thing. Note, for example, Psalm 116:18,19 where it plainly states the Temple was located in the center of Jerusalem (NOT in the extreme north part of early Jerusalem where the Haram esh-Sharif is located).

"I will pay my vows unto the Lord now in the presence of all his people, in the courts of the Lord’s house [within the Temple], in the midst [center] of thee, O Jerusalem


There is much more to the article than possible to post here. See the link for the rest of the article, by Earnest L. Martin, PhD.


Quasar92





Source: http://askelm.com/temple/t001211.htm

ProtectionET said:

Not 500 cubits, but 520 cubits - if you measure the inner area of the complex inside the wall. This length is not mentioned in the prophecy of Ezekiel, the size of 520 is obtained after matching many other dimensions of the Temple.

There, in the prophecy, another size of 500 to 500 reeds is indicated, which is 3000 cubits or 1440 meters. This is the size of the entire space around the temple complex and around the mountain, on the southern slope of which the Temple will be built. This space of 1440x1440 meters is also fenced with a wall, like the temple complex, which is in the center of this square.

Now when he had finished measuring the inner house, he brought me out by the way of the gate which faced toward the east and measured it all around.
He measured on the east side with the measuring reed five hundred reeds by the measuring reed.
He measured on the north side five hundred reeds by the measuring reed.
On the south side he measured five hundred reeds with the measuring reed.
He turned to the west side and measured five hundred reeds with the measuring reed.
He measured it on the four sides; it had a wall all around, the length five hundred and the width five hundred, to divide between the holy and the profane.

(Ezekiel 42:15-20)

This is one of the fundamental reasons why Ezekiel's Temple can never be built in Jerusalem.

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THERE WILL BE TWO MORE TEMPLES BUILT IN ISRAEL

The tribulation temple:
Matthew 24:15 - When you see the “abomination of desolation,” spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place…
2 Thessalonians 2:4 - "...so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God"
Revelation 11:1 - "...Go and measure the temple of God and the alter..."

The Millennial temple:

Ezekiel 43:7 - "...this is the place of my throne...This is where I will live among the Israelites forever."

Ezekiel 43:27 - …your priests will your burnt offerings and peace offerings on the altar, and I will accept you, declares the Lord.

Zechariah 6:12 - Here is the Man whose name is the Branch, and he will…build the temple of the Lord.
At the present time there is no temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem,
the location of both the first and second Jewish Temples. Instead, two
Muslim shrines, The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, stand on
the Temple Mount. Meantime, the Jewish people to consider the Temple
Mount to be the most sacred place for Jews in all the world. No wonder
the Temple Mount is a political powder keg and must be part of any
formula for peace in the Middle East!

According to the Bible, a temple will once again stand on the Temple
Mount. How and when the Temple Mount will be available for a future
temple remains to be seen. Biblical prophecy “buffs” have proposed all
kinds of potential scenarios for how all of this could take
place—everything from earthquakes to explosives to the collapse of the
Temple Mount platform!

Some well-meaning Christians have felt that the biblical predictions of a
future Temple should be spiritualized, saying that these prophecies
refer to the Church or to the individual Christian. Indeed, 1
Corinthians 3:16 makes it quite clear that the Church, as the body of
Christ, is the spiritual temple of the Holy Spirit. And in 1 Corinthians
6:19 we are taught that the physical body of every individual believer
is to be honored and kept clean, because it is the temple of the Holy
Spirit. But these wonderful New Testament truths do not alter the
biblical predictions of a literal future Temple in Jerusalem.

The question of a future Temple gets more complicated when we realize
that the Bible teaches that two temples are yet to stand on the Temple
Mount in the future. First will come a Tribulation Temple, followed by a
Millennium Temple which will be built when the Lord returns and sets up
His kingdom on this earth. Let's look at the Scriptures dealing with
these two future temples.


Here: Israel's Third and Fourth Temples

Here: http://sonstoglory.com/ThirdTempleEzeki ... Temple.htm [No tribulation temple shown]


Quasar92

ProtectionET said:

Not 500 cubits, but 520 cubits - if you measure the inner area of the complex inside the wall. This length is not mentioned in the prophecy of Ezekiel, the size of 520 is obtained after matching many other dimensions of the Temple.

There, in the prophecy, another size of 500 to 500 reeds is indicated, which is 3000 cubits or 1440 meters. This is the size of the entire space around the temple complex and around the mountain, on the southern slope of which the Temple will be built. This space of 1440x1440 meters is also fenced with a wall, like the temple complex, which is in the center of this square.

Now when he had finished measuring the inner house, he brought me out by the way of the gate which faced toward the east and measured it all around.
He measured on the east side with the measuring reed five hundred reeds by the measuring reed.
He measured on the north side five hundred reeds by the measuring reed.
On the south side he measured five hundred reeds with the measuring reed.
He turned to the west side and measured five hundred reeds with the measuring reed.
He measured it on the four sides; it had a wall all around, the length five hundred and the width five hundred, to divide between the holy and the profane.

(Ezekiel 42:15-20)

This is one of the fundamental reasons why Ezekiel's Temple can never be built in Jerusalem.

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In the four posts I have written on the temples, sources for the dimensions are reliable.

The Fourth Temple (Millennial Temple)

The Temple of Ezekiel by Lambert Dolphin - This author believes that the third temple will be built by the Jews prior to Christ returning and in the earthquakes associated with His return in glory, it will be destroyed and this fourth temple will be built to Ezekiel’s specifications. This would make sense since the size of this temple described in Ezekiel would definitely include what is now the outer court plus more. Ezekiel 45:1-4 speaks of a holy portion of the land, that will contain the sanctuary and most holy place. This would imply the location being North of the Temple Mount. Ezekiel 48:8

Most Orthodox Jews don’t believe the third temple will be built by Messiah.

A great earthquake is associated with Christ’s arrival when “Every valley shall be lifted up, and every mountain and hill be made low; the uneven ground shall become level, and the rough places a plain.” and “a great earthquake such as had never been since men were on the earth, so great was that earthquake. The great city [Jerusalem] was split into three parts...” (If the 3rd temple is there, how can it stand through all this?)

The prophet Ezekiel (Ezekiel 40-48) describes in great detail a temple in Israel that is much too large to fit on the present Temple Mount site. The Temple of Ezekiel proper measures about 875 feet square, and it sits in the middle of a large consecrated area (See inset in diagram below). Ezekiel’s temple is also very different in many details from any previous temples that have existed in Israel (or elsewhere). Therefore most Bible scholars believe there will one day exist in the Holy Land a Fourth or “Millennial” Temple.

Ezekiel also describes the reapportionment of the land in specific lots during the millennial kingdom. The temple and the temple district are not part of the rebuilt city of Jerusalem according to the details of this reapportionment. Note that the Temple area will be located to the North of rebuilt Jerusalem.

I have an additional point to add about the millennial temple. Ezekiel 40-47describes in extreme detail the exact measurements and descriptions of this temple. Ezekiel was written in the Babylonian captivity, 591 BC - 571 BC. Solomon’s temple was destroyed in 586 BC. More specifically, Ezekiel tells us just before his visions of the temple he describes when it was...


For the complete article: http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Bible ... eMount.htm


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BABerean2 said:

If we could come to understand the type of stones in this temple, then maybe Ezekiel's temple can be understood through the viewpoint of the New Testament.


Mat 3:9　 and do not think to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.　



1Pe 2:4　 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious,　
1Pe 2:5　 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.　
1Pe 2:6　 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHIEF CORNERSTONE, ELECT, PRECIOUS, AND HE WHO BELIEVES ON HIM WILL BY NO MEANS BE PUT TO SHAME."　
1Pe 2:7　 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED HAS BECOME THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE,"　
1Pe 2:8　 and "A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE." They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.　
1Pe 2:9　 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;　
1Pe 2:10　 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.



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The difference in the dimensions of the Millennial temple as compared with the two previous ones:

There is a vast difference between the Temple described in Ezekiel 40-47, and that of the other Temples. For example, Temple researcher and archeologist Dr. Randall Price highlights the vast grandeur of Ezekiel's Temple compared to the others. " One of the problems for many who seek to interpret Ezekiel's vision of the Temple literally is the problem of the immense size of the building (compared to the sizes of the First and Second Temples). According to Ezekiel's text, the millennial city of Jerusalem and the Temple will together encompass a 2,500 square-mile area. The portion reserved for the priests and Levites is some 50 miles, while the Temple courts will be one mile square. These dimensions are larger than those of the modern State of Israel." (Randall Price, The Temple and Bible Prophecy, p. 531).

The vast size of the temple has led some to interpret the Temple spiritually since the current physical landscape cannot hold the structures. However, God's work during the Great Tribulation provides ample descriptions of physical changes to the earth and the Temple proper will sit higher than any structure around. That currently is not the case, so the mountains surrounding the temple mount will be split (Zech. 13:4) and the Temple mount will rise (Zech. 14:10).l

Quasar92

ProtectionET said:

Actually, the Apostle Paul called the Temple of us believers in Jesus Christ. It is this same word, "naos" in Greek, that is the place where the lawless man must sit. Why are you waiting for the Antichrist in the Jewish Temple and do not think that the antichrist can sneak into the hearts of most Christians in this world?

Do you know the name of the beast-666? This name, according to the Bible, "euporia" ("prosperity" - NASB)

ευπορια
5 + 400 + 80 + 70 + 100 +10 + 1 = 666

"... you know that from this craft is dependent your Prosperity". (Acts 19:25)
compare with "If from human motives I fought with wild beasts at Ephesus..." (1st Corinthians 15:32)

The danger is not the occupation of the building by the devil, the danger for us is the occupation of our hearts by mammon, the desire for prosperity in today's world.

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According to the Bible, the man of lawlessness/Antichrist will sit in the tribulation [3rd] temple, as recorded in 2 Thess.2:4:

4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."

Let me see how you obtain the number 666 from Rev.13:18, that must come by the numbers from his name. What you have posted does not hit the mark.


Quasar92

Quasar92 said:

According to the Bible, the man of lawlessness/Antichrist will sit in the tribulation [3rd] temple, as recorded in 2 Thess.2:4:

4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."

Let me see how you obtain the number 666 from Rev.13:18, that must come by the numbers from his name. What you have posted does not hit the mark.


Quasar92

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FOR EXAMPLE:

Is the Antichrist and Number 666 in Hebrew Nero(n)?

THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST in Rev.13:18:

During Roman occupation it was illegal for citizens to criticise the Roman leadership. If the Jews wanted to criticize, they would have to invent a code language. Babylon for instance was the code for the Roman Empire. The harlot of Babylon would be the name for the Caesar. The heads of the beast would be representative of the power structure of the Roman Empire.

666 would refer to Nero Caesar. In the Hebrew Art of Gematria, every letter has a numeric value. If you convert Nero Caesar to Hebrew and convert it to Gematria you will get the number 666. The Letter N in Hebrew has a value of 50. When you convert Nero in Hebrew, it would be Neron, but some jews would say Nero, meaning it could be 616 or 666. Old manuscripts of the book of Revelations also have 616 instead of 666. Again, this need to use numbers instead of names was used in order to avoid directly criticizing the political establishment for fear of being arrested.
If you want a further analysis read the chapter on Revelations in Bart D Ehrman's book: "A historical introduction into early christian writings". Professor Ehrman teaches at the university of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. He is a textual critic of early Christian Writings.

SO TO HEBREW GEMMATRIA WE MUST TURN IF WE ARE TO MAKE SENSE OF THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST BEING THE NUMBER OF A MAN...


If we use a Hebrew Aramaic Gemmatrial system (where each Hebrew Letter has a corresponding NUMBER attached) the system works like this:

ALEPH =1 = (' )
BETH =2 =B
GIMMEL =3 =G
DALED =4 =D
HEH =5 =H
VAV =6 =V and O
TSAYIN =7 = Z
CHET =8 = CH
TET =9 = T
YUD =10 = Y or I
KAPH =20 = K
LAMED =30 = L
MEM =40 = M
NUN =50 = N
SAMEK =60 = S
Q'AYIN =70 = 'Q
PHE =80 = F
TSADEH = 90 = TZ
QUPH =100 = Q or K or hard C
RESH =200 = R
SHIN/SHIN =300 = S or SH
TAV =400 = T or TH

Since the Apocalypse of Yohanon the Elder (Book of Revelation) has TWO competing gemmatria for the "name of the beast", and was written during the 1st Jewish War against Rome (AD 66-72) the correct individual would presumably have to fit both 616 and 666 found in the 2 competing manuscript families for this marginal insertion...

The Roman Emperor NERO fits the bill nicely (he was the infamous sadistic but "Divine" Emperor-Caesar of Rome in AD 66 when the Revolt in Judaea broke out and used to burn Jews (i.e. Jewish Messianic Christians) in Rome in his gardens by dipping them in tar so they'd be able to light up the courtyard better!)

The Emperor Nero's hidden "gemmatrial" (i.e. Kaballistic-numerological) name in Hebrew Letters (with the letter VAV used for LONG O) would have been either written in Hebrew letters as: N R O N Q S R (=666, add them up) = this is the preferred version as spoken by the Greeks or else as: N R O Q S R (i.e. 616).

NERO was probably the original intent of the writer, but the "Book of Revelation"was re-written so many times in its long literary history, (e.g. in 96 AD (re-edited) with another Emperor (Nero-Domitian) in mind, and the text was applied to every succeeding generation where "persecution of the Elect" was in effect.)

Despite the "rhetoric of hope" for the "Elect" in the Book of Revelation which was meant to strengthen the resolve of those fighting the "Beast" contrary to the hopes of the writer, Jerusalem did not descend from the sky as promised, and 900,000 Palestinian Jews lost their lives in a war which, according to Josephus, should not have been ever fought in the first place...

From: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread80914/pg1

From another source:

In Roman times, the language used was Latin, and Nero was "Nero" ! That is his latin name! Also, in Italian, the name is "Nero"! Many of the romance languages developed from Latin - Italian, French, Spanish. In Greek and in Hebrew, Nero was Neron

When Nero Caesar's name is transliterated into Hebrew, which a first-century Jew would probably have done, he would have gotten Neron Kesar or simply nrwn qsr, since Hebrew has no letters to represent vowels. "It has been documented by archaeological finds that a first century Hebrew spelling of Nero's name provides us with precisely the value of 666. Jastrow's lexicon of the Talmud contains this very spelling."5 When we take the letters of Nero's name and spell them in Hebrew, we get the following numeric values: n=50, r=200, w=6, n=50, q=100, s=60, r=200 = 666. "Every Jewish reader, of course, saw that the Beast was a symbol of Nero. And both Jews and Christians regarded Nero as also having close affinities with the serpent or dragon. . . . The Apostle writing as a Hebrew, was evidently thinking as a Hebrew. . . . Accordingly, the Jewish Christian would have tried the name as he thought of the name - that is in Hebrew letters. And the moment that he did this the secret stood revealed. No Jew ever thought of Nero except as "Neron Kesar."6

The fragment supports the reading of some Greek New Testament manuscripts that read 616 instead of 666. Why would someone making a copy of the Revelation scroll make such a number change? "Perhaps the change was intentional, seeing that the Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (nrwn qsr) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (nrw qsr) is equivalent to 616." A Latin copyist might have thought that 666 was an error because Nero Caesar did not add up to 666 when transliterated into Latin. He then changed 666 to 616 to conform to the Latin rendering since it was generally accepted that Nero was the Beast. In either case, a Hebrew transliteration nets 666, while a Latin spelling nets 616. Nero was the "man" and either 666 or 616 was his number.

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ProtectionET said:

1. The beast of Revelation is not human. The beast, whose number is 666 is the world system, the whole civilization that arose on the basis of Adam's sin: on the basis of uncontrolled devouring of the fruit of the tree of Knowledge stolen from God.

2. Antichrist is the "image of the beast," according to Revelation. Analogy: Jesus is "the image of God," and Antichrist is the "image of the Beast." If God is "subtracted" from humanity, then the beast remains, animal instincts that control the mind of this terrible creature, capable of destroying all life on its native planet.

3. When Ezekiel's Temple is built, the saints of the nations gather near this Temple, because it is a sign of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, a "lightning" that is visible to everyone and everywhere. In the rest of the world there remains the beast. The head of the world at that time will be the Antichrist, because the whole world will be in opposition to the saints gathered in Israel.

4. The second beast that makes the world worship the first beast is that part of religion that actively supports the current political system of the world. The goal of today's world system is prosperity. This is the name of the beast, which is mentioned in the Bible 1 time (in Greek), in the book of the Acts of the Apostles.

5. Beast No. 1 from the Revelation of John has the features of 4 beasts from the book of the prophet Daniel. These are 4 world religions: the "lion" - Judaism, the "bear" - Islam, the "leopard" - Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism and Shintoism, the "terrible beast" is the Christian religion (meaning official religion serving empires, not evangelical). But in the Revelation, there are no more 4 religions, but one world, one civilization of sin, uniting the descendants of different religions. Therefore, their essence is one and the desire is one, this is one beast: the adherents of prosperity are united in one terrible body, into which the devil comes.

6. There is a "seal of God" - this is the Holy Spirit. And there is a "seal of the Beast" - this is the identification in the world: passport, tax number, etc.

7. "144000" are not people, but first-borns. The very first firstborn received the "seal of God" on the Feast of Shavuot in Jerusalem in the year of the resurrection of Yeshua. Two leavened breads. Leavened - because people in the congregations of believers have sins (leaven). Another first-born, mentioned in Bibilia at the time of receiving the "seal of God" was a meeting in the house of centurion Cornelius, a congregation of pagans.

The total number of such firstborns will be 144,000 thousand. This is the first-born churches.

8. "Two witnesses" are "two olive trees" from the 11th chapter of the Epistle to the Romans. These are faithful Jews and faithful pagans. These are the two wands in Ezekiel's hand from chapter 37. "Ephraim", "Joseph" - Christians, "Judas" - the current Jews. Jesus Christ at the Second Coming will unite them into one people, into one whole. It will be in Ezekiel's Temple. Therefore, there are 30 buildings on the platform: 6 for the Levites (along the western wall, fenced with 50x100 cubits), and the remaining 24 symbolize the 12 tribes of earthly Israel and the 12 tribes of heavenly Israel united in One Body.

9. Two witnesses will become one people of God. Therefore, there are no two pillars in Ezekiel's Temple, but there are only two ends of the wall that opens out to the right and left of the entrance.


Sorry, I translate using Google's translation, there may be bloopers.

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The red wall on the right and the left - so the two pillars were transformed. There are no two Israelites - Christians and Jews, there is one people of God.

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The scheme of the temple complex of the Third Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel.

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You labor under false pretenses. The beast out of the sea, the Antichrist,is a man. The very same person as the man of lawlessness in 2 Thess.2:3, 4 and 8 Review the following: The beast out of the earth is the False prophet, and also a man. Review the following Scripture:

The Beast out of the Sea

1The dragona stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.b

9Whoever has ears, let them hear.

10“If anyone is to go into captivity,

into captivity they will go.

If anyone is to be killedc with the sword,

with the sword they will be killed.”d

This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.

The Beast out of the Earth

11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.13And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.e That number is 666.


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