Is America the beast from the land (Rev. 13)?

Hal A Peno said:

You posted a news article. Let's see the scripture. Israel isn't Babylon, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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According to scripture,Babylon a a city,not a country.
Revelation 17:18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."

This city is resonsible for the deaths of prophets and saints and all the righteous blood shed upon the earth.
Revelation 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of God's holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth."

The city is situated upon seven hills.
Revelation 17:9 "This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

The city is called a harlot by the word of God.
Revelation 17:5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth.

Now here's a question for you.
What city which was situated upon seven hills did Jesus call a harlot,and according to Jesus is responsible for the deaths of prophets and saints and all the righteous blood shed upon the earth?

Lee Stuvmen said:

It is never comfortable for me to question the veracity of another's statement, which is obviously a trait we do not share, but the truth be known.

My link is only posted 10 times, not 100.

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Its OBVIOUS my 100 was Metaphoric, if I stated 10 and it was 15 it would be deemed a MIS-TRUTH , by saying 100 its obvious I meant MANY TIMES. Surely you didn't think I counted to 100 did you?

Lee Stuvmen said:

No one has visited that sight for 4 days, as you claim you have just done.

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I copy and pasted and since you know the Material you know I visited, as to your counter/clicker problem I can't help you there, the fact is its onbvious a C&P from your site.

Lee Stuvmen said:

But it would appear that you were honest in that your only intent was to find fault.

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When all I find is things that are incorrect all I can do is point them out. I have told you many times I understand America can not be Babylon and pointed out why, yet you persisted with the link, so I felt obliged to look. But I have to tell the truth as to what I see.

Lee Stuvmen said:

Had you started with the beginning post and worked your way through, you would have found only the Testimony of Daniel, John(Revelation), Jesus Christ,
God(Himself).[If you feel comfortable questioning their testimony, that is up to you.]

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Just because people post Biblical scriptures, doesn't make their understandings thereof correct automatically does it? COME ON.

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.c.../netanyahu-israel-will-never-leave-west-bank/


The little horn of the beast is speaking boastful words just as scripture says.
Obviously the Israeli goverment doesn't know what the word of God says concerning Jerusalem and the cities of Israel .

shilohsfoal said:

There's an old saying"know thy enemy".If you want to understand the mind of the enemies of our Lord and those kings of,the east with those 200 million then read the books they believe in.You will learn the signs they seek and the reason they march to Armageddon ,Israel.

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Prove to me the 200 Million is a part of the SIXTH VIAL (Rev. 16:Armageddon) because I swear I saw it in Rev. chapter 9 when the Sixth Trumpet blew.

shilohsfoal said:

The city is called a harlot by the word of God.
Revelation 17:5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth.

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Which the Angel explained in 17:8-18. What JOHN SAW was a NAME which meant that the Harlot which is FALSE RELIGION, was a part of BABYLON THE GREAT as well as an ABOMINATION of the EARTH as well as the MOTHER OF HARLOTS....False Religion, associated with all three.

shilohsfoal said:

Now here's a question for you.
What city which was situated upon seven hills did Jesus call a harlot,and according to Jesus is responsible for the deaths of prophets and saints and all the righteous blood shed upon the earth?

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ALWAYS REMEMBER this reply where you will never make this same mistake again. You do understand the Seven Headed Beast is what is being SPOKEN OF RIGHT? Thus the Seven Heads are Seven Mountains (Greek OROS, one who arises above the plains) who are ALSO SEVEN KINGS. So you do understand the Seven Kings are the gist of this point, and the MOUNTAINS Represented the SEVEN HEADS and we know who they are, they are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the Little Horn/Anti-Christ so how do you get SEVEN HILLS/Mountains in ONE CITY !!!

It is impossible brother. You have missed the clue. along with many others. The passage has absolutely NOTHING to do with Mountains. Its the Angel, REDUCING the Seven Kingdoms to Kings kind of like 10/20 to 5/10 to 1/2, the LAST BEAST is going to be ONE MAN, and he has no successor, thus God reduced the Kingdoms to Kings who have FALLEN !! The last BEAST will be the only King who started the Kingdom and was the King that will FALL !!

The Seven Heads are known to be different, even Re. 13 tells us that the Lion, Leopard and Bear was a part of the Seven Headed Beast, so how can Babylon, Greece and Persia all be IN ONE CITY? And in reality its Seven different Kingdoms save for the last two. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE CITY !!

Babylon is the WHOLE WORLD. Gods Plagues come against the WHOLE WORLD.

shilohsfoal said:

There a been seven kingdom which have ruled over Israel.
When John wrote revelation there had been 5 that were fallen and one that was,yet there would be one more that would rule over Israel before it declared its independence.Name that kingdom.

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So you should know it can't be Seven Hills in one city right?

shilohsfoal said:

The little horn which Daniell wrote of is that small country which calls itself Israel.

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The Little Horn is the Anti-Christ who becomes the BEAST when he Conquers Jerusalem.

Wake up sleeping beauty.
The little horn which appeared a little later than the others took control of Jerusalem (the seven hilled city)in 1967.
He defeated Syria,Jordan and Egypt.
It's was called the 6 day war.
Daniel 7:24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.

shilohsfoal said:

According to scripture,Babylon a a CITY, not a country.

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Rev 18:
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“standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great City Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.'
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“and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great City that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls!
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“and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great City?'

shilohsfoal said:

This city is resonsible for the deaths of prophets and saints and all the righteous blood shed upon the earth.
Revelation 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of God's holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth."

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Mat 23:37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!
Luk 13:34 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!

Notice in Reve 11:8 the reference to Sodom and Egypt. One was a city and the other a country.

Rev 11:8
And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our[fn] Lord was crucified.

Jerusalem even holds gay pride parades?

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Pride-parade-kicks-off-in-Jerusalem-501545

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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
The Destruction Of JERUSALEM
An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY:

We have a winner
Now look in the city of Babylon and you will find the beast that once exsisted and then did not and yet did once more.

Revelation 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

We have a winner
Now look in the city of Babylon and you will find the beast that once exsisted and then did not and yet did once more.

Revelation 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

His symbol is that of a star.
Molech=king
Amos 5:26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god -- which you made for yourselves.

stillwaters45 said:

If not, why not, or if you think this is a ridiculous suggestion, what are your reasons? I am interested in hearing them.

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- mouth of a lion -english speaking, -body of a leopard- african slave force, feet of a bear- indian indigenous people- in contact with the land, also down trodden. Maybe!

Hawkins said:

Yes. it is.

Yet it's talking about today's secular education system which the US inherited from English (beast from the sea). Washington is the name of the beast. It says how atheism raised from today's education to be like a plague to fight God.

Everyone is forced into the secular education system which gives them the mark in the forehead (mind) and right hand (behavior) to fight God.

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Which begs the question: What will happen to America if it is indeed the Beast?

black.hawk said:

Which begs the question: What will happen to America if it is indeed the Beast?

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It's basically not about the America. It's about how the power of the death (Pale horse - unbelievers) will finally take over in terms of governmental power in this world.

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Revealing Times said:

Revelation is just a BIG CODE BOOK. To unravel it read the Old Testament, out of 404 verses 289 have Old Testament verbiage.

The Dragon is Satan, the BEAST is any Kingdom that conquered/enslaved Israel, Daniel ch. 7 tells us this, it just needs to be researched.

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Revelation 19:19 The beast is the King and his army, Russia, Syria, the USA and all who oppose Christ

Hal A Peno said:

Why would God send a plague to the whole world killing all sorts of innocent people? These plagues are meant for and directed to the followers of the beast.

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You do understand that either you will be in Heaven as the Church (1 Billion or more Raptured, maybe less) or you will be on earth, serving Satan by having taken the Mark of the Beast, or you will be Martyred. Where do you get "INNOCENT PEOPLES" from? Only Israel are protected from this Tyrant Beast.

Hal A Peno said:

NOT the entire world.

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There is nothing left but those who have taken the Mark of the Beast.

Rev. 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

There will be no one left but those that serves the BEAST. 1.5 Billion people are killed during the Four Horses.........

Rev. 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

So 1 Billion Raptured leaves 6 Billion, 1/4 Die in the Four Horses episode, that's 1.5 Billion, so we now have only 4.5 Billion people left on earth. By this time those left will have taken the Mark of the Beast out of shear fear, can you imagine the terror of 1.5 Billion Deaths? Even though some are by Famine, that could be because they can't buy food without the Mark of the Beast !!

Hal A Peno said:

The empire of the man of sin isn't global, it's a limited empire situated in the Middle-East. It really impressess me that people believe in globalism. That's what the experts have taught for decades, even centuries, and it's NOT TRUE.

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The Holy Scriptures say it is true. The Judgments come against all Mankind.

Hal A Peno said:

The woman, the mountains, and the city are used interchangeably.

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

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No they aren't, the Woman is the HARLOT which = All False Religion of all time. That is why she is KILLED OFF in Rev. 17:16. No Religions are needed anymore, the Anti-Christ wants to be Worshiped as the ONLY GOD !!

The Mountains = The Seven Heads (Seven Kingdoms) and thus are CONVERTED to Seven Kings by using Mountains (OROS/One who arises above the plains which means a RULER) So the Mountains Represent the Seven Heads just like the Verse says, so it can not be about ONE CITY...That is a misinterpretation.

The Great City that JOHN SAW was Babylon imprinted on the Harlots Head, it is meant to show ASSOCIATION as in the Harlot RIDES the Beast.