James 2:26 ..the body without the Spirit is Dead
so there goes the false immortal Spirit theory.
so there goes the false immortal Spirit theory.
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The spirit is immortal, the body is not. It is the spirit that gives the body it's life.
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The body being dead does not mean the Spirit ceases to exist.. When the Spirit leaves the Body then the Body dies.. The Body is not what we are.. The body is the vehicle we experience this physical Creation through.. We are Spirit and the Bible reveals we shall never cease to exist..
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Those without the Spirit of God will die. Those with the Spirit of God will rise to life with Jesus.
alive in the flesh = dead in the Spirit
dead in the flesh = alive in the Spirit
alive in the flesh = dead in the Spirit
dead in the flesh = alive in the Spirit
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Actually I disagree, we are not Spirit, but body and soul. When God breathe into us we became a living soul and we dwelled with the Spirit. We lost that when sin entered the world. That's why when Jesus left the earth, he left the Holy Spirit with us. To make us whole again (body, soul, spirit). So when someone believes in Jesus they are now made whole with the Holy Spirit.When we die, it's our soul that would leave the body. But having the Holy Spirit is what gonna bring us to eternal life.
It's up for debate though, so I would love to hear what you have to say about that. That's just my understanding.
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Proverbs 18: KJV
14 "The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded spirit who can bear?"
Ecclesiastes 3: KJV
19 "For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. {20} All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. {21} Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?"
1 Thessalonians 5: KJV
22 "Abstain from all appearance of evil. {23} And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."
Romans 8: KJV
16 "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:"
The Spirit in Romans 8 is the Holy Spirit but our spirit is our own spirit..
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KJV capitalizes Sririt, don't know what version you usebut it does not matter. 500or more of the oldest Greek Manuscripts were written majorscule in CAPS. Not to mention that it also says:1 Timothy 6:15...(God) only hath immortality..[DARBY] G110
αθανασια Job 34:14-15 If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit AND his breath.
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Then shall the dust return to the earth AS IT WAS and the spirit shall return to God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7
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We are not spirit we are flesh & blood, the spirit God gave us is a loan and is temporary. Why have a resurrection? I guess you have not read 2 Thessalonians 1:9 ? The penalty is destruction eternally for those who do not obey God.
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2 Thessalonians 1:9; Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thu takest away their breath they die, and return to their dust. Psalms 104:29
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Because being dead is undesirable. Because a spirit without a body is incomplete. Because we were made to be alive, and anything less falls short of God's design. None of that implies what you're suggesting.
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I've often felt that the Holy Spirit is somewhat left out when it comes to thankfulness and love. I don't think that many people say thanks to the Holy Spirit or say I love you to the Holy Spirit as much as they do to Jesus and God The Father. So I've started doing this. I'm curious has anyone else has noticed this to?
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If we where only flesh and blood then once we died then we would cease to exist... To be reasurected we must exist in the form of spirit and then be united with our New bodies.. Otherwise it would be a case of being created again.. those who disbelieve God and reject His atonement will indeed face eternal torment in the lake of fire thus their spirit will exist for ever and ever in that lake of fire..
Oh and PS: I have read the entire Bible..
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No everyone is going to be reasurected therefore they are going to continue in as a spirit connected to an eternal body.. Some are going to have eternity with Jesus in His perfect existence as perfected beings.. Some will have eternity with satan and his fallen angels in the eternal lake of fire in torment.. Both saved and damned both have eternity.. But they have it in two very different locations..
The spirit of the one in the eternal lake of fire does not cease to exist.. that spirit shall exist for ever and ever..
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Oops! you forgot 2 Thessalonians 1:9 who shall pay the penalty of eternal destruction..(DARBY)
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Try the KJV-BRG and read LUKE 24:26 ..Father into thine hands I commend my Spirit..KJV-BRG; Job 34:14-15; Psalms 104:29; Psalms 146:4; Ecclestaces 12:7; Isaiah 2:22; Acts of the Apostles 7:59-60;
AS such "the body has no life independent of the presence of the Spirit. [BARNES]; Apart from the Spirit (choris pneumatos). Apart from breath (the breath of Life]. [ROBERTSON] The Codex Sinaictus is the oldest complete manuscript we have, written in all CAPS. Why don't you look at my Avatar? You will see the Sample. There are other version one is spurious, the others are all written after the 10th Century and have many errors and notes written in the margins. So I guess you like to eat crow?
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