Daniel’s 490 Years and the Coming of King Messiah

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Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.”

Daniel 9:26 “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

Daniel 9:27 “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”

Because Israel failed to repent of the sin which caused the captivity, the law called for an additional 490 years of punishment. This prophecy involved exactly 490 years or the period of time that Israel should have been punished. This 490 period can be looked at as probationary time.

The people were allowed back in the land and Israel was again formed; however, the people did receive punishment as the kingdom was taken away. Additionally, for approximately 2500 years, from 586 BC until 1948, the nation was under the authority of a foreign power. Israel never again had a king from the messianic line of David to sit and rule.

In Daniel 9:24, the time frame for the prophecy was set for 70 weeks. The Hebrew word for week, shabuwa, literally means seven. The context determines whether it means weeks of a month or it could mean seven of years. The context of Daniel 9 determines it meant seven of years or 70×7 (weeks of years) which would equal 490 years.

The 490 years also perfectly matches the period of time for the additional punishment under the law of Moses. The idea that this Hebrew word for week could mean seven years can be seen when Jacob was taking a wife. He was tricked into marrying Leah, but he actually wanted to marry Rachel her sister. He was then told he would have to work one week (shabuwa) for Rachel which actually was seven years. Jacob agreed to work for the seven years, and he was given Rachel to marry.

The Scriptures to show this follow:

Genesis 29:26-28 – “And Laban said, It must not be so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn. Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years. And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.”

The underlying factor of this prophecy is that Israel was given 490 years to deal with the sin of the nation and prepare for the coming of King Messiah. The prophecy would start with the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. Messiah, the prince, would come exactly 483 years (69 weeks) after the command was given.

Then the Messiah would be cut off or killed for others. After the 69 weeks, King Messiah would be killed, and Jerusalem and the temple would once again be destroyed and made desolate. There would be wars and desolations of Jerusalem for an unspecified period of time and then the end would come. This prophecy allows for the exact time for the first coming of King Messiah to be determined.

Daniel separated the 70th week, the last seven years, from the previous 69 weeks. The 70th week was specially separated from all the other years. This prophecy gives conclusive proof that only Jesus of Nazareth can be Israel ’s King Messiah, the Savior of mankind.

The Problem of Sin

Daniel 9:24 – “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”

The prophecy starts with the problem of sin. Man’s sin has to be addressed before King Messiah can rule over His world-wide kingdom. All of man’s rebellion was touched in this verse which includes transgressions, sins and iniquities. The people would have to come face to face with their rebellion against God and be cleansed of these transgressions, sins and iniquities. God made it clear that sin would not be tolerated under King Messiah’s rule.

Ezekiel chapters 40-48 covers the period when King Messiah reigns from His temple in Jerusalem . God makes it very clear that during this period of time He will not tolerate the sin that was done during the kings of Judah . The end of this sin was a prerequisite for the Messiah to rule from Jerusalem . Sin has to be dealt with before King Messiah can rule over the nations:

Ezekiel 43:7 “And he (The LORD) said unto me (Ezekiel), Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places. (9) Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever.”

The law clearly shows Israel how to be clean before the LORD. On the Day of Atonement after all the rituals were completed, Israel would be clean before the holy God of Israel. To deal with the transgression, sin and iniquity, the law specifies that first the offenders must repent of the sin and then realize that the death and atoning blood of an innocent animal was needed to pay the penalty for these sins.

The people first must repent or as the Bible states, “ye shall afflict your souls” over their iniquities, transgressions and sins. Without the affliction of the soul, the rituals would have no meaning. It would take repentance of sin and the death of an animal with the atoning blood to pay the price for sin. In doing this before the holy God of Israel, the people were made clean.

Leviticus 16:31 “It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever.”

Leviticus 16:30 “For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.”

Next, the high priest performed one sacrifice that was in two phases. Two goats were used in this sacrifice. The first was killed, and its blood was brought into the holy place of the temple and sprinkled on the top of the Ark of the Covenant. The Bible states the presence of the holy God of Israel hovered just over the Ark.

Exodus 25:22 “And there I (God) will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.”

The blood was brought before the very presence of God. This was to make an atonement for the sin of the people that affected God’s temple. This ritual showed clearly that people could not pay the penalty for their iniquity, transgression and sin which was death. God provided His way of reconciliation for the people’s sin, as an animal died in their place.

Leviticus 16:15 “Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the veil, … and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat: (16) And he shall make an atonement for the holy place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions in all their sins: and so shall he do for the tabernacle of the congregation, that remaineth among them in the midst of their uncleanness.”

In the second part of this process, the high priest laid his hands on the remaining goat and confessed over the goat all the iniquities, transgressions and sins of the people. The goat was then taken out from the temple into the desert to die. This goat also atoned for all the sin of the people. God’s way to deal with sin was clear. First, the person was to afflict their soul and then believe an innocent animal died in their place for the sin. The death and shed blood brought atonement from the sin.

Leviticus 16:21-22 – “And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness: And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.”

God gave Israel 490 years to prepare for the coming of King Messiah by applying the law of Moses’ method of dealing with sin. Their heart was to be repentant before God, and they were to see the need that they could not atone for their own sin. They needed an atoning death and shed blood to pay the price for their sin. This would prepare the people for the ministry of King Messiah to reconcile the people with the holy God of Israel.

To Bring in Everlasting Righteousness

This prophecy directly connected the problem of sin and bringing in everlasting righteousness. There is only one source of everlasting righteousness, and that is King Messiah. The Lord Jesus was God’s righteousness. The Messiah and His kingdom will be the source of everlasting righteousness. He will reign forever in righteousness.

Jeremiah 23:5 – “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. (6) In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.”

When the Messiah rules over the nations from Jerusalem , the city will reflect His righteousness. King Messiah is called the righteous Branch of David, and Jerusalem will show this by being referred to as, “The LORD our righteousness.” Because the Messiah is located in Jerusalem , the city will mirror His righteousness.

Jeremiah 33:15 – “In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. (16) In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.”

Everything about King Messiah is righteous. When He is reigning as King, He will actually be called the LORD our righteousness. When He is reigning on Mount Zion in Jerusalem , the city will be called, “The LORD our righteousness.” He will judge the nations in righteousness. The Lord Jesus is the righteousness of God.

Isaiah 11:4 – “But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.”

Isaiah 42:6 – “I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;”

1 Corinthians 1:30 “But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:”

When the prophecy of Daniel chapter nine mentioned bringing in everlasting righteousness, it was speaking of receiving the Messiah and His kingdom. He alone is righteous and is to be received by the people. The entrance of everlasting righteousness connects directly with the people facing their sin because the problem of man’s sin must be addressed before King Messiah can reign over the nations in righteousness.

Unto Messiah the Prince

Daniel 9:25 “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.”

The Bible gives the exact time reference when the people will be required to bring in the everlasting righteousness. The everlasting righteousness is of course King Messiah or as He is addressed, “Messiah the Prince.”

The time for the revealing of the Messiah will be 69 weeks or 483 years from the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. The key to this prophecy is the command to restore and rebuild the city of Jerusalem . The prophecy starts with the rebuilding of the city including the street and walls. The time clock or countdown to King Messiah starts with this command. This Scripture is very clear that it is not the command to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem , but the city itself commences the countdown.

The focus of Daniel’s prayer had been the desolation of Jerusalem and that God would end the judgment and restore the people to the land and Jerusalem . Daniel’s prayer actually made reference to the “desolation of Jerusalem.” The 70 years were in reference to destruction of Jerusalem.

God honored Daniel’s prayer and used Jerusalem as the catalyst for identifying the exact time King Messiah would be revealed to Israel. Jerusalem plays a critical part in determining the timing of Messiah’s coming. Remember, it is not the rebuilding of the temple which is critical, but the actual decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem which is the key to this time frame.

The 69 weeks, or 483 years, were broken in two segments. The first is seven weeks or 49 years while the second is 62 weeks or 434 years. There is a very important reason that God divided the 483 years for the coming of the Messiah into two sections. The first section is divided into 49 years to get the people ready for the coming of King Messiah. The end of every 49 years was a Jubilee year. The seventh Sabbath rest (7×7=49 years) of the land was a Jubilee year. Thus the 50th year was a special Sabbath rest of the land.

Leviticus 25:8 “And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine [49] years . (11) A jubilee shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed.”

It is important to realize that God uses cycles of seven years or weeks of years in dealing with Israel and counting time. The Seventy weeks or 490 year prophecy of Daniel that began with the decree to restore and build Jerusalem is a continuation of seven-year cycles that included the Sabbath rest of the land. God did not end these Sabbath cycles when Israel returned to the land. However, He made it clear they would continue until the coming of the Messiah and the fulfillment of the prophecy.

By John McTernan


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Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.”

Daniel 9:26 “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

Daniel 9:27 “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”


Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled during the first century, by Christ.

Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”


Act 10:38  how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him. 


Heb 10:16  "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR HEARTS, AND IN THEIR MINDS I WILL WRITE THEM," 
Heb 10:17  then He adds, "THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE." 
Heb 10:18  Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin. 


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From the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.

Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.
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The covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 is the same New Covenant with many in Matthew 26:28.

Who Confirmed The Covenant?
James Lloyd
http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

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Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled during the first century, by Christ.

Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”


Act 10:38  how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him. 


Heb 10:16  "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR HEARTS, AND IN THEIR MINDS I WILL WRITE THEM," 
Heb 10:17  then He adds, "THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE." 
Heb 10:18  Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin. 


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From the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.

Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.
........................................................

The covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 is the same New Covenant with many in Matthew 26:28.

Who Confirmed The Covenant?
James Lloyd
http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

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Prophecy pertaining to Israel that has not yet been fulfilled

1. National Israel has not accepted Jesus as their Messiah…thus finishing transgression, receiving atonement and bringing in everlasting righteousness for the Jewish people. (Daniel 9:24)

2. Vision and Prophecy have not been sealed up. (Daniel 9:24, Acts 2:17)

3. The Most Holy Place has not been anointed. (Daniel 9:24)

4. The firm covenant comes AFTER the destruction of Jerusalem which was in A.D. 70. (Daniel 9:27)

5. Jesus did not confirm a seven year covenant that ended sacrifices and grain offerings three and a half years into it. (Daniel 9:27)

6. There was no seven year covenant that ended sacrifices and grain offerings in the middle of it in A.D. 70. (Daniel 9:27)

7. Jesus spoke of the Abomination of Desolation as a yet future event. (Daniel 9:27, Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15)

8. Daniel 11:31 makes it very clear that Jesus is not the one who stops the sacrifices or sets up the abomination of Desolation.

9. There was no one in A.D. 70 who came in accordance with Satan with all power and signs and false wonders. (2 Thessalonians 2:9, Revelation 13)

10. The Prince who is to come was not destroyed by the second coming of Christ in A.D. 70. (Daniel 9:27, 2 Thessalonians 2:8)

11. There was no false prophet who set up an image of the Beast/Antichrist/Prince who is to come, demanding people to worship him. (Daniel 9:27, Revelation 13:14-15)

12. There was no mark given people in A.D. 70 that kept Christians from buying or selling unless they worshipped the Beast. (Revelation 13:16-17)

13. Revelation was not written until A.D. 96…more than twenty years after the events of A.D. 70. (quote from Irenaeus puts Revelation during the time of Domitian.)

14. There was no resurrection or rapture in A.D. 70 which precede Christ’s coming to the earth and the Day of the Lord. (Daniel 12:1-3, 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3)

15. The sun was not darkened and the moon was not turned to blood in A.D. 70. (Joel 2:31, Matthew 24:29, Acts 2:20, Revelation 6:12-17)

16. There was no world-wide tribulation unequaled by any other time in A.D. 70. (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21-22)

17. The kings of the earth and great men and slaves did not hide from the wrath of God in A.D. 70. (Revelation 6:15)

18. All ungodly people did not worship the beast in A.D. 70. (Revelation 13:8)

19. There was no earthquake stronger than any other in A.D. 70. (Revelation 16:18)

20. The kings of the earth did not gather their armies to battle Christ and His army in A.D. 70. (Revelation 19:19)


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Prophecy pertaining to Israel that has not yet been fulfilled

1. National Israel has not accepted Jesus as their Messiah…thus finishing transgression, receiving atonement and bringing in everlasting righteousness for the Jewish people. (Daniel 9:24)

2. Vision and Prophecy have not been sealed up. (Daniel 9:24, Acts 2:17)

3. The Most Holy Place has not been anointed. (Daniel 9:24)

4. The firm covenant comes AFTER the destruction of Jerusalem which was in A.D. 70. (Daniel 9:27)

5. Jesus did not confirm a seven year covenant that ended sacrifices and grain offerings three and a half years into it. (Daniel 9:27)

6. There was no seven year covenant that ended sacrifices and grain offerings in the middle of it in A.D. 70. (Daniel 9:27)

7. Jesus spoke of the Abomination of Desolation as a yet future event. (Daniel 9:27, Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15)

8. Daniel 11:31 makes it very clear that Jesus is not the one who stops the sacrifices or sets up the abomination of Desolation.

9. There was no one in A.D. 70 who came in accordance with Satan with all power and signs and false wonders. (2 Thessalonians 2:9, Revelation 13)

10. The Prince who is to come was not destroyed by the second coming of Christ in A.D. 70. (Daniel 9:27, 2 Thessalonians 2:8)

11. There was no false prophet who set up an image of the Beast/Antichrist/Prince who is to come, demanding people to worship him. (Daniel 9:27, Revelation 13:14-15)

12. There was no mark given people in A.D. 70 that kept Christians from buying or selling unless they worshipped the Beast. (Revelation 13:16-17)

13. Revelation was not written until A.D. 96…more than twenty years after the events of A.D. 70. (quote from Irenaeus puts Revelation during the time of Domitian.)

14. There was no resurrection or rapture in A.D. 70 which precede Christ’s coming to the earth and the Day of the Lord. (Daniel 12:1-3, 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3)

15. The sun was not darkened and the moon was not turned to blood in A.D. 70. (Joel 2:31, Matthew 24:29, Acts 2:20, Revelation 6:12-17)

16. There was no world-wide tribulation unequaled by any other time in A.D. 70. (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21-22)

17. The kings of the earth and great men and slaves did not hide from the wrath of God in A.D. 70. (Revelation 6:15)

18. All ungodly people did not worship the beast in A.D. 70. (Revelation 13:8)

19. There was no earthquake stronger than any other in A.D. 70. (Revelation 16:18)

20. The kings of the earth did not gather their armies to battle Christ and His army in A.D. 70. (Revelation 19:19)


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Daniel was reading from the Book of Jeremiah when the angel Gabriel appeared.

The New Covenant had already been promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34.

Jesus is the New Covenant Messiah, based on Matthew 26:28, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:22-24.

The angel Gabriel did not come to reveal the timeline of the New Covenant Messiah and then forget to mention the New Covenant.

There is no antichrist or "gap" of time found in Daniel chapter 9.

The Dispensational interpretation of the passage must ignore Acts 10:38, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18.

Based on Matthew 10:5-7 and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken to the Jewish people for seven years, before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.


Daniel Chapter 9
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Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled during the first century, by Christ.

Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”


Act 10:38  how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him. 


Heb 10:16  "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR HEARTS, AND IN THEIR MINDS I WILL WRITE THEM," 
Heb 10:17  then He adds, "THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE." 
Heb 10:18  Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin. 


...............................................................


From the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.

Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.
........................................................

The covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 is the same New Covenant with many in Matthew 26:28.

Who Confirmed The Covenant?
James Lloyd
http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

.


You are a real dreamer to believe the end of sin, everlasting righteousness and the end of ejquities is present in the world today! Where have you been? None of them, as related in Dan.9:24 will be fulfilled until Jesus is sitting on the throne of David, in the restored kingdom of Israelm during Jesus 1,000 year reign on earth, as recorded in Acts 1:6; 2:29-30; 15:16 Zech.6:12-13, described in Ez.40-47, and Rev.20:6. Fulfilling Mt.6:9-13.


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Daniel was reading from the Book of Jeremiah when the angel Gabriel appeared.

The New Covenant had already been promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34.

Jesus is the New Covenant Messiah, based on Matthew 26:28, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:22-24.

The angel Gabriel did not come to reveal the timeline of the New Covenant Messiah and then forget to mention the New Covenant.

There is no antichrist or "gap" of time found in Daniel chapter 9.

The Dispensational interpretation of the passage must ignore Acts 10:38, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18.

Based on Matthew 10:5-7 and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken to the Jewish people for seven years, before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.


Daniel Chapter 9
Dr. Kelly Varner

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Who confirms the covenant in Dan.9:27?

ANTICHRIST: Applying the accepted rule of interpretation and observing the text for the nearest antecedent of the pronoun he (without bias or influence by other "experts"), this he most closely parallels the prince who is to comein the previous passage (Daniel 9:26). This is the conclusion reached by most conservative evangelical commentaries, who go on to identify him as the Little Horn (Antichrist) who "came up among the (10) horns" of the fourth beast (fourth kingdom ~ "Revived Rome") chapter 7 of Daniel (Da 7:8,11-note Da 7:20, 21-note).

It is interesting that both Christ and Antichrist are referred to as "prince" (synonymous with "king"), for the prefix "anti-" means the regal imposter is not only opposed to or against Christ, but "instead of" or a substitute for the real Christ.

We know that the prince's people (Rome) destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D., and can deduce that this coming princehas his ancestral roots in the ancient Roman Empire and is thus part of what is often referred to as "the revived Roman Empire", the final Gentile world government described in Romans 7 (see Da 7:7-note, Da 7:19-note). In the Revelation of Jesus Christ, John records this vision...

And he stood on the sand of the seashore. And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems ("ten king stage" of the beast in Da 7), and on his heads were blasphemous names. 2 And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion (Ed: Note how this is the reverse of the sequence of same beasts in Da 7:1, 2,3, 4, 5, 6-note - John is looking back in time and sees the leopard first = Greece, bear = Medo-Persia, Lion = Babylon). And the dragon (Satan) gave him (Antichrist) his power and his throne and great authority. (Notice how the term "beast" merges subtlety from a beastly kingdom to the king of that kingdom in the latter part of the verse) (Re 13:1-note; Re 13:2-note; see also study of The Beast; and Beasts, Heads, and Horns)


What is it that "he" will do? The antichrist will "make a firm covenant with the many for one week," that is seven years. Non-literal interpreters of Daniel’s seventy-week prophecy usually attempt to make this covenant a reference to Christ’s covenant to save His people, usually known as the covenant of grace. "This, then, is a confirming of a covenant already extant, i.e., the covenant of God’s redemptive grace that Christ confirms (Rom. 15:8)," claims Dr. Gentry. Dr. Gentry and those advocating a similar view, must resort to a non-textual, theological interpretation at this point since there was no seven-year covenant made by Christ with the Jewish people at the time of His first coming. They must back off from the specifics of the text in verse 27 and import in a theological interpretation, thus providing us with a classic example of spiritualization or allegorical interpretation.

If this is supposed to be a reference to the covenant of grace, then "it may be observed first that this would be a strange way to express such a thought," notes Dr. Wood. Christ’s salvation covenant is not limited to seven years rather it is an eternal covenant. Daniel 9:27 says the covenant is to be made with "the many." This term always refers in some way to Israel throughout the book of Daniel (Daniel 11:33, 39; 12:3). Thus it is a narrow term, used in a specific context. It is not a broad term, synonymous with the language of global salvation. Further, "it is evident that the covenant is subsequent to the cutting off of Messiah and the destruction of the City and the Sanctuary, in the twenty-sixth verse; therefore, it could not have been confirmed at the First Advent," says G. H. Pember. Such an interpretation does not fit this text and it does not account for the seven years that Gabriel says this covenant will be in place. Dr. Wood further explains:

Since a covenant as described in verse 27 has not yet taken place in reference to the nation of Israel, it must therefore follow that this will be a yet to occur future event. This then, demands a postponement of the seventieth week with a gap of time between the sixty-ninth and seventieth weeks of years.

For One Week

This passage clearly says that the length of the covenant that "he" will make will be for one week or seven years. I suppose that this could mean either that the covenant will be predetermined to last seven years or that it does not specify a length of time when made, but as it turns out, is only in existence for seven years. Many of those who believe that the entire prophecy of the seventy weeks has already been fulfilled around the time of Christ’s first coming teach that the first half of the seventieth week was fulfilled by Christ’s ministry. "We know Christ’s three-and-one-half-year ministry," says Dr. Gentry, "was decidedly focused on the Jews in the first half of the seventieth week (Matt. 10:5b; cf. Matt. 15:24)." G. H. Pember objects to such a view with the following:[/font]

Conclusion

Once again we have seen in this installment on the seventy weeks that the text of this passage supports a gap of time between the sixty-ninth and seventieth weeks. It is becoming increasingly obvious that the seventieth week is still future to the time in which we now live. "Israel has now been reestablished as a nation (1948), suggesting that the seventieth seven may soon begin." Maranatha

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This is the conclusion reached by most conservative evangelical commentaries, who go on to identify him as the Little Horn (Antichrist) who "came up among the (10) horns" of the fourth beast (fourth kingdom ~ "Revived Rome") chapter 7 of Daniel (Da 7:8,11-note Da 7:20, 21-note).

I'm unable to identify any commentator prior to 1850 who claims that the covenantor is antichrist. They all claim it is Christ.
 
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I'm unable to identify any commentator prior to 1850 who claims that the covenantor is antichrist. They all claim it is Christ.


Here is from one source of a great many who refute you.

DANIEL 9:26-27 CANNOT BE JESUS
By Ed Tarkowski
Dan 9:27 AND HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: AND IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK HE SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This could not be Jesus who confirms "the covenant" for seven years for the following reasons:


  • 1. There is no other covenant Jesus established except that of Calvary.
    2. He did not confirm a covenant 3-1/2 years before Calvary. Calvary would have been the middle of the week, not the time of confirmation 3-1/2 years earlier.
    3. For Calvary to be the confirmation of the covenant, Calvary would have to have been the BEGINNING of the week.
    4. Therefore, it could not be the middle of the week when sacrifices were cut off.
The New Covenant was confirmed by His resurrection and the OT sacrifices were put to rest within a 3 day period. In Daniel 9:26, there is a three and a half year gap between the confirming the covenant and the cutting off of the sacrifices. Since Jesus made no other covenant with anybody, the person who confirms the covenant for seven years in Daniel 9:26-27 must be the prince of the people who destroys the city.


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Here is from one source of a great many who refute you.

DANIEL 9:26-27 CANNOT BE JESUS
By Ed Tarkowski
Dan 9:27 AND HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: AND IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK HE SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This could not be Jesus who confirms "the covenant" for seven years for the following reasons:


  • 1. There is no other covenant Jesus established except that of Calvary.
    2. He did not confirm a covenant 3-1/2 years before Calvary. Calvary would have been the middle of the week, not the time of confirmation 3-1/2 years earlier.
    3. For Calvary to be the confirmation of the covenant, Calvary would have to have been the BEGINNING of the week.
    4. Therefore, it could not be the middle of the week when sacrifices were cut off.
The New Covenant was confirmed by His resurrection and the OT sacrifices were put to rest within a 3 day period. In Daniel 9:26, there is a three and a half year gap between the confirming the covenant and the cutting off of the sacrifices. Since Jesus made no other covenant with anybody, the person who confirms the covenant for seven years in Daniel 9:26-27 must be the prince of the people who destroys the city.


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Problems:

"Prince of the people who destroy the city?" Jews didn't destroy the temple and the city? And neither did Christians. Romans destroyed the city.

After Christ's ministry, death and resurrection, what ended the covenant 3 1/2 years later? Could it be Cornelius' conversion and the gospel going to the Gentiles and the Jews are partially blinded? Just thinking out loud.

But then if vs. 25 is 70 A.D., how can vs. 26 be 30 A.D. to 36 A.D.? It should be the other way around.
 
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Problems:

"Prince of the people who destroy the city?" Jews didn't destroy the temple and the city? And neither did Christians. Romans destroyed the city.

After Christ's ministry, death and resurrection, what ended the covenant 3 1/2 years later? Could it be Cornelius' conversion and the gospel going to the Gentiles and the Jews are partially blinded? Just thinking out loud.


Who Confirmed The Covenant?
James Lloyd
http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

Was the Gospel taken to Daniel's people for about 7 years, before it was taken to the Gentiles by Paul?


Mat 10:5  These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 
Mat 10:6  But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 
Mat 10:7  And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'


 
Gal 1:14  And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers. 
Gal 1:15  But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace, 
Gal 1:16  to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, 
Gal 1:17  nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus. 
Gal 1:18  Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days. 


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Who Confirmed The Covenant?
James Lloyd
http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

Was the Gospel taken to Daniel's people for about 7 years, before it was taken to the Gentiles by Paul?


Mat 10:5  These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 
Mat 10:6  But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 
Mat 10:7  And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'


 
Gal 1:14  And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers. 
Gal 1:15  But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace, 
Gal 1:16  to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, 
Gal 1:17  nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus. 
Gal 1:18  Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days. 


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Interesting. But Peter went to Cornelius, not Paul.
 
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Who Confirmed The Covenant?
James Lloyd
http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

Was the Gospel taken to Daniel's people for about 7 years, before it was taken to the Gentiles by Paul?


Mat 10:5  These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 
Mat 10:6  But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 
Mat 10:7  And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'


 
Gal 1:14  And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers. 
Gal 1:15  But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace, 
Gal 1:16  to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, 
Gal 1:17  nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus. 
Gal 1:18  Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days. 


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Remember also that the "lost sheep of the House of Israel were the 10 lost tribes, not the House of Judah, the two tribes in Jerusalem. Where were those 10 lost tribes?

Also, what about the tribe of Levi. They were the priests. So were they with the 10 lost tribes, or with Judah and Benjamin? Must be with Judah and Benjamin, as there were more than 12 tribes counting Joseph's sons.
 
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Here is from one source of a great many who refute you.

DANIEL 9:26-27 CANNOT BE JESUS
By Ed Tarkowski
Dan 9:27 AND HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: AND IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK HE SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This could not be Jesus who confirms "the covenant" for seven years for the following reasons:


  • 1. There is no other covenant Jesus established except that of Calvary.
    2. He did not confirm a covenant 3-1/2 years before Calvary. Calvary would have been the middle of the week, not the time of confirmation 3-1/2 years earlier.
    3. For Calvary to be the confirmation of the covenant, Calvary would have to have been the BEGINNING of the week.
    4. Therefore, it could not be the middle of the week when sacrifices were cut off.
The New Covenant was confirmed by His resurrection and the OT sacrifices were put to rest within a 3 day period. In Daniel 9:26, there is a three and a half year gap between the confirming the covenant and the cutting off of the sacrifices. Since Jesus made no other covenant with anybody, the person who confirms the covenant for seven years in Daniel 9:26-27 must be the prince of the people who destroys the city.


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I don't see Bro. Tarkowski in the BibleHub list of commentators. Who else ya got?
 
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Problems:

"Prince of the people who destroy the city?" Jews didn't destroy the temple and the city? And neither did Christians. Romans destroyed the city.

After Christ's ministry, death and resurrection, what ended the covenant 3 1/2 years later? Could it be Cornelius' conversion and the gospel going to the Gentiles and the Jews are partially blinded? Just thinking out loud.

But then if vs. 25 is 70 A.D., how can vs. 26 be 30 A.D. to 36 A.D.? It should be the other way around.


First of all, The 'he' who confirms a covenant, is the same person in all three of the 'he's, in verse 27 the Antichrist, who has nothing at all to do with either Messiah the Prince, or the prince, of the people to come. Who was general Titus and the people, was the Roman Army. There is nothing in Dan.9:26 that has a thing to do with verse 27, that many expositors believe to the contrary.

Hope this helps.


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First of all, The 'he' who confirms a covenant, is the same person in all three of the 'he's, in verse 27 the Antichrist, who has nothing at all to do with either Messiah the Prince, or the prince, of the people to come. Who was general Titus and the people, was the Roman Army. There is nothing in Dan.9:26 that has a thing to do with verse 27, that many expositors believe to the contrary.

Hope this helps.


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Actually, I know that version. What I want to know is the other version and how the questions I asked fit into that scenario.
 
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Remember also that the "lost sheep of the House of Israel were the 10 lost tribes, not the House of Judah, the two tribes in Jerusalem. Where were those 10 lost tribes?

Also, what about the tribe of Levi. They were the priests. So were they with the 10 lost tribes, or with Judah and Benjamin? Must be with Judah and Benjamin, as there were more than 12 tribes counting Joseph's sons.

We will let the New Testament writers answer the question, instead of using our own methods of interpretation.


Who was Peter talking to in the verse below on the Day of Pentecost?

Act 2:14  But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words.
 
Act 2:22  "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 

Act 2:36  "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ." 



Who was James talking to below?

Jas 1:1  James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Greetings. 
Jas 1:2  My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, 
Jas 1:3  knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 

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We will let the New Testament writers answer the question, instead of using our own methods of interpretation.


Who was Peter talking to in the verse below on the Day of Pentecost?

Act 2:14  But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words.
 
Act 2:22  "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 

Act 2:36  "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ." 



Who was James talking to below?

Jas 1:1  James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Greetings. 
Jas 1:2  My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, 
Jas 1:3  knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 

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Cool! I'll look at it closer. Now can you answer my other problems?
 
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Actually, I know that version. What I want to know is the other version and how the questions I asked fit into that scenario.


The views I gave you in my post #14 are those of the Scriptures as well as mine. They are the only correct views to your question.


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Here is from one source of a great many who refute you.

DANIEL 9:26-27 CANNOT BE JESUS
By Ed Tarkowski
Dan 9:27 AND HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: AND IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK HE SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This could not be Jesus who confirms "the covenant" for seven years for the following reasons:


  • 1. There is no other covenant Jesus established except that of Calvary.
    2. He did not confirm a covenant 3-1/2 years before Calvary. Calvary would have been the middle of the week, not the time of confirmation 3-1/2 years earlier.
    3. For Calvary to be the confirmation of the covenant, Calvary would have to have been the BEGINNING of the week.
    4. Therefore, it could not be the middle of the week when sacrifices were cut off.
The New Covenant was confirmed by His resurrection and the OT sacrifices were put to rest within a 3 day period. In Daniel 9:26, there is a three and a half year gap between the confirming the covenant and the cutting off of the sacrifices. Since Jesus made no other covenant with anybody, the person who confirms the covenant for seven years in Daniel 9:26-27 must be the prince of the people who destroys the city.


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Unsurprisingly and expectedly, the clear majority of commentators in the first 18 centuries of true Christian Church history who identified the one who confirms the covenant in Daniel 9:27, declared Him to be none other than Jesus Christ, the Divine Testator, who wrote the covenant of the New Will and Testament in His Own Blood, purchasing His Church for time and eternity.

Any who name the Name of Christ but claim otherwise are blinded to what was accomplished at Calvary, even as at the same time they are its eternal beneficiaries.
 
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Unsurprisingly and expectedly, the clear majority of commentators in the first 18 centuries of true Christian Church history who identified the one who confirms the covenant in Daniel 9:27, declared Him to be none other than Jesus Christ, the Divine Testator, who wrote the covenant of the New Will and Testament in His Own Blood, purchasing His Church for time and eternity.

Any who name the Name of Christ but claim otherwise are blinded to what was accomplished at Calvary, even as at the same time they are its eternal beneficiaries.


Supposing you show me where Jesus ever made a seven year covenat, stopped the temple sacricicing and set up an abomination of desolation, in Dan.8>27, AFTER He had been crucified in verse 26!


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