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Hey guys,

Oh how I miss being 12. I had a childlike faith that simply believed I was going to heaven, it was matter-of-fact, I strived for good morals and I easily believed everything taught in my church.

As I grew older I wanted something more real. My sister went to YWAM and said she had divine experiences seeing healings and people speaking in tongues/prophesying. I thought maybe we just don't see this stuff in Canada/US and I would need to go and see for myself. I went to a YWAM of my own and my faith was shattered from the ground up. I didn't know it was possible. I saw none of the miracles or "gifts" she was describing, only a group of people I found were somewhat deluded. I spent probably a month considering myself somewhat atheist/agnostic, which was seriously terrifying, I missed the comfort of the easy belief and I didn't know why this was happening to me.

Later on I considered myself theistic, I found the arguments of William Lane Craig/Ravi Zacharias and other apologists compelling so I believe there must be a God. Now I am committing all my time, my strength and my mind to research of apologetics, sincere prayer (I don't know why it's so difficult for me. Would you mind praying that I would be able to pray?) to find the real truth. The historicity of the bible has many valid arguments for it. When I consider all the Abrahamic faiths, true Christianity seems to be the most likely true out of all of them. It seems to stand out.

But day in and day out doubts swarm me. About whether I can even trust my own reasoning on this. About whether prayer works or does anything at all or if I am really just "tricking" my own mind into believing something that may be true or not. Christianity seems most likely out of all faiths I've researched, so really its a battle between Christianity in my mind and simply..not knowing what's true at all? I guess. It's strange but I just want to ask for prayer. I didn't think I would end this that way but if it does anything at all I really ask that anyone reading this with a genuine confirmed faith pray that I receive the same. I am so tired of doubts. I am even tired of apologetic research. I just want an absolute confirmation of the truth so I don't have to live in fear anymore.
 

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Hey guys,

Oh how I miss being 12. I had a childlike faith that simply believed I was going to heaven, it was matter-of-fact, I strived for good morals and I easily believed everything taught in my church.

As I grew older I wanted something more real. My sister went to YWAM and said she had divine experiences seeing healings and people speaking in tongues/prophesying. I thought maybe we just don't see this stuff in Canada/US and I would need to go and see for myself. I went to a YWAM of my own and my faith was shattered from the ground up. I didn't know it was possible. I saw none of the miracles or "gifts" she was describing, only a group of people I found were somewhat deluded. I spent probably a month considering myself somewhat atheist/agnostic, which was seriously terrifying, I missed the comfort of the easy belief and I didn't know why this was happening to me.

Later on I considered myself theistic, I found the arguments of William Lane Craig/Ravi Zacharias and other apologists compelling so I believe there must be a God. Now I am committing all my time, my strength and my mind to research of apologetics, sincere prayer (I don't know why it's so difficult for me. Would you mind praying that I would be able to pray?) to find the real truth. The historicity of the bible has many valid arguments for it. When I consider all the Abrahamic faiths, true Christianity seems to be the most likely true out of all of them. It seems to stand out.

But day in and day out doubts swarm me. About whether I can even trust my own reasoning on this. About whether prayer works or does anything at all or if I am really just "tricking" my own mind into believing something that may be true or not. Christianity seems most likely out of all faiths I've researched, so really its a battle between Christianity in my mind and simply..not knowing what's true at all? I guess. It's strange but I just want to ask for prayer. I didn't think I would end this that way but if it does anything at all I really ask that anyone reading this with a genuine confirmed faith pray that I receive the same. I am so tired of doubts. I am even tired of apologetic research. I just want an absolute confirmation of the truth so I don't have to live in fear anymore.

:heart: Welcome back trinity. Praying for you (((hug)))
 
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Sorry to hear about your setback in faith. God bless your time at Cf :wave:

Matthew 18:2-4
He called a child, whom he put among them, 3 and said, “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whoever becomes humble like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 19:13-15
Then the little children were brought to Jesus for Him to place His hands on them and pray for them; and the disciples rebuked those who brought them. 14But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them! For the kingdom of heaven” belongs to such as these. 15And after He had placed His hands on them, He went on from there.…
 
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Hey guys,

Oh how I miss being 12. I had a childlike faith that simply believed I was going to heaven, it was matter-of-fact, I strived for good morals and I easily believed everything taught in my church.

As I grew older I wanted something more real. My sister went to YWAM and said she had divine experiences seeing healings and people speaking in tongues/prophesying. I thought maybe we just don't see this stuff in Canada/US and I would need to go and see for myself. I went to a YWAM of my own and my faith was shattered from the ground up. I didn't know it was possible. I saw none of the miracles or "gifts" she was describing, only a group of people I found were somewhat deluded. I spent probably a month considering myself somewhat atheist/agnostic, which was seriously terrifying, I missed the comfort of the easy belief and I didn't know why this was happening to me.

Later on I considered myself theistic, I found the arguments of William Lane Craig/Ravi Zacharias and other apologists compelling so I believe there must be a God. Now I am committing all my time, my strength and my mind to research of apologetics, sincere prayer (I don't know why it's so difficult for me. Would you mind praying that I would be able to pray?) to find the real truth. The historicity of the bible has many valid arguments for it. When I consider all the Abrahamic faiths, true Christianity seems to be the most likely true out of all of them. It seems to stand out.

But day in and day out doubts swarm me. About whether I can even trust my own reasoning on this. About whether prayer works or does anything at all or if I am really just "tricking" my own mind into believing something that may be true or not. Christianity seems most likely out of all faiths I've researched, so really its a battle between Christianity in my mind and simply..not knowing what's true at all? I guess. It's strange but I just want to ask for prayer. I didn't think I would end this that way but if it does anything at all I really ask that anyone reading this with a genuine confirmed faith pray that I receive the same. I am so tired of doubts. I am even tired of apologetic research. I just want an absolute confirmation of the truth so I don't have to live in fear anymore.
Welcome back :) I am praying that Jesus reveal his love and compassion to you.
 
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Hey guys,

Oh how I miss being 12. I had a childlike faith that simply believed I was going to heaven, it was matter-of-fact, I strived for good morals and I easily believed everything taught in my church.

As I grew older I wanted something more real. My sister went to YWAM and said she had divine experiences seeing healings and people speaking in tongues/prophesying. I thought maybe we just don't see this stuff in Canada/US and I would need to go and see for myself. I went to a YWAM of my own and my faith was shattered from the ground up. I didn't know it was possible. I saw none of the miracles or "gifts" she was describing, only a group of people I found were somewhat deluded. I spent probably a month considering myself somewhat atheist/agnostic, which was seriously terrifying, I missed the comfort of the easy belief and I didn't know why this was happening to me.

Later on I considered myself theistic, I found the arguments of William Lane Craig/Ravi Zacharias and other apologists compelling so I believe there must be a God. Now I am committing all my time, my strength and my mind to research of apologetics, sincere prayer (I don't know why it's so difficult for me. Would you mind praying that I would be able to pray?) to find the real truth. The historicity of the bible has many valid arguments for it. When I consider all the Abrahamic faiths, true Christianity seems to be the most likely true out of all of them. It seems to stand out.

But day in and day out doubts swarm me. About whether I can even trust my own reasoning on this. About whether prayer works or does anything at all or if I am really just "tricking" my own mind into believing something that may be true or not. Christianity seems most likely out of all faiths I've researched, so really its a battle between Christianity in my mind and simply..not knowing what's true at all? I guess. It's strange but I just want to ask for prayer. I didn't think I would end this that way but if it does anything at all I really ask that anyone reading this with a genuine confirmed faith pray that I receive the same. I am so tired of doubts. I am even tired of apologetic research. I just want an absolute confirmation of the truth so I don't have to live in fear anymore.
WB.

I don't think there (from a Christian viewpoint) is an "absolute confirmation of the truth".

From what I've read in a thread I started, it seems to be a combination of "evidence in support of" and "faith".

Take those terms for what you will.
 
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WB.

I don't think there (from a Christian viewpoint) is an "absolute confirmation of the truth".

From what I've read in a thread I started, it seems to be a combination of "evidence in support of" and "faith".

Take those terms for what you will.
Being convinced by the evidence doesn't mean you have faith in God though.
Many firmly believe God exists, but have little faith in Him as a Father who loves you.
trinity77 said:
But day in and day out doubts swarm me. About whether I can even trust my own reasoning on this.
it is written one should not trust one's own reasoning but trust God.
I think that's about the things we're unable to know.
But it's easier said than done...
When expectations aren't met, doubts creep in.

But welcome back. :)
 
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Hey guys,

Oh how I miss being 12. I had a childlike faith that simply believed I was going to heaven, it was matter-of-fact, I strived for good morals and I easily believed everything taught in my church.

As I grew older I wanted something more real. My sister went to YWAM and said she had divine experiences seeing healings and people speaking in tongues/prophesying. I thought maybe we just don't see this stuff in Canada/US and I would need to go and see for myself. I went to a YWAM of my own and my faith was shattered from the ground up. I didn't know it was possible. I saw none of the miracles or "gifts" she was describing, only a group of people I found were somewhat deluded. I spent probably a month considering myself somewhat atheist/agnostic, which was seriously terrifying, I missed the comfort of the easy belief and I didn't know why this was happening to me.

Later on I considered myself theistic, I found the arguments of William Lane Craig/Ravi Zacharias and other apologists compelling so I believe there must be a God. Now I am committing all my time, my strength and my mind to research of apologetics, sincere prayer (I don't know why it's so difficult for me. Would you mind praying that I would be able to pray?) to find the real truth. The historicity of the bible has many valid arguments for it. When I consider all the Abrahamic faiths, true Christianity seems to be the most likely true out of all of them. It seems to stand out.

But day in and day out doubts swarm me. About whether I can even trust my own reasoning on this. About whether prayer works or does anything at all or if I am really just "tricking" my own mind into believing something that may be true or not. Christianity seems most likely out of all faiths I've researched, so really its a battle between Christianity in my mind and simply..not knowing what's true at all? I guess. It's strange but I just want to ask for prayer. I didn't think I would end this that way but if it does anything at all I really ask that anyone reading this with a genuine confirmed faith pray that I receive the same. I am so tired of doubts. I am even tired of apologetic research. I just want an absolute confirmation of the truth so I don't have to live in fear anymore.
Welcome to the boards, sounds like you have a lot to talk about. Let us know if you have any trouble navigating the board, hope you enjoy your stay.

Grace and peace,
Mark
 
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Being convinced by the evidence doesn't mean you have faith in God though.
Many firmly believe God exists, but have little faith in Him as a Father who loves you.
I was linking "faith" more so to the "evidence (of his existence)".
 
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Hey guys,

Oh how I miss being 12. I had a childlike faith that simply believed I was going to heaven, it was matter-of-fact, I strived for good morals and I easily believed everything taught in my church.

As I grew older I wanted something more real. My sister went to YWAM and said she had divine experiences seeing healings and people speaking in tongues/prophesying. I thought maybe we just don't see this stuff in Canada/US and I would need to go and see for myself. I went to a YWAM of my own and my faith was shattered from the ground up. I didn't know it was possible. I saw none of the miracles or "gifts" she was describing, only a group of people I found were somewhat deluded. I spent probably a month considering myself somewhat atheist/agnostic, which was seriously terrifying, I missed the comfort of the easy belief and I didn't know why this was happening to me.
I'm sorry you experienced this and that it ruined your faith. But please know that this sort of "Charismatic" movement is only one kind of Christianity. There are many other kinds, such as Catholic, Orthodox, Lutheran, Anglican, Methodist.. The list goes on. There is a home for you within Christianity.

But day in and day out doubts swarm me. About whether I can even trust my own reasoning on this.
Doubts afflict all of us. They test our faith and make it grow stronger. Don't shove your doubts aside, but work through them with prayer, patience and study. Reach out for advice, support or guidance if you need it.

About whether prayer works or does anything at all or if I am really just "tricking" my own mind into believing something that may be true or not. Christianity seems most likely out of all faiths I've researched, so really its a battle between Christianity in my mind and simply..not knowing what's true at all? I guess. It's strange but I just want to ask for prayer. I didn't think I would end this that way but if it does anything at all I really ask that anyone reading this with a genuine confirmed faith pray that I receive the same. I am so tired of doubts. I am even tired of apologetic research. I just want an absolute confirmation of the truth so I don't have to live in fear anymore.
May our good God and Savior, Jesus Christ, grant that which you ask for--freedom from fear, strength to overcome doubt, and a humble faith in Him.
 
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Hey guys,

Oh how I miss being 12. I had a childlike faith that simply believed I was going to heaven, it was matter-of-fact, I strived for good morals and I easily believed everything taught in my church.

As I grew older I wanted something more real. My sister went to YWAM and said she had divine experiences seeing healings and people speaking in tongues/prophesying. I thought maybe we just don't see this stuff in Canada/US and I would need to go and see for myself. I went to a YWAM of my own and my faith was shattered from the ground up. I didn't know it was possible. I saw none of the miracles or "gifts" she was describing, only a group of people I found were somewhat deluded. I spent probably a month considering myself somewhat atheist/agnostic, which was seriously terrifying, I missed the comfort of the easy belief and I didn't know why this was happening to me.

Later on I considered myself theistic, I found the arguments of William Lane Craig/Ravi Zacharias and other apologists compelling so I believe there must be a God. Now I am committing all my time, my strength and my mind to research of apologetics, sincere prayer (I don't know why it's so difficult for me. Would you mind praying that I would be able to pray?) to find the real truth. The historicity of the bible has many valid arguments for it. When I consider all the Abrahamic faiths, true Christianity seems to be the most likely true out of all of them. It seems to stand out.

But day in and day out doubts swarm me. About whether I can even trust my own reasoning on this. About whether prayer works or does anything at all or if I am really just "tricking" my own mind into believing something that may be true or not. Christianity seems most likely out of all faiths I've researched, so really its a battle between Christianity in my mind and simply..not knowing what's true at all? I guess. It's strange but I just want to ask for prayer. I didn't think I would end this that way but if it does anything at all I really ask that anyone reading this with a genuine confirmed faith pray that I receive the same. I am so tired of doubts. I am even tired of apologetic research. I just want an absolute confirmation of the truth so I don't have to live in fear anymore.
Welcome to the forums. I hope that you will find here fellowship and support to build your faith, support you, increase your understanding, and deepen your relationship with Him.

I will pray for you.

Father, I bring trinity77 before you, and ask that You would let him have no doubts, that You would strengthen his faith, that You would surround him with those who know and love You who can guide him on his walk,and that You would make Yourself known to Him, that he might have Your peace, knowing that You are with him and love him, through Jesus Christ.
 
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Welcome. Glad you discovered Ravi. He's a sound theological teacher.

I'm also glad you saw the sham 'gifts' for what they are.

Thanks High Fidelity. I find Ravi to be such a learned and wise man. For the gifts I have a question on your personal conviction on the matter, I believe the "charismatic" gifts may have ceased after I went through this experience (although I wish they didn't, I feel like they would make it 1000x easier to have faith) but do you think any actual miracles occur today, at any time in any place?
 
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Thanks High Fidelity. I find Ravi to be such a learned and wise man. For the gifts I have a question on your personal conviction on the matter, I believe the "charismatic" gifts may have ceased after I went through this experience (although I wish they didn't, I feel like they would make it 1000x easier to have faith) but do you think any actual miracles occur today, at any time in any place?

I also believe they have ceased.

Can miracles happen? Nothing is beyond God's ability.

Do they happen? In my opinion, no. Certainly not these 'faith healers' that do it centre-stage in front of an audience that wants to believe it's true and not out on the streets healing the sick as a testament to the truth of God's Word.

John MacArthur is by far the best exegetical preacher in our time. I highly recommend you listen to some of his sermons; he has plenty on this subject.

They're all online for free at www.gty.org
 
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