The Jubilee of Moses and President Trump?

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Most of us understand how compound interest over time makes it necessary for there to be a time of forgiveness of debts/ a JUBILEE.

Leviticus 25:9

"Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land."

I believe that President Donald J. Trump has been prepared over his entire lifetime to deeply want to see that JUBILEE happens in 2017 just as predicted by Rabbi Judah ben Samuel.

Donald Trump - Wikipedia

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."Later in 1988, Trump acquired the Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, in a transaction with Merv Griffin and Resorts International.[67] The casino was opened in April 1990, and was built at a total cost of $1.1 billion, which at the time made it the most expensive casino ever built.[68][69] Financed with $675 million in junk bonds[70] at a 14% interest rate, the project entered Chapter 11 bankruptcy the following year.[71] Banks and bondholders, facing potential losses of hundreds of millions of dollars, opted to restructure the debt."

A FOURTEEN PERCENT INTEREST RATE IS UNETHICAL..... interest costs on a loan..... are a cost of doing business and are therefore INFLATIONARY...... yet supposed experts state that high interest rates are being used to curb inflation?! President Trump has known that his first bankruptcy was caused by decisions made by people whose goals do not correspond well with what the average Christian want to see happen in this world.


Heavenly Father.... in the name of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus... .we pray for you to initiate JUBILEE....... the freeing of your people from oppressive debt at this time! Amen.
 
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Here is an exceptional clear and simple article on how compound interest over time creates astonishingly high levels of debt.


The Public-Debt Problem

There is a big difference between interest rates of 6%, 10%, or 20%, when one speaks of compound interest. The following are the sums that $1.00 will amount to in 100 years, loaned at the rates of interest mentioned and compounded annually:

at 1%............................$2.75
at 2%..........................$19.25
at 3%........................$340.00
at 10%..................$13,809.00
at 12%............ $1,174,406.00
at 18%............$15,145,207.00
at 24%..........$251,799,494.00

And at 50%, it would eat up the world! There is a formula to know approximately the amount of time it will take for an amount, at compound interest, to double; it is the “Rule of 72”: You divide 72 by the interest rate. It gives you the number of years it will take for the amount to double. Thus, an interest rate of 10% will cause a loan to double in 7.2 years (72 divided by 10).

Another example of compound interest: 1 cent borrowed at 1% compound interest at the birth of Christ would amount (in 1986) to a debt of $3,821,628.40 ($3.8 million). At 2%, it is not only twice this amount that would be owed, but 314 million times this amount: 1.2 followed by 15 zeros (one billion millions of dollars!)
 
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Back in 1776, IF our Canadian ancestors had clearly understood what had really caused The American Revolutionary War........ we would not have assist Britain to try to stop America from achieving independence!

An apology to all Americans from a Canadian, and a thank you!


The History of Banking Control in the United States

We are in 1750. The United States of America does not yet exist; it is the 13 Colonies of the American continent, forming "New England", a possession of the motherland, England. Benjamin Franklin wrote about the population of that time: "Impossible to find a happier and more prosperous population on all the surface of the globe." Going over to England to represent the interests of the Colonies, Franklin was asked how he accounted for the prosperous conditions prevailing in the Colonies, while poverty was rife in the motherland:

"That is simple," Franklin replied. "In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one."

The English bankers, being informed of that, had a law passed by the British Parliament prohibiting the Colonies from issuing their own money, and ordering them to use only the gold or silver debt-money that was provided in insufficient quantity by the English bankers. The circulating medium of exchange was thus reduced by half.

"In one year," Franklin stated, "the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed."

Then the Revolutionary War was launched against England, and was followed by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. History textbooks erroneously teach that it was the tax on tea that triggered the American Revolution. But Franklin clearly stated:

"The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament: which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England, and the Revolutionary War."

The Founding Fathers of the United States, bearing all these facts in mind, and to protect themselves against the exploitation of the International Bankers, took good care to expressly declare, in the American Constitution, signed at Philadelphia in 1787, Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5:

"Congress shall have the power to coin money and to regulate the value thereof."
 
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Most of us understand how compound interest over time makes it necessary for there to be a time of forgiveness of debts/ a JUBILEE.

Leviticus 25:9

"Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land."

I believe that President Donald J. Trump has been prepared over his entire lifetime to deeply want to see that JUBILEE happens in 2017 just as predicted by Rabbi Judah ben Samuel.

Donald Trump - Wikipedia

......

A FOURTEEN PERCENT INTEREST RATE IS UNETHICAL..... interest costs on a loan..... are a cost of doing business and are therefore INFLATIONARY...... yet supposed experts state that high interest rates are being used to curb inflation?! President Trump has known that his first bankruptcy was caused by decisions made by people whose goals do not correspond well with what the average Christian want to see happen in this world.


Heavenly Father.... in the name of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus... .we pray for you to initiate JUBILEE....... the freeing of your people from oppressive debt at this time! Amen.

Praying in agreement Dennis!!!!! Father may it be so, in Jesus name, amen.
 
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President Trump has known that his first bankruptcy was caused by decisions made by people whose goals do not correspond well with what the average Christian want to see happen in this world.

Trump declared bankruptcy five (5) times leaving the lenders holding an empty bag. He would be just as glade to have our Federal Government default as well.

Stay tuned. When the Federal budget is sent to his desk to sign he will take a long vacation at his Florida golf course & by golly he just happen to forget to sign those papers or bring them to Florida for signing.

such is life

:)-
 
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Most of us understand how compound interest over time makes it necessary for there to be a time of forgiveness of debts/ a JUBILEE.
Wait ... let me max out some credit cards and mortgage a house, cars, and other toys first.

Apparently my scrimping and saving, and avoiding debt, was a failure on my part.
 
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Trump declared bankruptcy five (5) times leaving the lenders holding an empty bag. He would be just as glade to have our Federal Government default as well.

Stay tuned. When the Federal budget is sent to his desk to sign he will take a long vacation at his Florida golf course & by golly he just happen to forget to sign those papers or bring them to Florida for signing.

such is life

:)-

Do you think that the situation that he faced in 1990 with a fourteen percent interest rate on those loans was fair?

I don't.... and I believe that his bankruptcy set up President Trump to be very interested in the fact that President Abraham Lincoln saved American taxpayer FOUR BILLION Dollars in interest payments.


In 1972, the United States Treasury Department was asked to compute the amount of interest that would have been paid if that 400 million dollars would have been borrowed at interest instead of being issued by Abraham Lincoln. They did some computations, and a few weeks later, the United States Treasury Department said the United States Government saved 4 billion dollars in interest because Lincoln had created his own money. So you can about imagine how much the Government has paid and how much we owe solely on the basis of interest." (Melvin Sickler)

Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy
 
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Wait ... let me max out some credit cards and mortgage a house, cars, and other toys first.

Apparently my scrimping and saving, and avoiding debt, was a failure on my part.

There were no credit cards back in the time of Moses and King Solomon but two astonishingly insightful statements were made by these two prophets.

"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

IF.... it is indeed true that human productive capability and ingenuity is pretty much beyond what any economist has been telling us........(assuming that we are basically united in agreement that a certain thing must be done)........... then.. .. could a better money supply system play a significant role in ushering in a much better world?


Ecclesiastes 10:19


"A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "

Could we deliberately turn deserts green on a large scale if we had better monetary policy?

YES!

This would certainly fit with Isaiah chapter 35.


Isaiah 35:1


The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
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vs 6

Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

Thinking about this could assist in the nations of Israel and Jordan to cooperate much more and help to make the Middle East more peaceful.


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Yes ... with a stable-valued money, one neither subject to depreciation or appreciation, would be a good start.

For many years now I have felt that time based currencies could back up the official national currency and greatly decrease the burden of social programs on government.

They did wonders in over one thousand communities during the Great Depression.


North American churches should each have their own currency!

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City in Austria Printed Local Currency

Worgl, like many other European towns and cities, was hit hard by the Great Depression. There was mass unemployment; four of the five local factories had closed, and the people were starving in the streets. Nobody had any money to buy anything. One of the features of an economic depression is that there is not enough money in circulation to ensure that people can meet their basic needs, and in the 1930s, the shortage of currency in many countries of the world became catastrophic.

The mayor of Worgl, together with local businessmen, decided to try to break this economic impasse by creating their own local currency. They printed and issued 60,000 Austrian shillings worth of local currency. These shillings could only be spent in Worgl, so they remained in the local community and were exchanged over and over again.

The positive impact was immediate and surprising to everyone. In only six weeks, unemployment disappeared, all the factories had reopened and everyone had food. For the inhabitants of Worgl, the economic depression was gone. This dramatic transformation became known as the “miracle of Worgl.” Surrounding towns, inspired by the success of Worgl, immediately started printing their own local currencies.

Sadly, the miracle did not last long. When the Austrian Central Bank heard about Worgl’s local currency, they initiated legal proceedings against the mayor and local businessmen. According to Austrian banking law, it was illegal for anyone except the Austrian Central Bank to issue money. The bank won the court case, and the mayor was ordered to shut down the local currency, which he did, under threat of imprisonment. The town then returned to the devastating economic depression of the 1930s, with all the human pain and suffering associated with this catastrophe. Factories closed, and once again, the people starved.

Alternative Currency in the U.S.

Irving Fisher, an American professor of economics at Yale University, visited Worgl before the local currency was suppressed and witnessed the ‘miracle’ firsthand. When he returned to the United States, Fisher spread the word by traveling and lecturing across the country, advocating the use of the Worgl ‘scrip’ everywhere. Inspired by his vision, hundreds of communities began issuing their own currency, and by 1934 there were over 1,000 local communities using ‘scrip’ throughout the U.S.

Every one of these communities experienced a tremendous rejuvenation of their local economies. They thrived while others suffered. Fisher then met with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, proposing the implementation of government-sanctioned local ‘scrip’ in every community in America. When FDR consulted with his top financial advisors and bankers, however, he was advised to shut all the ‘scrip’ systems down, which he did
. Instead, he borrowed large amounts of money from bankers, at interest, and used it to pay for the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and the other work-creation projects, which collectively came to be known as the ‘New Deal.’ So ended the last widespread use of a local currency within the U.S.
 
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Do you think that the situation that he faced in 1990 with a fourteen percent interest rate on those loans was fair?

If you take a loan for $millions and don't take the time to know the interest rate of the loan is a fool who likes eating egg in his face.

But then again he went bankrupt five (5) times.
fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
The sad truth is he knew he wasn't going to pay back these loans when he conned the lenders to loan him the money.
:)-
 
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The English word jubilee ultimately stems through French, Latin, and Greek from Hebrew yobhel, referring to the use of a ram's horn to announce that all debts were forgiven and slaves were freed. The concept is closely associated with liberty, freedom, rejoicing, etc; in Latin an association was made with a similar sounding word iubilare "to shout with joy", from which we get the English word jubilant.

Absolutely none of these things are things I would associate with the current resident of the white house. A man who has demonstrated an immense inability to differentiate right from wrong, truth from falsehood, whose ruling moral philosophy is narcissistic and egocentric utilitarian self-interest, "If it's good for me right now, it's good." There very well could be reason to blow a ram's horn, as a call for repentance or to signal the coming of judgment; but to signal the rejoicing that is to accompany freedom for captives and good news for the poor? In relation to this president? Not in this universe.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Good point... LOL!

I didn't understand it either until I read the article that I give the link to in post #2.
I didn't mean to suggest that I don't understand. I only meant that we don't all agree.
 
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"Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land."
I guess this is what the last trump is all about.
Jesus will set all the captives free, and cancel the New World Order. And restore a new economy based
on principles of justice and equity for all.

Yes the Day of Lord will be the year of Jubilee and all things, especially land and Israel, shall be restored.
The government shall be upon His shoulder! And He shall rule with a rod of iron.
 
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Do you think that the situation that he faced in 1990 with a fourteen percent interest rate on those loans was fair?
If Trump agreed to the loan, it was fair. If he didn't think so, he could have gone elsewhere.
 
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The English word jubilee ultimately stems through French, Latin, and Greek from Hebrew yobhel, referring to the use of a ram's horn to announce that all debts were forgiven and slaves were freed. The concept is closely associated with liberty, freedom, rejoicing, etc; in Latin an association was made with a similar sounding word iubilare "to shout with joy", from which we get the English word jubilant.

Absolutely none of these things are things I would associate with the current resident of the white house. A man who has demonstrated an immense inability to differentiate right from wrong, truth from falsehood, whose ruling moral philosophy is narcissistic and egocentric utilitarian self-interest, "If it's good for me right now, it's good." There very well could be reason to blow a ram's horn, as a call for repentance or to signal the coming of judgment; but to signal the rejoicing that is to accompany freedom for captives and good news for the poor? In relation to this president? Not in this universe.

-CryptoLutheran

A good answer indeed....... may I copy and paste your reply into this other related topic:

Pope Francis, President Trump, 4.3 Trillion Petro-Dollars and JUBILEE!
 
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JUBILEE happens in 2017 just as predicted by Rabbi Judah ben Samuel.

Well, the Jubilee is this year. There is another teaching out there that is kind of interesting.


I seriously don't know what to make of it and I doubt it has a lot to do with Trump. But there could be something about to happen this fall. I have no idea what it is, or even if it will happen, but it would involve Israel.
 
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