What foods does the Father want us to eat?

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Many after drinking the old wine don't want the new, for they say: the old is better
Luke5:39

The 'new' as you put it came with Jesus. It's called the New Covenant. Obviously as you believe in the old laws you must also believe that Jesus was not the Messiah.
 
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The 'new' as you put it came with Jesus. It's called the New Covenant. Obviously as you believe in the old laws you must also believe that Jesus was not the Messiah.
I was supporting you!!!!!

Many after partaking of the old covenant didn't want the new covenant, for they say: the old covenant is better
 
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I was supporting you!!!!!

Many after partaking of the old covenant didn't want the new covenant, for they say: the old covenant is better

Sorry, I misunderstood
 
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God can do what he wants, but he didn't make swine clean.
God could make pork clean, but he didn't
You should believe God. I've shown you what God says. But you reject me and you reject God...
So what are pigs good for?

Why Christians do eat pork despite its...
Why Christians do eat pork despite its...
*SNIP*
5. Pig is the most shameless animal
The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork.
Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say "you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife." If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs.......:scratch: ^_^
There are actually Jews and Muslims that raise pigs to sell for food to people.
They themselves don't eat pork......

Pig farms bloom in Muslim Morocco - Africa - World - Travel - smh.com.au
Pig farms bloom in Muslim Morocco

Shunned by most Muslim countries where pork consumption is a religious taboo, pig farming is booming in Morocco thanks to a growing tourist industry and pragmatic breeders.

"I'm a practising Muslim. I don't eat pork and I don't drink alcohol but it's just a breeding operation like any other and no imam has ever reprimanded me for it," he said of raising pigs -- whose consumption is prohibited in both Islam and Judaism...................
Morocco's swine industry comprises some 5,000 pigs raised on seven farms located near Agadir, Casablanca and the north-central city of Taza. The breeders include a Christian, two Jews and four Muslims.................................

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Alright, so my question comes from the verse in Genesis, where Noah is instructed in what foods he is to eat.

In the following verses, in Genesis 9:3-4 I want to look at something, that I feel is very odd.

3Every moving thing (רמש - Remes: Insect) that liveth shall be meat (אכלה - Oklah: Food/nourishment) for you; even as the greenherb have I given you all things. 4But flesh (בשר - Bawar: the flesh of animals )with the life (נפש - Nephesh: the soul, or spirit)thereof, [which is] the blood (דָּם - Dawm: vital liquid flowing in animal bodies) thereof, shall ye not eat. 5And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it,and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

What's the point of this? Here, we see the actual intent of the scripture. That the Father told Noah not to eat any animals with blood in their veins, because where there is blood, there is the spirit. Insects, don't have any blood in them. The thing that makes me want to research into this more, is the fact that John the baptist, was considered by the Savior, to have been the greatest man to have been born by woman. Luke 7:28, but we also see that his entire diet consisted of only locusts, and wild honey. Matthew 3:4

Idk, I'm not denouncing everything the Father said, I just find it odd that most of our translations seem to either hide, or miss this.

P.S. I didn't include all of the "nikud" for all of these words, some I did, but some I didn't. Too lazy and I have oatmeal on the stove haha. It's just weird, and I'm hoping for some insight to this is all. Not condemning meat, or anything like that. Just something Yah showed me, and I'm looking for opinions is all.
Manna and occasionally pigeons.
 
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The 'new' as you put it came with Jesus. It's called the New Covenant. Obviously as you believe in the old laws you must also believe that Jesus was not the Messiah.

He was the messiah, but he himself tells us he didn't remove the law. He did away with the curse of the law - being forever disconnected from YHWH, and what that inherently means: death.
 
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So Jesus is not God, the Messiah? That's what you just said!
I believe Jesus is the Messiah; the Son of God. I do not believe that the Messiah is/was the Most High God. I believe he is the only begotten son of the Most High God.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 20:30-31 KJV
And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Matthew 16:13-17
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Messiah, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

John 11:21-27
Then said Martha unto Jesus, Master, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee.
Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believest thou this?
She saith unto him, Yea, Master: I believe that thou art the Messiah, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

Matthew 27:54
He trusts in God. Let God deliver Him now if He wants Him. For He(Jesus) said, 'I am the Son of God.

John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Messiah, whom thou hast sent.

1 Timothy 1:17 NLT
All honor and glory to God forever and ever! He is the eternal King, the unseen one who never dies; he alone is God. Amen.

Psalm 86:10
For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

Isaiah 37:16 NLT
O LORD of Heaven's Armies, God of Israel, you are enthroned between the mighty cherubim! You alone are God of all the kingdoms of the earth. You alone created the heavens and the earth.

I confess that Yahushua of Nazareth, who most people call Jesus, is the Messiah, the Son of the Living God. And Yahushua is Master.
 
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I believe Jesus is the Messiah; the Son of God. I do not believe that the Messiah is/was the Most High God. I believe he is the only begotten son of the Most High God...............................

I confess that Yahushua of Nazareth, who most people call Jesus, is the Messiah, the Son of the Living God. And Yahushua is Master.
Me too...........

Matthews 23:
34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth,.......... 36Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.

37Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you,....

Out with the OLD, in with NEW......AMEN!

Rev 6:10 and they were crying with a great voice, saying, 'Till when, O Master, the Holy and the True, dost Thou not judge and take vengeance of our blood from those dwelling upon the land?
Rev 18:19
and they did cast dust upon their heads, and were crying out, weeping and sorrowing, saying, Woe, woe, the great city! in which were made rich all having ships in the sea, out of her costliness -- for in one hour was she desolated.

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
The Destruction Of JERUSALEM
An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY:

.........In executing the command of Titus, relative to the demolition of Jerusalem, the Roman soldiers not only threw down the buildings, but even dug up their foundations, and so completely levelled the whole circuit of the city, that a stranger would scarcely have known that it had ever been inhabited by human beings. Thus was this great City, which only five months before, had been crowded with nearly two millions of people, who gloried in its impregnable strength, entirely depopulated, and levelled with the ground.
 
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Alright, so my question comes from the verse in Genesis, where Noah is instructed in what foods he is to eat.

In the following verses, in Genesis 9:3-4 I want to look at something, that I feel is very odd.

3Every moving thing (רמש - Remes: Insect) that liveth shall be meat (אכלה - Oklah: Food/nourishment) for you; even as the greenherb have I given you all things. 4But flesh (בשר - Bawar: the flesh of animals )with the life (נפש - Nephesh: the soul, or spirit)thereof, [which is] the blood (דָּם - Dawm: vital liquid flowing in animal bodies) thereof, shall ye not eat. 5And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it,and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

What's the point of this? Here, we see the actual intent of the scripture. That the Father told Noah not to eat any animals with blood in their veins, because where there is blood, there is the spirit. Insects, don't have any blood in them. The thing that makes me want to research into this more, is the fact that John the baptist, was considered by the Savior, to have been the greatest man to have been born by woman. Luke 7:28, but we also see that his entire diet consisted of only locusts, and wild honey. Matthew 3:4

Idk, I'm not denouncing everything the Father said, I just find it odd that most of our translations seem to either hide, or miss this.

P.S. I didn't include all of the "nikud" for all of these words, some I did, but some I didn't. Too lazy and I have oatmeal on the stove haha. It's just weird, and I'm hoping for some insight to this is all. Not condemning meat, or anything like that. Just something Yah showed me, and I'm looking for opinions is all.
Hello Devin P.

John 6:35
Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst."
 
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Has anybody found NT verses that say anything about people eating what God
first said in Leviticus 11 was unclean?

I've found that even after Jesus was resurrected and spent time with the disciples
they all ate like fish, honeycomb and bread...no mention of them having shrimp,
lizard, no type of pork, no hawk, vulture etc. I haven't found any mention of other
believers in the NT eating unclean stuff yet...I will continue looking
 
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Has anybody found NT verses that say anything about people eating what God
first said in Leviticus 11 was unclean?

I've found that even after Jesus was resurrected and spent time with the disciples
they all ate like fish, honeycomb and bread...no mention of them having shrimp,
lizard, no type of pork, no hawk, vulture etc. I haven't found any mention of other
believers in the NT eating unclean stuff yet...I will continue looking
Perhaps you could find a verse in the NT that states gentile converts must abstain from eating the Levitical unclean foods. I can't find one.
In fact, the leaders of the Christian church didn't ask gentiles to abstain from such food( Acts ch15)
Were they in error?
 
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God can do what he wants, but he didn't make swine clean.

God could make pork clean, but he didn't

Why do you dispute the clear words of the Gospel?

For that matter, what have you got against pork?
 
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Why do you dispute the clear words of the Gospel?

For that matter, what have you got against pork?
What am I disputing in regards to the gospel?

God said don't eat swine, that it's abominable(detestable) to him[Leviticus 11, Isaiah 66:17]. That pretty much sums it up. Christ reaffirmed God's commands - in fact, he fully preached them during his time here on earth[Matthew 5:17]

Therefore, I don't eat pork.

And let me say, I don't hate pigs. Piglets are very cute. But they are unclean and God said not to eat them(and other unclean animals).
 
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What am I disputing in regards to the gospel?

God said don't eat swine, that it's abominable(detestable) to him[Leviticus 11, Isaiah 66:17]. That pretty much sums it up. Christ reaffirmed God's commands - in fact, he fully preached them during his time here on earth[Matthew 5:17]

Therefore, I don't eat pork.

And let me say, I don't hate pigs. Piglets are very cute. But they are unclean and God said not to eat them(and other unclean animals).

Jesus did indeed fulfill the law. But, He also made a new Covenant!

The OT said an eye for an eye etc. Jesus said to turn the other cheek!

He also said that it's not what goes into man's mouth that defiles him but only that which comes out of his mouth!
 
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Has anybody found NT verses that say anything about people eating what God
first said in Leviticus 11 was unclean?

I've found that even after Jesus was resurrected and spent time with the disciples
they all ate like fish, honeycomb and bread...no mention of them having shrimp,
lizard, no type of pork, no hawk, vulture etc. I haven't found any mention of other
believers in the NT eating unclean stuff yet...I will continue looking
Peter had a vision from God that used clean and unclean animals in Acts 10:9-16

Bare with me.

You see, at that time, the Yahudim(the Jews) had a tradition that they would not eat clean animals that had been around unclean animals. To them, the animal would be considered common, or profane - the opposite of holy or set-apart.

The Yahudim would not associate with Gentiles for A similar reason - they thought Gentiles were unclean/common and should not be around them. This stems from tradition, not the Scriptures.

In the vision, Peter saw a sheet with clean and unclean animals on it. The voice told Peter to eat. Up to this point, Peter had been obeying the commandments in Leviticus 11 and not eaten anything unclean. Notice Peter also said he had not eaten anything "common". In the law of Moses, It's not a sin to eat clean animals that have been around unclean animals.

Obviously Peter knew not to eat the animals that were unclean(sin), but he rejected eating the clean animals too because they had been around the unclean animals. This concept of rejecting clean animals that had been around unclean animals came from man made tradition.

Now, the thing is, the vision was being used to show Peter to accept the Gentiles who were coming into the faith, because God had cleansed them, and was going to be using them. Remember, it was a tradition to stay away from the Gentiles. The Israelites are supposed to be priests & a light for the whole world!

When Peter was told to eat, he knew not to eat the unclean, but it was okay to eat the clean animals that had been around the unclean animals. However, Peter rejected the clean animals too!

God was using this symbolic vision to show Peter that he should not be calling Gentiles who are coming into faith in Messiah "unclean".

Notice the voice said " do not call what God has cleansed "common". I'm paraphrasing. Also, Peter didn't even eat anything. Remember, this was a vision teaching him a significant spiritual point.

When you read Acts 10 in its entirety, you see that Peter wasn't even sure what the vision meant at first.

In Acts 10:28, Peter explains his vision:

And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Yahudim to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Notice that Peter did not say "God showed me that now it's okay to eat unclean animals"

Peter's vision is so commonly taught way out of context to promote eating unclean animals like swine, but that's not what the vision was about at all

God bless
 
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Jesus did indeed fulfill the law. But, He also made a new Covenant!

The OT said an eye for an eye etc. Jesus said to turn the other cheek!

He also said that it's not what goes into man's mouth that defiles him but only that which comes out of his mouth!

Yes, Christ came to renew the covenant with Israel. Not with Gentiles. We are a part of Israel & the covenant with Israel through Christ.

when Christ said he came to fulfill the law, in context, he meant fully teach it and preach it and reveal it fully. Not do away with it so we can eat swine ;)

In the sermon on the mount, Christ is teaching the commandments properly.

The command of "eye for an eye" was being used out of context at that time to teach personal retaliation and personal vengeance. God says vengeance is HIS, do not repay!

The command of eye for an eye still applies, BUT, only in the proper situation. If someone does you wrong, we are supposed to let God handle it.


And Christ was not talking about eating swine. The Pharisees believed that not washing your hands before you ate defiled you. God never said that. We must understand what Christ is saying in context.

Christ wasn't even talking about food.

God said in Leviticus 11 to not defile ourselves with unclean animals like swine.(commandment)

He never said don't defile yourselves by not washing your hands before you eat(not a commandment)
 
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