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That is definitely the case and more reason not to judge people regarding the Sabbaths as Paul stated.
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[POLL] Should Christians Rest and Keep Holy the Sabbath Day?
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That is definitely the case and more reason not to judge people regarding the Sabbaths as Paul stated.
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Indeed. So I would say "beware" to anyone who's thinking about throwing out the practice of the Sabbath day before that final Sabbath arrives. We need to be reminded of it each week.
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Which day is considered the Sabbath day? And at one time does it start?
[perhaps you should have added "other" as an option?]
That's what we redneck Christians do in God's country of Texas..........
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On a deeper level, the Sabbath day prophetically foreshadowed the Millennium. The question that runs through my mind is what are the ramifications. The Millennium comes after the harvest, when God and Christ rest from their work of gathering souls for the kingdom, so this may be the primary meditation in observing the Sabbath, if we choose to.
But on an even deeper level, the end-time harvest will be a harvest of the word, or rather the seed of the word of God grown to full fruition in the earth (Mark 4:26-29). So observance of the Sabbath is essentially a celebration of the harvest of the word, which is why the rabbis met on Sabbath days to discuss and share wisdom and insights with one another the Lord was giving them.
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The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week, Friday sundown to Saturday sundown.
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Should indicates a requirement of some sort. If there's a requirement, then there is some sort of repercussion if we do not do it. So no, we should not.
However, you have the liberty to do so if you wish.
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I an amillennialist, meaning I think the Millennium of 1000 years is symbolic. I think 2 Peter 3:8 applies here.
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Yes, in that, we should not judge each other by it as Paul stated.
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I don't understand how the Sabbath, as one of the 10 commandments, gets pushed off into Christian liberty territory.
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I think he is basing this on grace and the fact that Paul stated not to judge each other by the Sabbaths.
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If you're referring to Colossians 2:16, it is not likely that Paul is talking about the weekly worship gathering here. He is most likely talking about celebrating the Hebrew festivals.
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Well that's cool. Like I said, I'm not one for heated debates, and this one usually turns ugly. The last one was bad, and frequently insulting. It's a credit to all involved this time around that it seems to be relaxed and, dare I say it... Christian, lol.
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Hi guys well to be honest this poll does not prove anything. It is only the Word of God that matters. The 7th Day Sabbath has never been a Shadow of anything. Without taking away from this OP please see the thread on Col 2:14-17 PARTS 1-5 here
A Shadow is part of an unfinished work and the 7th Day Sabbath of creation has never been one.
GEN 2
1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Scripture context points:
* God finished all the work of creation on the 7th Day of the week (v1)
* God ended His Work on the 7th Day of the creation week and rested from all His work of creation, it was completed no more work required (v2)
* God blessed the 7th Day and set it apart as a holy day as a memorial of creation
Critical questions and answers:
When was God’s 7th Day Sabbath made, before the fall of mankind or after the fall of mankind?
It was made BEFORE the fall of mankind at the end of the creation week on the 7th Day and was the result of a FINISHED work!
Was God’s work of creation a FINISHED WORK or an UNFUNISHED WORK?
The 7th Day Sabbath was the result of the FINISHED AND COMPLETED WORK of creation!
When were God’s Laws and the laws of Moses given, before the fall of mankind or after the fall of mankind? Obviously AFTER the fall of mankind (Ex 20:1-17, Lev 23:1-44, etc) they were part of God’s plan of salvation.
So in summary the 7th Day Sabbath is a memorial of the FINISHED work of creation and if it is a FINISHED work and a memorial of God’s creation that was given BEFORE the FALL of mankind before SIN had entered the world and before the plan of salvation was given to FALLEN man. If it was a part of a FINISHED work then it cannot be a Shadow of salvation because a Shadow was part of an UNFINISHED work given in the laws of Moses and was given AFTER the fall of mankind where the Sabbath was made before the fall.
In Christ Always!
A Shadow is part of an unfinished work and the 7th Day Sabbath of creation has never been one.
GEN 2
1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Scripture context points:
* God finished all the work of creation on the 7th Day of the week (v1)
* God ended His Work on the 7th Day of the creation week and rested from all His work of creation, it was completed no more work required (v2)
* God blessed the 7th Day and set it apart as a holy day as a memorial of creation
Critical questions and answers:
When was God’s 7th Day Sabbath made, before the fall of mankind or after the fall of mankind?
It was made BEFORE the fall of mankind at the end of the creation week on the 7th Day and was the result of a FINISHED work!
Was God’s work of creation a FINISHED WORK or an UNFUNISHED WORK?
The 7th Day Sabbath was the result of the FINISHED AND COMPLETED WORK of creation!
When were God’s Laws and the laws of Moses given, before the fall of mankind or after the fall of mankind? Obviously AFTER the fall of mankind (Ex 20:1-17, Lev 23:1-44, etc) they were part of God’s plan of salvation.
So in summary the 7th Day Sabbath is a memorial of the FINISHED work of creation and if it is a FINISHED work and a memorial of God’s creation that was given BEFORE the FALL of mankind before SIN had entered the world and before the plan of salvation was given to FALLEN man. If it was a part of a FINISHED work then it cannot be a Shadow of salvation because a Shadow was part of an UNFINISHED work given in the laws of Moses and was given AFTER the fall of mankind where the Sabbath was made before the fall.
In Christ Always!
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That is what I am referring to. It is a hot topic. I think he was referring to the weekly Sabbaths as well. I don't think this verse takes away the need to observe the Sabbath though just that we should not judge others by it.
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Yeah, I have been in some debates on this and they can get heated. Christians seem to have a strong opinion on this one way or the other and both have verses to quote to support their arguments so it can be a difficult one.
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Out of curiosity, Tree of Life (and I'm genuinely curious, not just being argumentative), who do you feel are the antagonists in Colossians? The most common interpretation is that they were proponents of some form of amalgamation between Essenism and Gnosticism, but I see absolutely no evidence of Gnosticism present in the letter. They were straight up, 100% Essenes, which would mean they would have been extremely zealous over the seventh day Sabbath and how it was being observed.
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There are things about the Sabbath command that I won't judge and things I will judge. I think the Sabbath command included ceremonial, moral, and typical aspects. Many ceremonial aspects have terminated in Christ but there remains moral and typical aspects. The Sabbath also contained rest elements and worship elements. It was not only a day of rest, but a day of holy convocation.
So I won't judge you if you practice the Sabbath on Saturday vs Sunday (vs Wednesday for that matter).
But if you do not attend worship once per week I will judge you for that.
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My view on the Colossian heresy is that they were Judaizers. Gnosticism arrives later than the NT and the NT nowhere mentions the Essenes. The Essenes were a remote group who were isolated from others and didn't live anywhere near Colossae.
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