What foods does the Father want us to eat?

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I'm only comparing what you're saying to what God, the Messiah & the Apostles say regarding eating swine and other unclean animals. my statements are being made in light of what is revealed in the Scriptures. I am not at fault if your doctrine does not hold up to scripture.

Up to this point in the conversation you have not provided (1) single verse by an Apostle which backs up what your saying.
You have posted Lev. 11 about 7 times and Jer. 1 time

Haven't seen any light of Scriptures from you yet.

Would you please provide 1 verse where Jesus speaks of eating swing?

Your New Testament evidence from any of the Apostles, and Jesus is lacking.
 
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Alright, so my question comes from the verse in Genesis, where Noah is instructed in what foods he is to eat.

In the following verses, in Genesis 9:3-4 I want to look at something, that I feel is very odd.

3Every moving thing (רמש - Remes: Insect) that liveth shall be meat (אכלה - Oklah: Food/nourishment) for you; even as the greenherb have I given you all things. 4But flesh (בשר - Bawar: the flesh of animals )with the life (נפש - Nephesh: the soul, or spirit)thereof, [which is] the blood (דָּם - Dawm: vital liquid flowing in animal bodies) thereof, shall ye not eat. 5And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it,and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

What's the point of this? Here, we see the actual intent of the scripture. That the Father told Noah not to eat any animals with blood in their veins, because where there is blood, there is the spirit. Insects, don't have any blood in them. The thing that makes me want to research into this more, is the fact that John the baptist, was considered by the Savior, to have been the greatest man to have been born by woman. Luke 7:28, but we also see that his entire diet consisted of only locusts, and wild honey. Matthew 3:4

Idk, I'm not denouncing everything the Father said, I just find it odd that most of our translations seem to either hide, or miss this.

P.S. I didn't include all of the "nikud" for all of these words, some I did, but some I didn't. Too lazy and I have oatmeal on the stove haha. It's just weird, and I'm hoping for some insight to this is all. Not condemning meat, or anything like that. Just something Yah showed me, and I'm looking for opinions is all.

Acts 10:12-15

12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

We are not under Law Luke 16:16

Jesus himself said in parable of great pearl , that he gave everything even his life , to purchase this pearl . Jew who purchased great pearl , but pearl is not kosher for Jews .
 
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[for me anyway] it is not a scholastic endeavor of what foods we ought to receive, rather it is practical and simple with God who by His Word His Holy Spirit of Truth tells us plainly speaking through Paul saying that whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, and do not question it for conscience sake; because the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof: and in another the Spirit tells us that every foods is good if it be received with thanksgiving, because it is sanctified by the Word of God and prayer.
Altogether [for me anyway] God is trying to tell us and make us understand that whatsoever we may eat for our need and are thankful for it, is made holy by God, for all things are of Him, and it is that simple. But if we were to listen to mankind's use of knowledge, they would find endless supplies of God's provision contemptible, and unfortunately they have deceived the masses to believe them, rather than believe God.
 
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Alright, so my question comes from the verse in Genesis, where Noah is instructed in what foods he is to eat.

In the following verses, in Genesis 9:3-4 I want to look at something, that I feel is very odd.

3Every moving thing (רמש - Remes: Insect) that liveth shall be meat (אכלה - Oklah: Food/nourishment) for you; even as the greenherb have I given you all things. 4But flesh (בשר - Bawar: the flesh of animals )with the life (נפש - Nephesh: the soul, or spirit)thereof, [which is] the blood (דָּם - Dawm: vital liquid flowing in animal bodies) thereof, shall ye not eat. 5And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it,and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

What's the point of this? Here, we see the actual intent of the scripture. That the Father told Noah not to eat any animals with blood in their veins, because where there is blood, there is the spirit. Insects, don't have any blood in them. The thing that makes me want to research into this more, is the fact that John the baptist, was considered by the Savior, to have been the greatest man to have been born by woman. Luke 7:28, but we also see that his entire diet consisted of only locusts, and wild honey. Matthew 3:4

Idk, I'm not denouncing everything the Father said, I just find it odd that most of our translations seem to either hide, or miss this.

P.S. I didn't include all of the "nikud" for all of these words, some I did, but some I didn't. Too lazy and I have oatmeal on the stove haha. It's just weird, and I'm hoping for some insight to this is all. Not condemning meat, or anything like that. Just something Yah showed me, and I'm looking for opinions is all.

we have to drain the blood out, then we can eat it.

Leviticus 17:13-14
 
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What's the point of this? Here, we see the actual intent of the scripture. That the Father told Noah not to eat any animals with blood in their veins, because where there is blood, there is the spirit. Insects, don't have any blood in them. The thing that makes me want to research into this more, is the fact that John the baptist, was considered by the Savior, to have been the greatest man to have been born by woman. Luke 7:28, but we also see that his entire diet consisted of only locusts, and wild honey. Matthew 3:4
In other words, eat meat, but be sure to thoroughly drain the blood from it (see Leviticus 7:26; 17:10-14). You can read more about this by doing research on kosher meats. Here's an article about that.

The text does not say that you should avoid eating meat from animals that had blood in them, but that you should not eat meat with blood in it.
 
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there is a point in answering them, but you and I both know why you won't answer them.

Will you at least answer one of these 2 please?:

1. Do you believe God when He said it is abominable to him for us to eat pork?

2. Do you agree that both homosexuality and eating pork are abominable to God?

Well if you look in the NT the bible mentions homosexaulity as still being wrong when it defines marriage in corithians 1:7 or so as heterosexual and the passage in Romans 1:16-28


But with meat it says other things not to mention in the OT certain people had specific diets and things they could and couldn't do. Also with meat and stuff just gotta make sure the blood is drained out I believe that stems from soem scripture IDK which one though.



1 Timothy 4King James Version (KJV)
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
 
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there is a point in answering them, but you and I both know why you won't answer them.

Will you at least answer one of these 2 please?:

1. Do you believe God when He said it is abominable to him for us to eat pork?

2. Do you agree that both homosexuality and eating pork are abominable to God?
I mean if you don't want to eat meat that's fine though... you can eat it or not eat it you're choice.
 
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Alright, so my question comes from the verse in Genesis, where Noah is instructed in what foods he is to eat.

In the following verses, in Genesis 9:3-4 I want to look at something, that I feel is very odd.

3Every moving thing (רמש - Remes: Insect) that liveth shall be meat (אכלה - Oklah: Food/nourishment) for you; even as the greenherb have I given you all things. 4But flesh (בשר - Bawar: the flesh of animals )with the life (נפש - Nephesh: the soul, or spirit)thereof, [which is] the blood (דָּם - Dawm: vital liquid flowing in animal bodies) thereof, shall ye not eat. 5And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it,and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

What's the point of this? Here, we see the actual intent of the scripture. That the Father told Noah not to eat any animals with blood in their veins, because where there is blood, there is the spirit. Insects, don't have any blood in them. The thing that makes me want to research into this more, is the fact that John the baptist, was considered by the Savior, to have been the greatest man to have been born by woman. Luke 7:28, but we also see that his entire diet consisted of only locusts, and wild honey. Matthew 3:4

Idk, I'm not denouncing everything the Father said, I just find it odd that most of our translations seem to either hide, or miss this.

P.S. I didn't include all of the "nikud" for all of these words, some I did, but some I didn't. Too lazy and I have oatmeal on the stove haha. It's just weird, and I'm hoping for some insight to this is all. Not condemning meat, or anything like that. Just something Yah showed me, and I'm looking for opinions is all.

Hi devin,

One of the warnings of the Scriptures is that we not get overly involved in arguments concerning what to eat or what not to eat. I think it obvious that God is ok with our eating the meat of animals. He gave fairly specific eating directives to Israel in the desert that clearly included animals with meat who had blood coursing through their veins when they were alive.

Now, you have taken that same directive given unto Noah of not eating any flesh which still has the blood in it, that God gave unto Israel, and determined that in the instructions given unto Noah, God seems to be saying that we should not eat meat. This you base on your understanding of how there must still be some small amounts of blood in the veins of even animals that have been drained. I believe that if one takes the overall instructions found in the Scriptures about eating meat, that your understanding is not the understanding that God intended for Noah, and those of us who follow after him, to understand.

So, this idea and claim that you make that translators have somehow 'hidden' or 'not understood' this concept as you see it, is quite suspect to me. There are ample evidences that God's people, the Israelites did eat meat, and that only certain meats were condemned to them. In fact, God sent Quail to feed His people while they were in the desert. Do birds not have blood or did God cause Israel to not eat properly?

When the godly visitors came to Abraham in the desert to warn him of the impending destruction of the cities of the plain, Abraham invited them to stay and rest and eat. He then gave them water to drink and both bread and meat to eat. I don't find any note of condemnation brought against him for this effort and it does say that the men ate.

So, I hear your theological treatise regarding this issue, but I think you're not understanding the intent of the words spoken to Noah correctly. There are just so very, very many places in the Scriptures where we find fairly obvious examples to show that it isn't.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted
 
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I don't believe that we can't eat meat. I just found that the word being translated to mean insect was interesting - especially given the meaning of the other words I linked the translations of. That and I thought the connection was interesting what with John being considered so important by Yahshua, and also with what the book of Enoch says (it doesn't ban meat, it's a long story that I'm not gonna get in to, but it doesn't ban meat). I think we can eat meat, and like I said in the OP, I'm not condemning it's use, I just thought it was worth a look and wanted some opinions. Especially with the connection to John the baptist. Besides, there's another word that also means insect in hebrew.
 
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I do however believe that Yahshua, the disciples, and YHWH Himself do not want us eating unclean meat.

YHWH does not change. Therefore, what displeased YHWH in the beginning, displeased YHWH now. What once was seen as an abomination by Him, will not be seen as acceptable just because of forgiveness.

Israel was promised a savior, Yahshua is that savior. He is the root of the good olive tree. That olive tree is Israel. We're (because of faith) grafted into that said olive tree. Making no distinction between Jews or Greeks (Gentiles) in Yahshua.

Yahshua is a shepherd, and He Himself even tells us that He only comes for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 15:24

The disciples don't mention clean and unclean meats, because they're Jewish, to them it's basic knowledge. They don't write to the gentile churches regarding them, because again, they are Jewish, and taught them how to live. If you teach first graders the alphabet, when they're then in 4th grade, you don't waste time teaching them the alphabet again, you just give them books to read.

Before you read this verse, realize that he wrote to gentile churches, that lived amongst and were surrounded by - gentiles. They were being judged BY gentiles. I will highlight certain words and talk more on them.
In Colossians 2:18, He says: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Meat: They were gentiles, living amongst other gentiles. Why would gentiles then judge them according to what meat they would eat? Gentiles don't care. They eat whatever they want. They'd only be judging if by being a Gentile believer, they DIDN'T eat certain meats.

Drink: For pretty much every gentile celebration, not only is and was it rooted in paganism, but there was the use of MUCH alcohol. The feast of saturnalia being one example (the origin of christmas). They had the feast of saturnalia at this time, and had it for quite a long time. There were drunken orgies in the streets, mobs would kill people, and you could get away with killing or maiming people without punishment. There's much more, but it's not the point. And yes, it's the origin of Christmas. Christmas was actually banned in the US early on in it's establishment because of the dangers the festival posed. I digress though.

Holyday: Can man make a day holy? No. YHWH and YHWH alone makes things holy. He made His days holy, for His children (Israel) to keep, "for ever". His Moadim (holy days)

New Moon: The gentiles observed observed a calendar that didn't line up with that of YHWH's calendar. As He states in Genesis at creation, the sun moon, and stars will be for signs of times for His people. Israel was, and is to have a new month, at each "new moon". The "new moon" is literally the start of a new month in their calendar. The gentiles, didn't have this. We still don't. I digress. The important one however, is the next word Paul mentions.

Sabbaths: Note, it's plural. Israel, didn't just have one Sabbath to observe. There are several throughout the year, and this is something that gentiles did NOT observe, and we still don't.


If Paul didn't know, and didn't understand that the people he was writing to were his brothers in Yahshua, and thereby Israel, there'd be no point to write about any of the things I highlighted. Being as, gentiles didn't observe new moons, sabbaths, holy days, and wouldn't have judged them regarding their eating of meats and drinks anyway. Unless they weren't partaking of meat and drink, in that case the gentiles they were living amongst WOULD have judged them.

Just as YHWH mentions in the OT, strangers that wish to reside among Israel, can do so. Given, they are circumcised (physical back then, spiritual and of the heart now) and follow his Torah. We don't follow the Torah FOR salvation. It's not FOR salvation, it's BECAUSE of salvation. His laws are written on our hearts. His laws, can't be written on your heart, if you don't know, and don't desire to follow them. Makes no sense. That, and circumcision was what showed that they were meant to follow the Torah. If we're then circumcised by the heart, and inwardly Jews, how then do you all not see this connection?

Ignore the OP, I just thought it was neat considering that the word could be used to translate into insect, and the meanings of the other words as well. Like I said, I was in no way condemning eating meat, and just wanted a different perspective. I like looking into things a lot. Probably more than I should, but I digress. Food and drink, is not the kingdom of heaven, I agree. But, YHWH himself says that He will destroy those who eat swine flesh in the time of judgement. In the time of judgement, there's no mention of grace overlooking that. If you desire to eat swines flesh, more than you desire to obey His commands, His law isn't written on your heart.
 
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Up to this point in the conversation you have not provided (1) single verse by an Apostle which backs up what your saying.
You have posted Lev. 11 about 7 times and Jer. 1 time

Haven't seen any light of Scriptures from you yet.

Would you please provide 1 verse where Jesus speaks of eating swing?

Your New Testament evidence from any of the Apostles, and Jesus is lacking.
First and foremost, we have God's word that eating swine is detestable/abomination to God in Leviticus 11. The challenge for people is to prove the Messiah and Apostles taught contrary to what God revealed to the Israelites. We have to make sure that what they taught lines up with what God told the Israelites through Moses and the other prophets

Homosexuality is also considered detestable/an abomination. Most honest Christian's would acknowledge that homosexuality is detestable to God. God said it was in Leviticus 18:22

Any verses that people usually take out of context to suggest that the Messiah or the Apostles taught that it was now okay to eat unclean animals are easily placed back in context

1 Timothy 4:3-6 for example

a closer look at the Greek word for "meats" in verse 3 shows that the meats people are commanding others to abstain from are those that are clean and acceptable to eat according to Leviticus 11

It's a doctrine of devils to teach people they shouldn't eat the animals God called clean in Leviticus 11. It's okay to eat clean animals. It's not okay to eat unclean animals

When Messiah and the apostles talk about eating meat, they're only talking about the CLEAN animals in Leviticus 11. Same for Israelites. They understood that swine is not food. It's wrong to command people to abstain from clean meats! God didn't say to do that. But God did say NOT to eat unclean meats. The apostles and Messiah would NOT teach to do the things God said NOT to do!

Remember, the Messiah didn't come to abolish the law, He came to fully preach it and teach it and expound on it. He was upholding the law and commandments through what He taught Matthew 5:17

1 Timothy 4:5 references the word of God and prayer.

Swine is not sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Leviticus 11 shows us which animals/meats are sanctified by the word of God.

You can't just pray over swine and pretend it's sanctified, especially when God has made it clear that eating swine is an abomination to him.

Animals like cows and lambs and goats are sanctified by the word of God because they are clean and acceptable to eat according to Leviticus 11

The animals that God considers clean and "food" are very different from what the world thinks is clean and is food.
 
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I do however believe that Yahshua, the disciples, and YHWH Himself do not want us eating unclean meat.

YHWH does not change. Therefore, what displeased YHWH in the beginning, displeased YHWH now. What once was seen as an abomination by Him, will not be seen as acceptable just because of forgiveness.

Israel was promised a savior, Yahshua is that savior. He is the root of the good olive tree. That olive tree is Israel. We're (because of faith) grafted into that said olive tree. Making no distinction between Jews or Greeks (Gentiles) in Yahshua.

Yahshua is a shepherd, and He Himself even tells us that He only comes for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 15:24

The disciples don't mention clean and unclean meats, because they're Jewish, to them it's basic knowledge. They don't write to the gentile churches regarding them, because again, they are Jewish, and taught them how to live. If you teach first graders the alphabet, when they're then in 4th grade, you don't waste time teaching them the alphabet again, you just give them books to read.

Before you read this verse, realize that he wrote to gentile churches, that lived amongst and were surrounded by - gentiles. They were being judged BY gentiles. I will highlight certain words and talk more on them.
In Colossians 2:18, He says: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Meat: They were gentiles, living amongst other gentiles. Why would gentiles then judge them according to what meat they would eat? Gentiles don't care. They eat whatever they want. They'd only be judging if by being a Gentile believer, they DIDN'T eat certain meats.

Drink: For pretty much every gentile celebration, not only is and was it rooted in paganism, but there was the use of MUCH alcohol. The feast of saturnalia being one example (the origin of christmas). They had the feast of saturnalia at this time, and had it for quite a long time. There were drunken orgies in the streets, mobs would kill people, and you could get away with killing or maiming people without punishment. There's much more, but it's not the point. And yes, it's the origin of Christmas. Christmas was actually banned in the US early on in it's establishment because of the dangers the festival posed. I digress though.

Holyday: Can man make a day holy? No. YHWH and YHWH alone makes things holy. He made His days holy, for His children (Israel) to keep, "for ever". His Moadim (holy days)

New Moon: The gentiles observed observed a calendar that didn't line up with that of YHWH's calendar. As He states in Genesis at creation, the sun moon, and stars will be for signs of times for His people. Israel was, and is to have a new month, at each "new moon". The "new moon" is literally the start of a new month in their calendar. The gentiles, didn't have this. We still don't. I digress. The important one however, is the next word Paul mentions.

Sabbaths: Note, it's plural. Israel, didn't just have one Sabbath to observe. There are several throughout the year, and this is something that gentiles did NOT observe, and we still don't.


If Paul didn't know, and didn't understand that the people he was writing to were his brothers in Yahshua, and thereby Israel, there'd be no point to write about any of the things I highlighted. Being as, gentiles didn't observe new moons, sabbaths, holy days, and wouldn't have judged them regarding their eating of meats and drinks anyway. Unless they weren't partaking of meat and drink, in that case the gentiles they were living amongst WOULD have judged them.

Just as YHWH mentions in the OT, strangers that wish to reside among Israel, can do so. Given, they are circumcised (physical back then, spiritual and of the heart now) and follow his Torah. We don't follow the Torah FOR salvation. It's not FOR salvation, it's BECAUSE of salvation. His laws are written on our hearts. His laws, can't be written on your heart, if you don't know, and don't desire to follow them. Makes no sense. That, and circumcision was what showed that they were meant to follow the Torah. If we're then circumcised by the heart, and inwardly Jews, how then do you all not see this connection?

Ignore the OP, I just thought it was neat considering that the word could be used to translate into insect, and the meanings of the other words as well. Like I said, I was in no way condemning eating meat, and just wanted a different perspective. I like looking into things a lot. Probably more than I should, but I digress. Food and drink, is not the kingdom of heaven, I agree. But, YHWH himself says that He will destroy those who eat swine flesh in the time of judgement. In the time of judgement, there's no mention of grace overlooking that. If you desire to eat swines flesh, more than you desire to obey His commands, His law isn't written on your heart.
a closer look at Colossians 2 will show that Paul was telling them not to let men pass judgement on them for keeping those things - and that those things ARE a shadow of things to come, not were a shadow :)

It's a revelation once you realize Paul wasn't teaching people to disobey God's commandments. HalleluYah

And you are right: when Israelites talk about food, particularly animals/meats, it's already understood they're not talking about pork

In America, we have a phrase that says "what's already understood doesn't have to be explained". The apostles and followers of of Messiah already understood that we shouldn't eat unclean animals, and didn't need to expound on it over and over
 
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Up to this point in the conversation you have not provided (1) single verse by an Apostle which backs up what your saying.
You have posted Lev. 11 about 7 times and Jer. 1 time

Haven't seen any light of Scriptures from you yet.

Would you please provide 1 verse where Jesus speaks of eating swing?

Your New Testament evidence from any of the Apostles, and Jesus is lacking.

This is just an addition to what Dkh587 posted.

Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

That was a prophet, prophesying about judgement.
 
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I mean if you don't want to eat meat that's fine though... you can eat it or not eat it you're choice.
I'm okay with eating clean animals. God told us it's okay to eat clean animals.

It's not fine with God for us to be eating unclean animals such as swine & shellfish Leviticus 11. It's detestable to him, just like homosexuality.
 
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Swine is not food - it is unclean.

Uncleanliness is a state of being. It is not actually something tangible. It is also not universally applicable since it finds meaning in mutable boundaries.

Anything that can be eaten is food. Swine was just "unclean food" for the Jews. However, the entire Mosaic Law, with all its regulations, has been fulfilled. Christians are no longer under its jurisdiction.

Colossians 2:16a and 2:20-22
Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink...

If with Christ you died to the elemental principals of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations - “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used) - according to human precepts and teachings?
 
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I don't believe that we can't eat meat. I just found that the word being translated to mean insect was interesting - especially given the meaning of the other words I linked the translations of. That and I thought the connection was interesting what with John being considered so important by Yahshua, and also with what the book of Enoch says (it doesn't ban meat, it's a long story that I'm not gonna get in to, but it doesn't ban meat). I think we can eat meat, and like I said in the OP, I'm not condemning it's use, I just thought it was worth a look and wanted some opinions. Especially with the connection to John the baptist. Besides, there's another word that also means insect in hebrew.

Hi devin,

Ok, I'm good with that. So, let's look at how remes is defined.

Davidson, in his Analytical Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon, defined remes as “a reptile; that which moves on the earth; ...any land animal, in opposition to fowls” (1970, p. 685b). Remes is used in a variety of ways in the Bible. In Genesis 9:3, it refers to the realm of living, moving creatures—in contrast to plants.

Strong's also gives a definition for remes that allows that the word, while it can mean creeping things such as insects, that it also can mean larger animals.

So, maybe your limiting the meaning of the word isn't the correct way to understand the use of the word. As with many words, there are often various meanings to be understood by the word. This is particularly true of Hebrew. If you've ever used a Strong's you'll find that pretty much every word that it defines has a couple of different meanings and often those meanings can be quite different and therefore, would need to be determined by context. When we do a full study on foods that God seems ok with people eating, I think there is ample contextual evidence that God's ok with our eating meat and He very likely didn't intend to impress upon Noah that he had to eat bugs.

Therefore, I find it curious that you'd make your closing claim that this understanding that you have has somehow been hidden or misunderstood by translators.

Yes, John did eat a strange diet. Yes, Jesus did say that he was the greatest among those born of women, which would include even himself. Jesus had very high regard for John. If we take his statement as it stands, in Jesus' estimation John was even greater than Mary and yet we have whole religious organizations that place Mary well above John. However, as we read the completion of that claim, we find that the point was that in the kingdom of heaven we will all be greater than John.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted
 
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Wrong. Even Acts 15:20, 29 proves you are speaking falsehood here.

I think Paul is talking to those like you here.

Galatians 4:21-31
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23 But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24 Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”

28 Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30 But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31 So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.
 
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Uncleanliness is a state of being. It is not actually something tangible. It is also not universally applicable since it finds meaning in mutable boundaries.

Anything that can be eaten is food. Swine was just "unclean food" for the Jews. However, the entire Mosaic Law, with all its regulations, has been fulfilled. Christians are no longer under its jurisdiction.

Colossians 2:16a and 2:20-22
Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink...

If with Christ you died to the elemental principals of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations - “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used) - according to human precepts and teachings?
You've taken those 2 verses from Collosians out of context. A closer look at chapter 2 (in context) will reveal that Paul was telling the Collosians to not let people judge them for observing Sabbath & the feast days

God's commandments are not "elemental principals of the world". God said to not eat swine - its detestable to Him

The world teaches people to eat swine. God, the prophets, the Messiah & the Apostles did NOT teach people to eat animals that are abominable to God.
 
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