The Press Declares the Alt:Right to be Bigotted and Terrorist

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The radical left and its supporters. I could show you youtube. But I don't how how to paste.
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My father briefly fought the Nazis 75 years ago (before the was shipped around the world to fight the Japanese). There was no place in the world for Nazis then; there should be no place for them now.
 
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My father briefly fought the Nazis 75 years ago (before the was shipped around the world to fight the Japanese). There was no place in the world for Nazis then; there should be no place for them now.

It is an excuse used to promote terrorism on the western peoples.
If anyone can give me one example of this violent tight groups then do so. But you can't without going back decades. Not in a group anyway. Sometimes like all groups there is a rogue individual who comes out but not nearly as many as all other groups who promote their agendas.
Not even KKK is violent anymore or promotes violence. All they do is give ammo to the other groups.
The radicals are on the left who lie and play victims because they have been programmed like useful idiots by the ADL sponsored Dept of Indoctrination AKA Dept of Education.
 
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If the people of Charlottesville choose to remove it, that is their business, not the business of those of us who live outside of the city.

I said as much in my original post!
 
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It seems like now, even on this site, people who speak in favor of Trump are labeled as alt-right because they feel that Trump was actually a candidate of the alt-right during the election, and therefore the Trump detractors pretty much label anyone who supports Trump now with that label.

And this is WRONG! I supported Trump because I couldn't vote for a woman that feels that it is the right of all women, everywhere, to pull the still living fetus from their womb at the moment of birth and KILL it
 
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Now, to begin at the beginning, the trouble began when several states, mostly driven by politically correct citizens, demanded that the statues of various heroes of the South be taken down. That's okay. It is their state, and every citizen has the right to be heard. I may be for or against such a measure, but I am allowed to state an opinion, so that's cool.

I disagree. Historical American memorials aren’t something that should be erased just because liberals don’t like what they purport to represent. The US Civil War was a profound event in American history, and touchy-feely liberals shouldn’t have the right to demolish statues of Confederate generals because it’s the “politically correct” thing to do.

Ultimately, our history is our history, whether we agree with it or not. No matter how many liberals support the destruction of CSA landmarks, it just isn’t right. American liberals supporting the removal of Confederate statues (because they purport to represent slavery) is akin to British liberals supporting the removal of the Union Jack (British flag) from public spaces because it purports to represent a colonial empire from the past. In other words, it’s an incredibly misinformed idea.
 
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I disagree. Historical American memorials aren’t something that should be erased just because liberals don’t like what they purport to represent. The US Civil War was a profound event in American history, and touchy-feely liberals shouldn’t have the right to demolish statues of Confederate generals because it’s the “politically correct” thing to do.

Oh, I don't agree with the measure either. I am just saying that this particular statue belongs to the people of Virginia, and I am not about to protest something that doesn't belong to me.

If I had my will (and I had the money and the place to put it) I would buy the statue, have it shipped to Arizona, and put it in my back yard.
 
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The earliest third-party record of the event of Lee taking communion with a black man, suggests a different interpretation of events than "Christian love": http://civilwarmonitor.com/blog/fantasizing-lee-as-a-civil-rights-pioneer . Perhaps Lee was merely defying convention in the interest of piety. Just how much he resented the black man being at the altar is a big question mark over the incident.
 
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General Lee was a great man whose great mistake was choosing to fight for the side that 1) supported slavery and 2) lost. One of my favorite Civil War generals--George Meade--certainly kicked his butt at Gettysburg, although Lee had his way with several incompetent Northern generals.

I agree with you that North and South are both part of our history. We can't pretend that the South didn't exist or that the brave men who fought in its armies were not decent human beings who fought for a cause in which they believed. Unfortunately that seems to be what is happening now. Having said that, remember that in this case the statue is owned by the City of Charlottesville and stands on city land. It is not privately owned nor is it owned by the state or Federal government. If the people of Charlottesville choose to remove it, that is their business, not the business of those of us who live outside of the city.

THE people didn't remove it. Some of the people got the ear of the politicians.
THEY removed the statue. I don't know of any voters that actually voted for or
against Confederate statues or flags, the way things should have been done.

Then again, I don't know if I trust enough people in these states to be rational
when it comes to emotional issues.
 
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Here is an article about Stone Mountain, no video on it.

"The park's [Stone Mountain's] memorial status is protected by Georgia law, yet the carving came under attack in 2015 when a Georgia NAACP leader called for the sculpture to be sandblasted, and the Atlanta City Council passed a resolution asking Gov. Nathan Deal to appoint a study group to consider adding other significant figures, such as the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and former President Carter."
New Orleans is tearing down its Confederate monuments, but the South has plenty of others
 
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Here is an article about Stone Mountain, no video on it.

"The park's [Stone Mountain's] memorial status is protected by Georgia law, yet the carving came under attack in 2015 when a Georgia NAACP leader called for the sculpture to be sandblasted, and the Atlanta City Council passed a resolution asking Gov. Nathan Deal to appoint a study group to consider adding other significant figures, such as the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and former President Carter."
New Orleans is tearing down its Confederate monuments, but the South has plenty of others
Thanks :) I appreciate your help.

I hope they don't destroy any of it.
 
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THE people didn't remove it. Some of the people got the ear of the politicians.
THEY removed the statue. I don't know of any voters that actually voted for or
against Confederate statues or flags, the way things should have been done.

Then again, I don't know if I trust enough people in these states to be rational
when it comes to emotional issues.
Perhaps you don't understand how republican democracy works. We elect officials, they make decisions on our behalf. In this case a majority of city council voted to remove the statue.
 
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If I have posted this in the wrong forum, please move it to the correct one, thank you.

First of all, I must point out that I am horrified at the activity in Charlottesville. NOBODY on the Left, Right or Center has ANY right to kill, hurt, or in any other way injure anyone else.

Now, to begin at the beginning, the trouble began when several states, mostly driven by politically correct citizens, demanded that the statues of various heroes of the South be taken down. That's okay. It is their state, and every citizen has the right to be heard. I may be for or against such a measure, but I am allowed to state an opinion, so that's cool.

What I do have a problem with is taking down statues of General Robert E. Lee. If the PC Police want to vilify him, well, freedom of the press means that whoever owns the press has the freedom to print what they want. Robert E. Lee was a pious church man, and, notwithstanding what most web sites say, he was not in favor of slavery or secession. Before the Civil war began, he was asked to take over as Superintendent of West Point. When a Black man came to Communion (Episcopalian) after the war, Lee was the only man in the congregation to come down to the communion rail with him and kneel beside him.

He graduated #2 from West Point. When the Civil War started, he was offered several prominent posts in the Union Army. When Virginia seceded, he followed his own state into the Confederacy, even though he was opposed to the secession.

He is a historic figure, and making him an unperson will confuse all future students of the Civil War. General Grant will end up taking the surrender of this obscure Southern General that nobody knows, because he has been erased from History
A little ironic condemning a group for making broad generalisations with a broad generalisation, isn't it?
 
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Kind of a good point someone made that the confederates may have been fighting for something bad, but they still were men who had families and died. Granted the nazi soldiers don't have memorials. But then again that was also a complex situation where most germans (and other countries they conscripted soldiers from) didn't really have a choice on if they served or not.
 
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I understand wanting to take down confederate statues from their current locations. However, I feel strongly that such monuments need to be moved to museums, because I am a firm believer that people are ignorant of history. I think we need to delve further into history and why and how things occurred. This modern view of ours of projecting modern morals onto the past is extremely foolish- and history is very rarely cut and dry. In fact, this current trend of attempting to erase history is only going to be our downfall. Ignorance is always a problem.
 
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I understand wanting to take down confederate statues from their current locations. However, I feel strongly that such monuments need to be moved to museums, because I am a firm believer that people are ignorant of history. I think we need to delve further into history and why and how things occurred. This modern view of ours of projecting modern morals onto the past is extremely foolish- and history is very rarely cut and dry. In fact, this current trend of attempting to erase history is only going to be our downfall. Ignorance is always a problem.
Agreed, not only because of historic reasons but also because many of these statues are truly works of art.
 
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