COL 2:14-17 The REAL truth from God's Word

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No it does not who told you that? Where have you read in anything I have posted that says this? o_O
Maybe you have a misunderstanding. If you read my testimony I think this makes it very clear that what you say is not true don't you think? Read it again ... the section before the Counterfeit Gospel.
Oh it surely does, you are just blinded to that fact.
 
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Some people seem to think if they can quote a lot of scripture they must know the truth. The devil can quote scripture. People who didn't know God in Jesus day endlessly quoted the letter. So do jws, Mormons and Muslims, etc

Does that mean anyone that someone that knows scripture must be from the Devil? You cannot know Jesus without knowing His Word because Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1-9)
 
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Does that mean anyone that knows scripture must be from the Devil? You cannot know Jesus without knowing His Word because Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1-9)
But some people can quote the letter, without understanding the true message contained in it
 
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Oh it surely does, you are just blinded to that fact.
Oh my goodness you really do not know God's Word do you? Please tell me where I have ever said in any post or in my testimony that I believe we are saved by our works of the Law? If you cannot this is just a lie right on your part and has no basis in fact. :(
 
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Oh my goodness you really do not know God's Word do you? Please tell me where I have ever said in any post or in my testimony that I believe we are saved by our works of the Law? If you cannot this is just a lie right on your part. :(
Let's see who understands the message the letter contains

Why are sinfull passions aroused in people by the law if they live under it?
Rom7:5
 
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Let's see who understands the message the letter contains Why are sinfull passions aroused in people by the law if they live under it?
Rom7:5
Dear Friend,
Why would you expect me to answer any further questions from you when you do not answer any questions from me then accuse me of saying things that I have never said? This OP has gone way off topic time to give it a rest
 
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Dear Friend,
Why would you expect me to answer any further questions from you when you do not answer any questions from me then accuse me of saying things that I have never said?
I knew you couldn't answer it.
 
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I'm a fair guy. Quote me just one verse of scripture from anywhere in the new testament/ covenant that states gentile converts must set aside Saturday as a specific sabbath day.
Don't quote the old testament/ covenant, I'm under the new covenant.
If you can, I will go to church tomorrow!!!
 
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I'm a fair guy. Quote me just one verse of scripture from anywhere in the new testament/ covenant that states gentile converts must set aside Saturday as a specific sabbath day. Don't quote the old testament/ covenant, I'm under the new covenant.
If you can, I will go to church tomorrow!!!

Dear friend,

I share only God's Word with you. You only share your opinions. In regards to what is true and what is not only the Word of God matters. If you have something to share that is great but please use the Word of God to back up your opinions or your words have no credibility. :oldthumbsup:

Tell you what, how about I share more scripture with you if you can show me in God's Word where it says we no longer need to keep God's 7th Day Sabbath as a Holy day and we are now commanded by God to keep Sunday as a Holy day? If you cannot show me these scriptures, why do you follow the traditions and teachings of man to break the commandments of God. (Matt 15:3-9). Why do you not believe God's Word?

In Christ Always
 
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Dear friend,

I share only God's Word with you. You only share your opinion. In regards to what is true and what is not only the Word of God matters. If you have something to share that is great but please use the Word of God to back up your opinions or your words have no credibility. :oldthumbsup: Tell you what how about I share more scripture with you if you can show me in God's Word where it says we no longer need to keep God's 7th Day Sabbath as a Holy day and we are now commanded by God to keep Sunday as a Holy day? If you cannot why do you follow the traditions and teachings of man to break the commandments of God. (Matt 15:3-9). Deal? :D

In Christ Always
You have not one scripture from anywhere in the new testament/ covenant that states gentile must observe a specific seventh day sabbath do you.

One man considers one day more sacred/ holy than another, another man considers everyday alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind
Rom14:5

Where's yours from the NC?
 
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What Jesus said to his disciples is true for us as well. The Word speaks.

The disciples were not Christians. They were under the Old Covenant. IF you really believe that what Jesus said to his disciples is true for us as well. then when you leave your house do not take gold, silver, or copper in your belt, no bag for the journey, or an extra tunic, or sandals or staff, for the worker deserves his provisions. Whenever you enter a town or village, find out who is worthy there and stay with them until you leave.
 
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Dear friend,

I share only God's Word with you. You only share your opinions. In regards to what is true and what is not only the Word of God matters. If you have something to share that is great but please use the Word of God to back up your opinions or your words have no credibility. :oldthumbsup:

Tell you what, how about I share more scripture with you if you can show me in God's Word where it says we no longer need to keep God's 7th Day Sabbath as a Holy day and we are now commanded by God to keep Sunday as a Holy day? If you cannot show me these scriptures, why do you follow the traditions and teachings of man to break the commandments of God. (Matt 15:3-9). Why do you not believe God's Word?

In Christ Always
Here's another one:

ALL( all) food is clean
Rom14:20
 
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You have not one scripture from anywhere in the new testament/ covenant that states gentile must observe a specific seventh day sabbath do you. One man considers one day more sacred/ holy than another, another man considers everyday alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind
Rom14:5 Where's yours from the NC?

Friend I am still waiting for your first one. Not a reference to the Jewish festivals of the old covenant, read the OP;)
 
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Friend I am still waiting for your. Not a reference to the Jewish festivals of the old covenant, read the OP;)
Doesn't refer to Jewish festivals. There is nothing preceding that verse or after it that refers to festivals. Nice, but desperate try
 
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Ok Friend,

I will have plenty more to share tomorrow I am only just starting with the OP but its my rest time now. I suggest we keep on topic now. If you want to start another thread about different topics I will be happy to share there. But I would like to discuss the OP of this thread if that is ok?

I like the Words of Jesus,

If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. (John 12:48-50)

We should follow the Word of God over the teachings and traditions of man because it is the Word of God that will judge us in the last days. Nice chatting with you :D

PS. Prove your verse is talking about the 7th Day Sabbath? Wait you cannot. Zzz

In Christ Always.
 
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Ok Friend,

I will have plenty more to share tomorrow I am only just starting with the OP but its my rest time now. I suggest we keep on topic now. If you want to start another thread about different topics I will be happy to share there. But I would like to discuss the OP of this thread if that is ok?

I like the Words of Jesus,

If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. (John 12:48-50)

We should follow the Word of God over the teachings and traditions of man because it is the Word of God that will judge us in the last days. Nice chatting with you :D

In Christ Always.
I've just given you the Bible from the NC. You cannot give me any verse from the NC to support your position, not one
 
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Ok Friend,

I will have plenty more to share tomorrow I am only just starting with the OP but its my rest time now. I suggest we keep on topic now. If you want to start another thread about different topics I will be happy to share there. But I would like to discuss the OP of this thread if that is ok?

I like the Words of Jesus,

If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. (John 12:48-50)

We should follow the Word of God over the teachings and traditions of man because it is the Word of God that will judge us in the last days. Nice chatting with you :D

PS. Prove your verse is talking about the 7th Day Sabbath? Wait you cannot. Zzz

In Christ Always.
You know, when I went to an SDA church for a couple of months to please someone, I sat in a circle at one of their discussion groups before the main service overwhelmed by one thought:
Where is the Holy Spirit?

It was quoting the letter of the Bible( mainly the OT) without understanding the spiritual message of grace that letter contained.
And you my friend have to evade answering very simple questions.
When I ask you if your understanding of scripture has led you to believe, no one can be in a saved state if they fail to be conscious they sin by not observing a specific Saturday sabbath you cannot answer can you. For you are in an impossible position. That's because you are led of the natural mind when reading the letter.
Incidentally, officially SDA do accept as Christians people who have no consciousness of sin by failing to observe a specific Saturday sabbath, which proves, they do not understand the core foundation upon which the NC stands, according to their beliefs
 
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