I feel horrible, i blew up at my grandaughter

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but i cant just except this sin and be ok with it.

Jesus did. We all have logs in our eyes. No business in removing other people's specks.

From your original post it's obvious you don't care about your granddaughter so much, you care about yourself. You never showed much concern for her, but you went into great detail how your prayers saved her life as an infant, and how you continued on to try and influence her life with fervent prayers, and that her apostasy and sin today makes you so disappointed. You feel betrayed by her after all your effort to keep her alive and on the right track of faith. This is an extremely selfish position. You may not realize that. It's pretty sad. God is love. Your granddaughter lives not to please you. She's not your property. All you need is to love her. Leave the judging to her conscience, God will do a million times more effective job of convicting people than we can ever do.
 
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Ok im new at this, and not sure how to put all this into words, but i will try. My daughters children there are 3, 2 girls and a boy. She lost them to there dads 4 an 5 yrs ago, thats a story for another time, but it was bad and she couldnt raise them, the two oldest went to live in Ak with their dad and the youngest in texas. It has been so hard, the youngest was devastated. Still is. Again another story. But just recently the older two have moved back to Tx. With their dad. And came to visit me for a week or two. The oldest is a girl she will be 18 in a few days. And of course thinks she knows everything. They have all had varius issues from abuse to possible molestation, but the two older ones have been baptized and and i thought gave there life to God, well today, the oldest told me she is bi sexual. I freaked out, and told her that it was a sin, to not only be bi / gay but to have sex out of wedlock, and she said "well doesnt God love everyone no matter what?"
I said he loves everyone of course but he hates sin, and i told her being gay was a sin to God, it is in the Bible, so then she said that she didnt believe the bible was true, its just a book written by men, not God, it broke my heart, and i walked away. But the anger grew in me and i blew up. Said some pretty hateful stuff. There were alot of words i cant even remember them all, but basically she said she was fixing to be an adult and could do as she pleased and i said not in my house. And she went and is now at a friends house. She even said the only reason she went to church was to socialise. I have tried to contact her dad, but he is not responding. She was very sick when she was born had a 25% chance of survival, we all prayed so hard and she survived. She has allways been such a blessing to me. And i just cant believe God saved her for this kind of life style. She was abused and i helped get them away from there mom to there dads in hopes of a better life, but now im thinking i did the wrong thing. Plus i handled it horribly, she may never speak to me again. I feel terrible, and just hate life right now. How can i make this right? I have prayed and prayed for these kids, spent many many nights crying on my knees, it seems the more i pray the worse things get. The world is so full of evil, kids dont have a chance. I need to make tis right but cant relinquish my belief, and go against Gods word, i am just so angry the world/satan has done this. And i know i am by far not perfect, obviously in how i handled the situation, and def. Have not been the best or even a good influence alot of the time.

Sorry about my spelling and grammar!
but he hates sin
What about your sin, you've been sinning all your life, what makes hers worse.
1 Peter chapter 4 verse 8
Love covers a great many sins.
There's no one who never sins, Christ is the only one that never sinned.
And she probably was molested, most people who are bi sexual or gay, that I know have been molested.
If you think God is forgiving your sins, why don't you forgive hers, your not the judge.
 
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so then she said that she didnt believe the bible was true, its just a book written by men, not God,

Kids today are completely engulfed in that 'Academic Conclusion.' Unfortunately it will always be way easier to attack the Bible than it is to defend it. To defend it academically requires at least a semi commitment, to 'Pick it apart' you need zero knowledge. And more than ever we live in a sound bite world also, making it that much worse. Maybe, after smoothing things over, it would be good to hone in on her specific objections.

The good old Josh McDowell line "The heart can not delight in what the mind rejects as false."
 
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When I deal with people doing things I am concerned about, I try to first discern what God's top priority is for their life. Often what we see are symptoms, not root causes. Instead of frantically mopping up water off the floor by a stopped up sink that is overflowing; the best first course of action is to turn off the faucet and then worry about cleaning up the mess and unclogging the drain. Perhaps the top priority for a particular person is to have someone demonstrate unconditional love. Perhaps the top priority for another person is a dose of truth. Perhaps the top priority for another person is just to see someone consistently model a Christian life. For another person, it might be some type of spiritual or emotional healing.

If we try to go after each and every symptom as soon as we see it, we sometimes cause more problems or cause distractions that take their attention away from whatever the real issue is.
 
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Jesus also told people to go and sin no more

Before saying that to the adulterous woman, Jesus saved her life from the crowd that wanted to stone her to death and said, "I DO NOT CONDEMN YOU"... Should I remind you, that the woman was guilty of a criminal act worthy of death penalty according to the law.
 
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The OP is stating some info to reflect how this granddaughter has been honored by her, the grandmother, throughout her life. If I understood correctly, the grandmother has acted on behalf of the granddaughter, which was against her own daughter, to help her have a better life. She is expressing grief over how she handled the current situation.

If this was my grandchild, I assure you I would be urging them to look to Yahweh and Scripture. NO, I'm not sinless. Would definitely encourage, support, and pray. Plus talk with them in a loving manner and assure them that I love them.

Even within a church, if there's a problem, we're to talk with them (Matt 18:15-17). It doesn't say if you're sinless, you can approach them.
 
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Ok im new at this, and not sure how to put all this into words, but i will try. My daughters children there are 3, 2 girls and a boy. She lost them to there dads 4 an 5 yrs ago, thats a story for another time, but it was bad and she couldnt raise them, the two oldest went to live in Ak with their dad and the youngest in texas. It has been so hard, the youngest was devastated. Still is. Again another story. But just recently the older two have moved back to Tx. With their dad. And came to visit me for a week or two. The oldest is a girl she will be 18 in a few days. And of course thinks she knows everything. They have all had varius issues from abuse to possible molestation, but the two older ones have been baptized and and i thought gave there life to God, well today, the oldest told me she is bi sexual. I freaked out, and told her that it was a sin, to not only be bi / gay but to have sex out of wedlock, and she said "well doesnt God love everyone no matter what?"
I said he loves everyone of course but he hates sin, and i told her being gay was a sin to God, it is in the Bible, so then she said that she didnt believe the bible was true, its just a book written by men, not God, it broke my heart, and i walked away. But the anger grew in me and i blew up. Said some pretty hateful stuff. There were alot of words i cant even remember them all, but basically she said she was fixing to be an adult and could do as she pleased and i said not in my house. And she went and is now at a friends house. She even said the only reason she went to church was to socialise. I have tried to contact her dad, but he is not responding. She was very sick when she was born had a 25% chance of survival, we all prayed so hard and she survived. She has allways been such a blessing to me. And i just cant believe God saved her for this kind of life style. She was abused and i helped get them away from there mom to there dads in hopes of a better life, but now im thinking i did the wrong thing. Plus i handled it horribly, she may never speak to me again. I feel terrible, and just hate life right now. How can i make this right? I have prayed and prayed for these kids, spent many many nights crying on my knees, it seems the more i pray the worse things get. The world is so full of evil, kids dont have a chance. I need to make tis right but cant relinquish my belief, and go against Gods word, i am just so angry the world/satan has done this. And i know i am by far not perfect, obviously in how i handled the situation, and def. Have not been the best or even a good influence alot of the time.

Sorry about my spelling and grammar!

God answers prayers in His timintiming. Your grandchild is only 18. When I was that she I was a mess. Didn't get saved till my 20's. Some surrender to Jesus later in life. My grandpa was 80 when he confessed Jesus as Lord.

Don't give up hope. Keep praying.
 
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Jesus did. We all have logs in our eyes. No business in removing other people's specks.

From your original post it's obvious you don't care about your granddaughter so much, you care about yourself. You never showed much concern for her, but you went into great detail how your prayers saved her life as an infant, and how you continued on to try and influence her life with fervent prayers, and that her apostasy and sin today makes you so disappointed. You feel betrayed by her after all your effort to keep her alive and on the right track of faith. This is an extremely selfish position. You may not realize that. It's pretty sad. God is love. Your granddaughter lives not to please you. She's not your property. All you need is to love her. Leave the judging to her conscience, God will do a million times more effective job of convicting people than we can ever do.

My Dad was quite angry because of how he was raised. But, he got angry BECAUSE he cared, yet, did not UNDERSTAND. Do not condemn this dear woman for caring about the salvation of her granddaughter! She has sought forgiveness from God, and recognised that her outburst was of the flesh and not the spirit. Let the Lord handle this matter, please... The sin is forgiven, according to if she has truly sought His face! You are continuing to buffet her with an ungodly sorrowing - as if she is unworthy of God simply from a single moment of weakness... Remember, we are not to pretend we are high and mighty... We must remember that our flesh makes war against the spirit, and it is an ongoing battle that only God can redeem us from.

Pray for her to do the will of God, not your own... Do not assume you always know best, no one does.. Except, for the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit!

Please receive what I say in good cheer... Because what I say is of the Spirit, and not of flesh. The Lord leads our lives, so let Him lead it and let us edify one another. Exhortation should not be done constantly, but in loving tenderness, in kindness, in compassion to the ways of those that are struggling.

God bless everyone in Jesus name x
 
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Immerse your Grand Daughters heart soul in Jesus Ocean of Mercy, Holy Sacred Wounds, Preciousness Sacred Blood beseeching God our Heavenly Father through Jesus Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary on the Strength of Jesus Bitter Passion suffered while calling upon all of Heaven Gods Holy Angels Holy Saints Holy Martyrs Holy Souls in Heaven to pray for your Grandchildren , Daughter Son in Law and families

Jesus delivered His Holy Wound Chaplet to Saint Sister Marie Chambon and it does not have the Catholic Creed in it so being non Catholic you should feel more comfortable praying it however I wonder whom in your family was Catholic and a separated Brethren separated Churchgoer for satan to attack more greatly your GrandChildren cos been there done that a long time ago with one relative whom now receives our Lord Jesus and prays daily and has Holy Mother Mary interceding in all areas of her life
 
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We have to respect parents grandparents Lovimg caring people in their lives whom want with their hearts for them to receive Jesus Holy Spirit God and Holy Mother Mary into their hearts while they need to hand over their hurts Sufferings immersing those and their hearts and souls in Jesus Ocean of Mercy Holy Sacred Wounds and Precious Holy Blood trusting in Him completely and once told and being prayed for they will have Holy Spirit illuminating their hearts souls encouraging them to turn to Jesus in prayer reading Gods Holy Word being healed with the changing by Jesus of their lives in Him

Conversions and Salvation
Healing by our Lord Jesus
Serving our Lord Jesus God Holy Spirit and for me through my Blessed Heavenly Mother with Jesus
Repentance of sins made to our Lord Jesus in remorse from our hearts not just minds
Focussing on Jesus and His Life His Sorrows His Agonies His dying for us in His indescribable Sufferings
His Holy Word and this is to receive Holy Spirit guiding us healing our hearts with Jesus and illuminating our hearts to our sins and growing closer into unity with Jesus Holy Spirit God in ONE in Him
To walk in Jesus Righteousness to receive His Holy Gift of Love Peace Compassion Faith Humility in our hearts not just minds
To block satan and all evil receiving our Lord in His Holy Sacraments and Holy Confession and Holy Communion where He is truly Present Manifested changing the bread into His Physical Holy Blessed Flesh and Precious Holy Blood containing His Holy Gifts And Graces and Blessings Jesus says to His Saints Nuns that if only they knew what
"This Food is...

Prayer for your Grand Children's conversions handing their hearts souls over to Jesus in trust with Holy Spirit and to Holy Mother Mary that Jesus gave to Holy Saint Faustina

"O Blood and Water which gushed forth from the heart of Jesus as a Fount of Mercy for us I trust in You" x 3 times prayed in trust complete trust in Jesus and knowing He will place His Two Holy Rays over your GrandChildrens Hearts souls converting them to Him

Then deliver Gods Holy Word to each of them saying nothing

Pick up Jesus Crosses with Him on The Cross and ask Jesus Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary to Bless each Holy Bible each of Jesus on His Cross and ensure these are with them in their home for Jesus to be Present Manifested in them more quickly

Holy Michael Archangel guard us against the wickedness and snares of the devil may God rebuke Him we humbly pray and do Thou Prince of The Heavenly Hosts by the Power of God thrust down to hell satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls
Amen

Pray for your Grandchildren this Holy Prayer announcing to Jesus Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary of God to heal and protect your Grandchildrens hearts souls and ask Holy Saint Anna and Holy Saint Joachim Mother Mary's Parents Jesus Holy Grandparents with Holy Saint Joseph in God to pray for your families and for their conversions salvation and Jesus with Holy Spirits healing with

7 Our Fathers
7 Hail Marys
7 Glory Be's

wait and pray again daily until Jesus God Holy Spirit and Mother Mary discuss your Prayer Requests and answer respond healing and converting their hearts souls well it's really illuminating our hearts souls by Holy Spirit because Holy Spirit is in all of us whom were Baptized and I gather they would have all been Baptized in Holy Spirit?

Jesus Holy Wound Chaplet Jesus delivered Himself to Saint Marie Chambon in the 1900s for mankind to pray in trust to Him to God Holy Spirit

Every one has been heard and answered and responded by Jesus God Holy Spirit and my Holy Mother Mary daily on every Holy cause and earthly cause

Praise be to Jesus now and forever Amen

O Jesus Divine Redeemer be Merciful to us and to the whole world Amen
Strong God Holy God Holy Immortal God have Mercy on us and on the whole world Amen
Grace and Mercy O My Jesus during Present dangers cover us with Your Precious Blood Amen
O Eternal Father Grant us Mercy through The Blood of Thy only Son grant us Mercy we Beseech Thee Amen Amen Amen

X once

O Eternal Father I offer Thee The Wounds of our Lord Jesus Christ to heal the Wounds of our Souls Amen

X 10 times

My Jesus Pardon and Mercy through the Merits of Thy Holy Wounds

While praying this Holy Prayer of Jesus Gods Holy Spirits I focus on Jesus Holy Sorrowful Mysteries of Gods Holy Word from the time of Jesus arrest His Agony in the Garden His Scourging His Crowming with Thorns His 15 Holy Stations of His Cross because Jesus has requested hundreds of His Saints Nuns to do this each Century in order to receive Him into hearts in unity with Him in Him and in Holy Communion with Him while Jesus Requests calling upon His Holy Immaculate Mother Mary with Holy Spirit God for Her Holy Intercession and it is through Mother Mary i receive Jesus into my heart in Holy Communion daily with God our Heavenly Father

Just know trust Jesus Holy Spirit Holy Mother Mary with God are listening to your Holy Requests be patient and wait and ask for Gods Holy Saints to pray with you for you and the girls and your family

One Holy thing I wish to say also is that for non believers including Children teenagers young people old people did anyone give thought as to why fair skinned people resided in the cooler climate Nations and darker skinned people resided in the hotter climate Nations well the only Wisdom is really the Holy Sacred Wisdom of God our Heavenly Divine Majesty's not the earthly Wisdom and non believers will Most sadly realise this either in judgement here or passing over along with so many of Gods Holy Wonders in relation to Heaven and Earth not even pondered or realised

Trees when they bleed in the last days seeing realising that they have feelings
Plants all life have feelings and Gods Holy Wisdom from their seeds He Gifted
Dogs with good warm hearts souls minds guard against evil spirits while teaching mankind Gods Love Compassion Mercy Patience Self less ness Giving Jesus Righteousness loving nurturing their owners and being companionable
All of Gods Seas commanded by Him to stop and go no further unless He commands otherwise
Gods Rain Wind Snow Ice Sleet Thunder Lightning Hurricanes Tornadoes Cyclones Heat Cold all of Gods Weather sent by God at His Holy Divine Command regardless of Scientists describing El Niño La Niña Climate Change Holes in the Attic Ozone Layer as earths contributions all Weather is still Gifted or Punishment from Jesus God Holy Spirit for primarly mankind not turning to Jesus in repentance of sins from hearts not acknowledging Jesus during our lifetime here on earth ignoring Jesus not thanking Jesus for suffering and dying for us nor His Holy Mother suffering at the Foot of His Cross now Heavenly Holy Queen of Heaven and souls will be in shock passing over when they see our Real Holy Sacred Mother with Jesus Her Most Beloved Son with God The Most High our Heavenly Father and Holy Spirit all working together hearing and answering our prayers while saving souls and healing people through doctors here and saving prolonging lives giving people a second chance to turn to Jesus repent to Jesus and serve Him
 
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if people just trusted that our Lord Jesus is in fact Present listening and waiting for our hearts not just minds turning to Him in complete trust Love gratitude and sorrow for our sins

Jesus is Present among us to those whom set earthly time activities and pleasures aside with Holy Confession Holy Communion Holy Adoration of our Lord Jesus in His Blessed Holy Sacrament Pray talk to Jesus in complete trust call upon our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary with Holy Spirit with Jesus at the same time praying

Make The Sign of The Cross
The Most Holy Rosary

Regardless of faith denomination one enters into Gods Heavenly Holiness His Holy Sacred Space Holy Sacred Heart in His Holy Sorrowful Mysteries His Holy Word Holy Scriptures Holy Life Holy Bitter Passion with His Holy Sacred Fruits of His Holy Mysteries prayed for
 
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Jesus did. We all have logs in our eyes. No business in removing other people's specks.

From your original post it's obvious you don't care about your granddaughter so much, you care about yourself. You never showed much concern for her, but you went into great detail how your prayers saved her life as an infant, and how you continued on to try and influence her life with fervent prayers, and that her apostasy and sin today makes you so disappointed. You feel betrayed by her after all your effort to keep her alive and on the right track of faith. This is an extremely selfish position. You may not realize that. It's pretty sad. God is love. Your granddaughter lives not to please you. She's not your property. All you need is to love her. Leave the judging to her conscience, God will do a million times more effective job of convicting people than we can ever do.
Not sure you understood correctly.
 
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Ok well i have gone tp my pastor and spoken with him. I have written her a letter apoligizing for the way i handled it, and telling her that nothing in this world could ever make me stop loving her. But is saying that, that Homosexuality is a sin against the body, and the body is the temple of God, and that even though i love her and will never stop i cannot be ok with nor celaabrate her choice in that. So now i guess i just wait and pray for her, she will be 18 tomorrow. I do want her to have a happy and good birthday to remember, she wanted a sea food fest and she want to get her hair died. We had already got all the stuff to do it. I hope she come back. I miss her.
Oh and yes when she went to live with her father her and her bro. Both went to a camp for troubled kids for counciling, also she was in a girls cnt. For a year, for counciling because she ran away and was doing drugs. Her dad did not keep them in church or let them go to church when he got them. There is so much more to tp this situation than i could possible wrote here it would take a book. Her mother my daughter also has brain cancer. Lots of stress lots of issuse. And i know i handled it wrong. I just wanted advice on how to make it right. And some of you have given me qonderful Godly advice and i thank you tremendously for that. Now its in Gods hands.
Not sure if i put in the first letter but she has been baptized, twice.
 
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If we as Parents GrandParents Aunties Uncles Cousins Neices Nephews pray to Jesus Holy Spirit God our Heavenly Father with love trust and faith and humility humble our hearts before God He always in His Holy Will hears and in His Holy Will Holy Gifts and Blessings responds to our beseeching through our Lord Jesus Christ in His Precious Holy Sacred Wounds Precious Holy Sacred Blood because it is through The Precious Holy Sacred Blood of our Most Beautiful Loving Jesus God is our Holy Redemption in God our Heavenly Father in atonement for our sins because nothing impure can ever enter into Gods Holy Sacred Sinless Heaven and in the old early days mankind had to offer up the Blood of animals pure clean animals to God as atonement for sins until God brought down His Merciful Messiah our Lord Jesus Christ

Therefore we must love trust adore thank repent to Jesus our sins for His Purification in His Holy two Rays of Mercy shone penetrating our hearts souls cleaning them and if possible prior to Prayers from our hearts for our loved ones here on earth our Children Grandchildren family all people immersing their hearts and souls in Jesus Ocean of Mercy in Jesus Holy Sacred Wounds and Precious Holy Blood on the Strength of Jesus Passion to God our Heavenly Holy Spirit and holding the Holy Hand of our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary beseeching God

Then wait

Trust in Jesus God Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary leaving their conversions and salvation in our Lords Holy Will and Holy Timing yet still pray for them daily offering up all sufferings to Jesus Holy Spirit and Mother Mary for the Holy Souls in Purgatory for souls on their way to eternal damnation for their salvation with Alms of the Spirit offered up then see how Holy Wondrous in Gods Holy Will He converts changes and removes all hearts and souls of every person prayed for daily weekly

You are a loving caring GrandParent only care what Jesus feels knows of your heart pleasing Him first and keep praying to Jesus from your heart for your Grandchildren God has Gifted you

God our Heavenly Father knows everything in our hearts knows our worries knows what is ahead for all of us sorrows sufferings and we must hand these over daily weekly offering these to Jesus for His Holy uses of them and Jesus loves these because Jesus uses them for the emptying of Holy Purgatory for the Saving of souls going to hell for the sick and dying souls and for many other Holy causes yet we forget when handing these over to Jesus in complete trust In Him to offer these up for His Loving Holy Intentions and with our Heavenly Mother Mary
 
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We must be non judgemental kind compassionate and understanding of Cdw and the emotions heartache involved of a loving GrandMother being united with Her Grand Daighters after a long period of time, their lives of which we have not experienced nor known and the good things in our Lord Jesus God Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary done over the years and in their earlier formative years explaining as background a little part of the situation and dilemma

Praying to Jesus Holy Spirit God and Mother Mary tomorrow in Jesus Gods Holy Divine Mercy Chaplet Holy Divine Mercy Novena and The Most Holy Rosary for all of you
 
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Gods Holy Word God our Holy Divine Majesty's Old Testament

God spoke to His Priests and Prophets explaining His Creation His Animals His Creatures His Ways His Knowledge His Holy Gifts of Holy Wisdom given them to hunt survive to Job

Job 38 - 41

and

Jesus Prayer to God and Holy Spirit

John 17


2 Esdras 14, 19-26 and all of the Holy Book of Esdras Ezra

Copy the Holy Passages and leave them sitting around for your Grand Daughters for when they next visit after praying for them and or pick up Gods Holy Word and give to each of them wrapped up with a little loving Holy Card of our Lord Jesus Jesus Holy Image and Holy Mother Mary if you could CDW
 
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Jesus did. We all have logs in our eyes. No business in removing other people's specks.

From your original post it's obvious you don't care about your granddaughter so much, you care about yourself. You never showed much concern for her, but you went into great detail how your prayers saved her life as an infant, and how you continued on to try and influence her life with fervent prayers, and that her apostasy and sin today makes you so disappointed. You feel betrayed by her after all your effort to keep her alive and on the right track of faith. This is an extremely selfish position. You may not realize that. It's pretty sad. God is love. Your granddaughter lives not to please you. She's not your property. All you need is to love her. Leave the judging to her conscience, God will do a million times more effective job of convicting people than we can ever do.

How do you use such judgmental wording in order to explain to our fellow believer that you think she was being judgmental? Your responses to her have been so contradictory of what you're trying to say because you're not basing your views on the totality of the gospel of Jesus Christ, Who overthrew tables of the money changers in the temple with a whip in hand, telling the people directly that they had turned His Father's house into a den of thieves. And there are so many other recorded events of Jesus' teachings, as well as His expressions of intolerance to Pharisees/Sadduccees, that would not line up with what you are saying. Rightly divide the Word of Truth. But in order to do that, we've got to study the Word for what It says and not for what we would love for It to say. (2 Timothy 2:15)

The apostles who wrote their letters in the New Testament didn't adhere at all to what you're saying. And the truth is Jesus absolutely does love us all despite our sins, as He taught in the gospels. But He loves with His sacrificed life and beyond our comprehension. When we attempt to use our own earthly understanding of love, we begin to expect a flimsy knock-off of what He intends to show. And the flimsy comes across awfully hypocritical when we can extend it to one type of sin and not another type of sin. So, a bully should be so loved that they are not corrected? If there's an exception about sin, hypocrisy is behind the exception.

CDW already posted from the very beginning with a sorrowful heart for how she reacted. She was already humbled. She's seeking wisdom going forth. But thank God she's seeking with a heart that wants to reach her granddaughter without compromising her commitment to God. The gospel according to modern day Christianity wouldn't support her priority to God.

CDW, praying for you and praying for wisdom in communicating to your grandkids. It is extremely difficult to minister to them with the world indoctrinating them with ongoing lies. May your strength in Jesus Christ remain strong and your wisdom grow in order to effectively plant and water the seeds of God's Word into the kids.
 
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Not sure you understood correctly.

I did. You don't want to show real love.

Judging is all you want to do.

Self-righteousness.

It's not gonna help. It'll only make things worse. Much worse.

Poor girl will be pushed away from you and from Jesus...
 
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I did. You don't want to show real love.

Judging is all you want to do.

Self-righteousness.

It's not gonna help. It'll only make things worse. Much worse.

Poor girl will be pushed away from you and from Jesus...

Judging is all you want to do
 
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How do you use such judgmental wording in order to explain to our fellow believer that you think she was being judgmental? Your responses to her have been so contradictory of what you're trying to say because you're not basing your views on the totality of the gospel of Jesus Christ, Who overthrew tables of the money changers in the temple with a whip in hand, telling the people directly that they had turned His Father's house into a den of thieves. And there are so many other recorded events of Jesus' teachings, as well as His expressions of intolerance to Pharisees/Sadduccees, that would not line up with what you are saying. Rightly divide the Word of Truth. But in order to do that, we've got to study the Word for what It says and not for what we would love for It to say. (2 Timothy 2:15)

The apostles who wrote their letters in the New Testament didn't adhere at all to what you're saying. And the truth is Jesus absolutely does love us all despite our sins, as He taught in the gospels. But He loves with His sacrificed life and beyond our comprehension. When we attempt to use our own earthly understanding of love, we begin to expect a flimsy knock-off of what He intends to show. And the flimsy comes across awfully hypocritical when we can extend it to one type of sin and not another type of sin. So, a bully should be so loved that they are not corrected? If there's an exception about sin, hypocrisy is behind the exception.

CDW already posted from the very beginning with a sorrowful heart for how she reacted. She was already humbled. She's seeking wisdom going forth. But thank God she's seeking with a heart that wants to reach her granddaughter without compromising her commitment to God. The gospel according to modern day Christianity wouldn't support her priority to God.

CDW, praying for you and praying for wisdom in communicating to your grandkids. It is extremely difficult to minister to them with the world indoctrinating them with ongoing lies. May your strength in Jesus Christ remain strong and your wisdom grow in order to effectively plant and water the seeds of God's Word into the kids.

You get it ALL wrong.

Jesus is God. We are humans.

Jesus was going hard against RELIGIOUS SELF-RIGHTEOUSS HYPOCRITES. Remember the parable of Pharisee and tax collector?

Jesus loves sinners: robber tax collector, adulterers, thief on the cross, Samaritan enemies of Israel etc. etc.

God can convict people like billion times better than any of us.

You suggest that loving people means bully must not be corrected. It's very funny. Bullies become bullies because they were not loved by their families and the society.

You don't understand even 1% of Christianity or what true love is.
 
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