Are Christians allowed to eat pork under the New Covenant?

LittleLambofJesus said:

Does the verses below mean I can't eat beef cooked blood rare [which is how I like it]
Genesis 9:
2 "The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given.
3 "Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant.
4 "Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
Acts 15:
28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond these essential requirements:
29 You must abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

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Open Heart said:

It's fine to have rare beef. How much you cook meat has nothing to do with the amount of blood.

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The meaning of scripture is easily dismissed. But if faith in what scriptures really say is expressed, what Yahweh's word and what the apostles wrote from his Spirit's leading really says has no way for having blood permitted in food. It is not about how much the meat is cooked. What was said for being permitted does not have that meat permitted, at all, if the blood was not removed to start with.

Cooking does not remove blood! It cooks it!

Cooked blood for food is not permitted from what Yahweh said.

So having meat prepared kosher is a Minimum requirement, scripturally, for Jews or gentiles. And if we understand what Yahweh meant, and what is understood scientifically now, blood must be removed more than it is, for the methods still leave some blood in meat.

It is a conundrum, for having meat, as it is for any who like their meat rather bloody. But all this is a hint from God for what is known now from studies. Having meat, or any animal products, is not even healthier for you. That animal products along with processed foods are widely had is why cancers, obesity, heart attacks and strokes from clogging in circulatory systems, rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, and other issues to health are epidemic in our modern culture. We are better off without it, as is our world, the animals (of course), and the starving people who die who could live if the resources weren't used up for the animal agriculture there is to feed us.

Reasoning it all away is so backward, and it is not from the things Yahweh said for this. We can know from what is said that having animal products was not to always continue. But fallen humanity is stubborn, and it is always showing, but some will be enlightened and come to needed change.

I'm not sure what the specific laws of the Noahide category of not cutting a limb from a live animal entail, but I know that modern butchers drain the blood before they sell the meat. Also, our society doesn't drink blood as some societies do. And finally, I can't think of any modern society that chops off limbs from live animals to eat, which was done at one time in history. The law has mostly to do with kindness to animals. Forcing chimpanzees to live in small cages would be a violation, IMHO. Blinding rabbits to make another stupid mascara (as if we don't have enough mascaras) is a violation, IMHO.

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It should be clear enough that cutting from a living animal and eating it is forbidden, from what Yahweh has said, with what is shown in scriptures. Modern butchers do not drain the blood, that is misinformation. If they were doing this, their meat from the slaughter would be equivalent to kosher meat, it definitely isn't.

There is negligence here of real abuse to animals in animal agriculture that is routine in the system, that has nothing of kindness involved, but great tortuous abuse, that can be verified with really honestly looking. It is with this that you get your meat and animal products.

It would certainly be monstrously barbaric in any society to chop off limbs of living animals to eat. And modern societies are not that bad. Right? Uh ... they are that bad actually, and laws (not the laws from Yahweh though) don't stop it. There is such monstrosity and barbaric behavior from among us.

God help us to change.

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FredVB said:

Modern butchers do not drain the blood, that is misinformation. If they were doing this, their meat from the slaughter would be equivalent to kosher meat, it definitely isn't.

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Yes, butchers DO drain the blood, that's why they hang the meat up. NO this does NOT make it equivilent to kosher meat.

In addition to draining the blood, kosher meat also has the following:

• It must be kosher slaughtered, what we call Shechita. It is a way to slaughter with minimal pain to the animal with an extremely sharp knife so that unconcsiousness happens very fast. It takes years to learn. It must be done with rabbinical supervision.
• The meat is SALTED in addition to bled, in order to soak out even more blood.
• The meat must be handled in a place where no meat that is no kosher is handled. In other words you don't use a cutting board or scale where pork or shell fish is handled.

This process will always leave a little blood no matter what you do. I've been in kosher restaurants and have had the most yummy rare rib eye steaks.

FredVB said:

The meaning of scripture is easily dismissed. But if faith in what scriptures really say is expressed, what Yahweh's word and what the apostles wrote from his Spirit's leading really says has no way for having blood permitted in food. It is not about how much the meat is cooked. What was said for being permitted does not have that meat permitted, at all, if the blood was not removed to start with.

Cooking does not remove blood! It cooks it!

Cooked blood for food is not permitted from what Yahweh said.

So having meat prepared kosher is a Minimum requirement, scripturally, for Jews or gentiles. And if we understand what Yahweh meant, and what is understood scientifically now, blood must be removed more than it is, for the methods still leave some blood in meat.

It is a conundrum, for having meat, as it is for any who like their meat rather bloody. But all this is a hint from God for what is known now from studies. Having meat, or any animal products, is not even healthier for you. That animal products along with processed foods are widely had is why cancers, obesity, heart attacks and strokes from clogging in circulatory systems, rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, and other issues to health are epidemic in our modern culture. We are better off without it, as is our world, the animals (of course), and the starving people who die who could live if the resources weren't used up for the animal agriculture there is to feed us.

Reasoning it all away is so backward, and it is not from the things Yahweh said for this. We can know from what is said that having animal products was not to always continue. But fallen humanity is stubborn, and it is always showing, but some will be enlightened and come to needed change.

It should be clear enough that cutting from a living animal and eating it is forbidden, from what Yahweh has said, with what is shown in scriptures. Modern butchers do not drain the blood, that is misinformation. If they were doing this, their meat from the slaughter would be equivalent to kosher meat, it definitely isn't.

There is negligence here of real abuse to animals in animal agriculture that is routine in the system, that has nothing of kindness involved, but great tortuous abuse, that can be verified with really honestly looking. It is with this that you get your meat and animal products.

It would certainly be monstrously barbaric in any society to chop off limbs of living animals to eat. And modern societies are not that bad. Right? Uh ... they are that bad actually, and laws (not the laws from Yahweh though) don't stop it. There is such monstrosity and barbaric behavior from among us.

God help us to change.

Stop Serving Frogs to Be Eaten Alive

10 Animals Eaten Alive by Humans - ODDEE

There are monsters in this world. And they are us.

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Open Heart said:

Yes, butchers DO drain the blood, that's why they hang the meat up. NO this does NOT make it equivilent to kosher meat.

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I was looking around for it, where are you possibly getting your information from? Show the reference that meat hangs from meat hooks to drain blood out!

There isn't blood effectively removed from meat. You know, I have had meat before. There is blood with it, noticeably. There is even faux meat now which appears to "bleed", to appeal to those who had up to then just been having animal meat. I stopped having meat around the time I learned there is better health with not having meat and being vegetarian. I then felt good that I didn't still take part in contribution to animals dying. I wish I knew to start with how so completely healthier it is to have a fully whole food plant-based way of eating, and being plant-based is the only way to not contribute to animals dying for your consumer demand. So veganism is to be seen as better; the animals don't have to die for you, you would be in better health to not have the animal products. It is better for the world, and the issue of people starving to death, all the strong reasons support being vegan, what good reason is left to keep having animal products? There aren't any, and saying as the only honest answer you could give it is to please your tastes is way too small minded, being selfish for that enough to ignore the important reasons. No it would not be giving up too much. Every vegan that ever was nonvegan first, the overwhelming number of them, thought it so hard first, but tastes adjust, and healthy vegans learn they can really appreciate the tastes of just the healthy foods. And tastes change in just weeks! Don't just dismiss this.

In addition to draining the blood, kosher meat also has the following:

• It must be kosher slaughtered, what we call Shechita. It is a way to slaughter with minimal pain to the animal with an extremely sharp knife so that unconcsiousness happens very fast. It takes years to learn. It must be done with rabbinical supervision.
• The meat is SALTED in addition to bled, in order to soak out even more blood.
• The meat must be handled in a place where no meat that is no kosher is handled. In other words you don't use a cutting board or scale where pork or shell fish is handled.

This process will always leave a little blood no matter what you do. I've been in kosher restaurants and have had the most yummy rare rib eye steaks.

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At one period of history it could have been the way of slaughtering with the least anguish and suffering, but that really isn't true now, the anguish in dying continues still a long time after that act, and it is not like the animal does not realize that act of slaughtering it is coming up, so there is lengthy suffering and anguish, even with Shechita. It could be quicker with certain other ways, but for reasons I am saying, it isn't needed to continue the demand for that. I agree that with those methods, there is much less blood left, that other animal meat does not match. But still you are saying you don't care for that, or Yahweh's command that the blood should not be had with it being left in the meat, instead of it all being drained out first, you admit you have a preference for the blood, contrary to that.

I am so so very glad I am not involved with that. This world is needing more of people to change. Even climate change is very much related to the animal agriculture, so a wide shift generally to veganism is needed soon, too.

FredVB said in post #463:

. . . what good reason is left to keep having animal products?

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Note the Bible says it's okay to eat meat (1 Timothy 4:4-6).

FredVB said in post #463:

I am so so very glad I am not involved with that.

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Note we Christians need to be careful of becoming self-righteous, thinking we're better than other people (compare Luke 18:11-14, Romans 3:9).

FredVB said:

I was looking around for it, where are you possibly getting your information from?

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This site goes into detail of the various forms of bleeding.

"Bleeding after stunning

The objectives of bleeding are to kill the animal with minimal damage to the carcass and to remove quickly as much blood as possible as blood is an ideal medium for the growth of bacteria....

The most hygienic system of bleeding and dressing is to shackle the animal immediately after stunning, then hoist it on to a moving rail. The animal is stuck while being hoisted to minimize the delay after stunning. Bleeding continues until the blood flow is negligible when carcass dressing should begin without further delay (Fig. 24)"



Guidelines for slaughtering, meat cutting and further processing

FredVB said:

I was looking around for it, where are you possibly getting your information from? Show the reference that meat hangs from meat hooks to drain blood out!

There isn't blood effectively removed from meat. You know, I have had meat before. There is blood with it, noticeably. There is even faux meat now which appears to "bleed", to appeal to those who had up to then just been having animal meat. I stopped having meat around the time I learned there is better health with not having meat and being vegetarian. I then felt good that I didn't still take part in contribution to animals dying. I wish I knew to start with how so completely healthier it is to have a fully whole food plant-based way of eating, and being plant-based is the only way to not contribute to animals dying for your consumer demand. So veganism is to be seen as better; the animals don't have to die for you, you would be in better health to not have the animal products. It is better for the world, and the issue of people starving to death, all the strong reasons support being vegan, what good reason is left to keep having animal products? There aren't any, and saying as the only honest answer you could give it is to please your tastes is way too small minded, being selfish for that enough to ignore the important reasons. No it would not be giving up too much. Every vegan that ever was nonvegan first, the overwhelming number of them, thought it so hard first, but tastes adjust, and healthy vegans learn they can really appreciate the tastes of just the healthy foods. And tastes change in just weeks! Don't just dismiss this.

At one period of history it could have been the way of slaughtering with the least anguish and suffering, but that really isn't true now, the anguish in dying continues still a long time after that act, and it is not like the animal does not realize that act of slaughtering it is coming up, so there is lengthy suffering and anguish, even with Shechita. It could be quicker with certain other ways, but for reasons I am saying, it isn't needed to continue the demand for that. I agree that with those methods, there is much less blood left, that other animal meat does not match. But still you are saying you don't care for that, or Yahweh's command that the blood should not be had with it being left in the meat, instead of it all being drained out first, you admit you have a preference for the blood, contrary to that.

I am so so very glad I am not involved with that. This world is needing more of people to change. Even climate change is very much related to the animal agriculture, so a wide shift generally to veganism is needed soon, too.

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Bible2+ said:

Note the Bible says it's okay to eat meat (1 Timothy 4:4-6).

Note we Christians need to be careful of becoming self-righteous, thinking we're better than other people (compare Luke 18:11-14, Romans 3:9).

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Again there is false argument given for being in disagreement with such things that I post. Nothing I said at all was from a position that I am better than others, I shouldn't have to defend against such accusation, and it is ironic, when eating others, don't you say you are superior to them? What I was showing, it is better not to eat animal products, that is another argument, that should be discussed, not the accusation that was made, and that there is biblical disobedience to having blood with what is eaten, that I can stand by.

There was permission for meat, with some observation needed, it is not though saying, "it is okay" to eat meat.

Open Heart said:

This site goes into detail of the various forms of bleeding.

"Bleeding after stunning

The objectives of bleeding are to kill the animal with minimal damage to the carcass and to remove quickly as much blood as possible as blood is an ideal medium for the growth of bacteria....

The most hygienic system of bleeding and dressing is to shackle the animal immediately after stunning, then hoist it on to a moving rail. The animal is stuck while being hoisted to minimize the delay after stunning. Bleeding continues until the blood flow is negligible when carcass dressing should begin without further delay (Fig. 24)"

Guidelines for slaughtering, meat cutting and further processing

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Thank you for showing the site. It was not just showing up easily with searching with relevant words I used. It shows blood has to drip out so meat that isn't soaking in its blood is the result. This though is not the same as removal of blood, that is called for from the requirement with permission there was for eating meat.

FredVB said:

Thank you for showing the site. It was not just showing up easily with searching with relevant words I used. It shows blood has to drip out so meat that isn't soaking in its blood is the result. This though is not the same as removal of blood, that is called for from the requirement with permission there was for eating meat.

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How do you think kosher bleeding differs?

Nothing created by God is unclean.

Its not what goes into a mans mouth that defiles him but only what comes out of his mouth.

Goatee said:

Nothing created by God is unclean.

Its not what goes into a mans mouth that defiles him but only what comes out of his mouth.

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Are you trying to say that Jesus and the Apostles ate pork? You have no basis for that. Jesus fulfilled the law, every last punctuation mark. Paul testified that he kept every law. James spoke of the thousands of Jewish believers that were zealous for Torah. Of course it is different for Gentile believers.

Open Heart said:

Are you trying to say that Jesus and the Apostles ate pork? You have no basis for that. Jesus fulfilled the law, every last punctuation mark. Paul testified that he kept every law. James spoke of the thousands of Jewish believers that were zealous for Torah. Of course it is different for Gentile believers.

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Jesus was a Jew so followed Jewish traditions. Jesus brought with him the new covenant thus fulfilling all that was in the old.

LittleLambofJesus said:

Pork is a sin for it is written: “Nevertheless these shall ye not eat…” (Leviticus 11:4) “And the swine … he is unclean to you.” (Leviticus 11:7).
Even though people think that it was cleaned in Acts Chapter 11, the pig did not make the list! However, God did make a few exceptions to the rule and the list is as follows:

You can eat:

Fried bacon

Fried sausage patties

bbq pork ribs and pork chops

Fried cocktail sausages

Pepperoni pizza

These are just a few exceptions to the rule that God will allow. Please note that the first three items are Fried – not boiled or cooked in any other way.

Going back to Acts Chapter 11, God did say we could eat the rabbit. And when the subject came up about eating crawfish (I live in the Deep South), He said: “How can you eat those things?!?”
Anyway, I love crawfish and even though they don’t have fins and scales, yet they are good to eat. Catfish are also without scales, however, God doesn’t mind if you eat them. And God couldn’t believe that I eat eggs. Eggs are great!
Apparently, our dietary intake has changed over the millenniums of time, though pork still remains a sin.




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a christian can do anything he wants to do

but when God told His people what to eat and not eat it was for excellent reasons - which science now confirms

the same goes with anything God says anywhere in the Bible

if God says do or don't do something you have to ask yourself WHY?

why would God say such a thing?

why would such a thing be important enough for God to say it in the first place?

if you are not interested in finding out why God said something and whether or not it is a good idea to follow each specific point God makes then no one should attack you for it

it is between you and God

likewise if i am interested in finding out why God said something and discover that it was with wise cause and decide that i want to do what God said - no one should attack me for it

there is wise cause to eat the way God instructed His people to eat - imo

if you disagree - no problem

you and i are equally loved by God and stand equally redeemed by the blood of Jesus - salvation does not depend on what we eat

the only difference is i find great benefit from eating the way God said to eat - and so does my family and friends who choose to do likewise

those of my family and friends who choose not to eat the way God said to eat do have physical health issues the rest of us don't have

God Bless you my dear friend

PS
apologies if anyone ever made you feel like a 2nd class christian for not eating the way God told His people to eat - that was wrong - God's instructions are to bless our life - not burden us and condemn us

LittleLambofJesus said:

Pork is a sin for it is written: “Nevertheless these shall ye not eat…” (Leviticus 11:4) “And the swine … he is unclean to you.” (Leviticus 11:7).
Even though people think that it was cleaned in Acts Chapter 11, the pig did not make the list! However, God did make a few exceptions to the rule and the list is as follows:

You can eat:

Fried bacon

Fried sausage patties

bbq pork ribs and pork chops

Fried cocktail sausages

Pepperoni pizza

These are just a few exceptions to the rule that God will allow. Please note that the first three items are Fried – not boiled or cooked in any other way.

Going back to Acts Chapter 11, God did say we could eat the rabbit. And when the subject came up about eating crawfish (I live in the Deep South), He said: “How can you eat those things?!?”
Anyway, I love crawfish and even though they don’t have fins and scales, yet they are good to eat. Catfish are also without scales, however, God doesn’t mind if you eat them. And God couldn’t believe that I eat eggs. Eggs are great!
Apparently, our dietary intake has changed over the millenniums of time, though pork still remains a sin.




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Leviticus 20:25-26 “You shall therefore distinguish between clean animals and unclean, between unclean birds and clean, and you shall not make yourselves abominable by beast or by bird, or by any kind of living thing that creeps on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean. And you shall be holy to Me, for I the Lord am holy, and have separated you from the peoples, that you should be Mine."

In the Old Covenant there was a spiritual reason for the laws of unclean meats. They represented Gentiles. The Jews were to be a separated people unto God. Many only see the human reasoning behind everything and completely miss the point. They believe it was only for health reasons.

When the gospel was to now go to the Gentiles, Peter saw a vision of unclean meats lowered on a sheet. God said, "Kill and eat." Not only did He declare these meats to now be clean, but the Gentiles also. Again, many claim God was ONLY showing that the Gentiles were now to be open to the gospel, but the laws on meats still stood. Again, not discerning the spiritual.

1 Timothy 4:1-5 "Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Return to the law for Christians has only been for less than 200 years, in these latter times. Seventh-day Adventists were one group that adhered to not only bringing back the Sabbath laws, but forbidding to eat anything unclean.

Carefully read 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 Not only will you see that we are no longer under the law regarding clean and unclean meat, but that the misinterpretation of our body being the temple of God had to do with sexual immorality with prostitutes, and in those times they were demon-possessed pagan temple prostitutes.

12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.

15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

Remember, we are not longer under the law if lead by the Holy Spirit, therefore it is no longer a sin in the eyes of God even if you had to eat a rat. (worse case scenario if you were starving and had no choice.) The point is what is sin? Not, what is healthy? This is why Paul said, "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful.

The gospel has freed us from the law of sin and death. Jesus gave us His own Spirit to empower us to be lead by the Spirit.

Open Heart said in post #469:

Jesus fulfilled the law . . .

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Note that on the Cross, Jesus Christ abolished the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law:

Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments . . .

Goatee said:

Jesus was a Jew so followed Jewish traditions. Jesus brought with him the new covenant thus fulfilling all that was in the old.

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Right. He fulfilled the old perfectly. And Jewish believers have him as our model.

Open Heart said:

Right. He fulfilled the old perfectly. And Jewish believers have him as our model.

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Yes, so they could eat what they want now.

To the very best of my knowledge, Acts 15:20 tells me what the First Apostolic Council said in regards to Gentile Christians.

God Bless

Till all are one.

Open Heart said in post #474:

He fulfilled the old perfectly. And Jewish believers have him as our model.

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Note the Jewish believer Paul the apostle uses "us" when he says:

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 ¶Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

This refers to Jesus Christ on the Cross abolishing the letter of the entire Old Covenant Mosaic law (Romans 7:6, Hebrews 7:18-19), including the letter of the 10 commandments, which were, like the rest of the law, written and engraven in stones (2 Corinthians 3:6-18, Deuteronomy 4:13, Deuteronomy 27:8).

The "ordinances" or "statutes" (Hebrew: choq: H2706) of the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Malachi 3:7, cf. Colossians 2:14) refer to its "commandments" (Amos 2:4, cf. Ephesians 2:15).

If this has been brought up before, forgive me.

It just seems funny that people want to make us believe that Christians must go "kosher". (No pun directed towards those of the Jewish faith)

The implication of the significance of Acts 10:10-16 is the including the Gentiles to salvation.

However, God specifically told Peter that: "What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common."

Swine were "unclean". In fact, any animal that had a "split hoof" was forbidden.

By the same token, camels and rabbits fall into that category.

Yet nobody raises sand when people eat rabbit.

It is clear that from Peter's vision, and what we learn from Acts 15, swine are no longer forbidden.

But let me say this also. Has anybody ever taken the time to read the dietary laws?

They are very, very healthy.

They are healthy in that they are low fat, high fiber, low cholesterol. Reduces high blood pressure and thusly reduces the chance of heart failure, heart attack, and stroke.

Just a little something to think on.

God Bless

Till are one.

DeaconDean said:

If this has been brought up before, forgive me.

It just seems funny that people want to make us believe that Christians must go "kosher". (No pun directed towards those of the Jewish faith)

The implication of the significance of Acts 10:10-16 is the including the Gentiles to salvation.

However, God specifically told Peter that: "What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common."

Swine were "unclean". In fact, any animal that had a "split hoof" was forbidden.

By the same token, camels and rabbits fall into that category.

Yet nobody raises sand when people eat rabbit.

It is clear that from Peter's vision, and what we learn from Acts 15, swine are no longer forbidden.

But let me say this also. Has anybody ever taken the time to read the dietary laws?

They are very, very healthy.

They are healthy in that they are low fat, high fiber, low cholesterol. Reduces high blood pressure and thusly reduces the chance of heart failure, heart attack, and stroke.

Just a little something to think on.

God Bless

Till are one.

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The point is not whether the clean meats were healthier. That's a given. The point is eating pork or even a rat is no longer SIN. Paul said "all things are lawful, but not all things are helpful. Then he goes on about the processing of food in the stomach and out again. What IS sin is sexual sins with demon possessed temple prostitutes as you are joining the Holy Spirit with a demon. 1 Cor. 6

1stcenturylady said:

The point is not whether the clean meats were healthier. That's a given. The point is eating pork or even a rat is no longer SIN. Paul said "all things are lawful, but not all things are helpful. Then he goes on about the processing of food in the stomach and out again. What IS sin is sexual sins with demon possessed temple prostitutes as you are joining the Holy Spirit with a demon. 1 Cor. 6

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I never disputed any of that.

I even showed the case/argument from Peter and the great sheet, and from the First Apostolic Council.

I just wanted to show that there were benefits from the dietary laws. That's all.

Geez...

God Bless

Till all are one.