the biblical "blood" is also the soul itself:
What "biblical blood" ?
Our flesh sinned. The payment for our sin is death of the body. It is the blood (the life of the Body), God requires.
Gen.9
- [5] And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
Genesis 4:9-10 "And the LORD said to Cain, Where is Abel your brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? And he said, What have you done? the voice of your brother's blood cries to me from the ground." (remember the "dust of the ground"),
The blood is the life of the body. Abel is saying, uh gee, I don't know where by brother is. The LORD is saying, ya you do. You killed him. His LIFE or otherwise what was his LIFE, is crying out to me.
Revelation 6:9-11 "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, do you not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given to every one of them; and it was said to them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brothers, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."
And who are those souls?
IMO, via my studies; they are Jews, who were given knowledge of Christ Jesus, but could not believe it was God coming to them in the flesh.
John 1
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10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
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11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
ALSO all others, who in the last day, hear the preaching across the world...
Rev 14
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6] And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to
preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
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7] Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Did they (Jews) still believe in God and the Word of God? Yes. (Some) Did they believe Jesus was the Word of God? No. (mostly no, but some did and do)
Are they still on the earth, being removed from the earth, via "rapture", rising up to Christ in the clouds? No. (only if they submitted to Jesus)
Are they who take the mark of the beast? No.
So, where are they?
Matt 24
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14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
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15]
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
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16] Then let
them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
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17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
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18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
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19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
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20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
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21] For
then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
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22] And
except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
The elect's sake are those WHO "elected" to trust, believe, & submit unto God.
i believe the biblical human "heart" is respective spirits in the respective humans, the heart of the spiritual/religious person is active, while the hearts of the irreligious and non-occult people are passive, which is why God has determined there to be two main categories of people, "jews"(spiritual/religious) and "gentiles"(irreligious and non-occult), the human heart is the main organ with which a person could practice faith or be spiritually/religiously active...
This is too influenced by "occult" and "passive" type suggestions, which I believe is subjective and not necessary.
The heart is human, as is the brain, the organs, flesh, etc. It is created by a human seed, and molded and formed in the womb, by Gods hands.
If it's human, it's corrupt. Period. If it remains corrupt, it's corrupt. Period. If it submits to Gods WAY of changing, then it becomes acceptable to God, whether or not it is acceptable to other men.
God decides what is acceptable to Him, and that all hinges on the individual's decision to trust and believe in Him. And if that be so, God will accept him.
the soul is the main organ of senses, feelings and perceptions, for example, if, God forbid, a person feels pain in their body, the soul is precisely the thing that feels that pain, or when a person walks, the soul is precisely the thing that perceives/feels they walk...
You can personally experience two different types of pain. Physical in your body, oochie ouchie a blister on your foot, it hurts to walk. A slipped lumbar disc, your lower back has horrendous physical pain. And then there is the pain of sorrow, grief, sadness, worry, anxiety....that affects your soul....and can also affect the spirit of your heart.
Judg.10
- [16] And they put away the strange gods from among them, and served the LORD: and his soul was grieved for the misery of Israel.
1Sam.1
- [8] Then said Elkanah her husband to her, Hannah, why weepest thou? and why eatest thou not? and why is thy heart grieved? am not I better to thee than ten sons?
the mind is the organ of exercise, i.e. the organ with which a person can try/make efforts to do something, for example, when we try to calculate a mathematical task/problem, etc.
Yep. Logical conclusions.
i believe that being spiritual/religious is not most important, but loving your neighbor/townsman/cohabitant is what is most important, because God is, first of all, love, and the faith is true only if it is based on display/manifestation of pure/perfect love for the neighbor/townsman/cohabitant (Galatians 5:6, Romans 2:14-29)...
Ya, I think I get your point. Personally, I don't particularly favor "name tags", Catholic, Calvinist, Mormon, Baptist, Muslim, Jew, Christian, whatever. I get they are descriptive
as a basis to relate kinda where your religious beliefs stand....but IMO they get way over used and decided by others what you SHOULD be calling yourself and blah, blah, drifting off to a deflective nonsense irrelevant discussion that has nothing to do with glorifying God.
why not even in this world?!, why be/walk mangled/disfigured/mutilated in this world?! - remember how Jesus and His true disciples healed the sick of every health problem even by recovering/restoring or (re)making missing limbs/organs
Well, actually they do, to some extent. Many talented physicians work wonders in restoring individuals capabilities and disfigurements. Many people pray over the sick and injured for their recovery and restoration. Yet, remember, we are not God and can not 1) restore what requires His hand 2) expect Him to meet our MINDS demands.
How God operates, IS RARELY How our mind expects Him to respond to our prayers.
That is one of the Biggest reasons, Jews can not accept Jesus. They are waiting for a King to come cloak them from ALL enemies, and threats, and everything be joyful for them. They thought it would be LIKE they expected. God didn't respond to them as they expected, so they don't believe He has yet responded to them.
i meant that many biblical words have more than one meaning just as many words in the dictionaries have two or more meanings
Okay, got it. Yep, words do have duel meaning, and the surrounding text is the clue of its application.
Still again, understanding, according to God, is the highlight for a believer.
AND by the way, the frustration for fallen angels, and unbelievers....
Fallen angels are too bad, so sad.
But for humans, that do not believe, crave to understand, SO THEN THEY CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO BELIEVE. too bad for them. That is backwards, not the plan, and why believers shall be richly rewarded, for their faithfulness in God, even when they didn't fully understand, they loved Him and trusted Him.
according to the biblical doctrine of eternal judgment(circle)
Eternal judgement? One judgement, Result is forever, eternal.
there is an eternity of eternities and every soul will be successively in the place/personality/position of any other (i.e. eternity by eternity) - the single(little) eternity is a period i.e. a time with a beginning and end, albeit long, and a cycle, because there is also an eternity of such eternities, which is also a cycle and is even a circle...
Not a clue what you are trying to convey.
There is not a circle of forever and ever of chance after chance.
God is JUST. God is Merciful. He provides every opportunity for men to come and learn about Him, follow, fail, wonder, challenge, reject, love, fall away, come back, puts things in peoples paths to see, to stumble, to need Him, to call on Him.....and still it is the individuals choice. And there is coming a time, of ending, and choice making is done. God has already taught, there is an ending, and the division shall come and be final. Gods Word is true and faithful. So far mankind has had over 6,000 years of learning, experiencing, hearing, and making their individual choices. It shall end, and Gods Word be revealed true.
hardly the true thankfulness consists only in a religious gesture of gratefulness to God, but it is written:
Of course not only. One can not BE thankful to God if they do not believe in Him. And one who doesn't believe, and then experiences hell, will surely miss what they were not thankful for. I don't know about you, but I am thankful to God for all his majestic beauty pleasing to my eyes everyday. I have a tranquil surrounding of trees, beautiful flowers, plants, water stream, many different birds, deer, critters, sunshine, sky covered stars at night, awesome and peaceful, while others are crammed in the cities running 90 miles an hour rushing, rushing, rushing. eeek!
Romans 2:5-11 "God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life: But to them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man that does evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honor, and peace, to every man that works good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God."
Yep!
the irreligious and non-occult people can also inherit eternal life, and mostly if they don't cause evil to their neighbor till the last day; indeed:
"religious "non-occult" - subjective words.
Not doing evil to their neighbor - WHY? Because they wanna be nice?
Or because it would not glorify God.
I think you are leaning toward implying, Nice guys can go to heaven too, even if they don't really believe? No. The unsaved, can not glorify God.
Romans 2:26-27 "if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Who is this? Who was being circumcised? Jews. Right? Gentiles? No.
So how about a Gentile WHO decided to follow the Jewish religion, thinking that was necessary to be accepted by God?
And, if he follows the Law of the Jews, but is uncircumcised (foreskin) is that not acceptable to God? Ya it was/ is.
And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge you, who by the letter and circumcision do transgress the law?"
And, what about the one "not circumcised" (Gentile), who fulfills the law, judges the Jew, (who by the script and is circumcised) but yet does not fulfill the law (ie transgresses against the law)? Is that right? Yep it was/is.
what i know from the true One is that some souls may sleep for a long time, but no soul can ever stop existing/being present - all of them are indestructible in their uncaused/primordial nature
Totally disagree. Souls are created. They like everything else "created" from Gods idea, spoken word and power; are not living things, and have no life until God Himself imparts life into the "things". God is Life. Life belongs to Him. He can impart and depart life IN and OUT of things, as His pleasure.
A human man, WHO desires God to NEVER depart LIFE out of his soul, is a man WHO submits unto God, and God has already spoken, That life in that soul, shall remain forever.
they are made to be (in the form of) created (be)souled beings
They are not entities apart from the identity of the one man they are in or out of. The identity of a soul, is the same identity of one individual body of flesh.
what you say here about life is true; on the other hand, life is created
Blood is created. It is the life that sustains a natural body.. However LIFE, that is eternal, forever lasting, is Life imparted from God, because God IS LIFE, not created.
it is presented in Genesis 1:1-5 that some things have not been created, for example, in that passage there is no speech of the so-called "darkness" and "waters" as things created by God.
Of course they were created. And by His idea, His Word, His Power, did they come into being.
Gen 1
[
31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Gen 2
[
1] Thus
the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
[
2] And
on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Everything was created and finished in 6 days.
There is nothing new on this earth, that was not here from the beginning.
There is nothing new in the heavens, that was not there from the beginning.
is there any biblical verse speaking of a total destruction of souls at all?!
Matt.10
- [28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
i don't say that if a soul rests by sleeping, it is not of the true God; because, as it is evident from what is written in Genesis 1:2, the Spirit of God moved upon the souls (which were in the embrace of the "darkness" in the very beginning) in order to save them from the unpleasant presence of the "darkness" by putting them into the so-called nothingness(the biblical "dust of the ground") where they (can) rest in a state of deep sleep without dreams...
I think you are speaking of physically dead bodies. They know nothing, do nothing, but rot and return to dust.
All souls have life in them. Anything called "a dead soul", IS a living soul, SEPARATED from God. Because "spiritually", according to God, everything that is NOT WITH HIM, is DEAD to Him, (whether physically alive or not).
not exactly
in principle, the souls are prepared to inherit abundant and eternal life, which is why at least some of them are awakened and taken out of the nothingness in order to be born in bodies, either of angels, humans, or animals...
Dead bodies are raised from the grave, not souls. There are no souls in "nothingness". There are living souls in living bodies; living souls out of body in hell; living souls out of body in heaven. There has not yet been a judgement day for living souls.
You are describing WHERE souls "come from". Where do you get that from? Scripture teaches God makes souls for men. Scripture does not teach, from WHAT or WHERE He makes them.
God Bless.
SBC
