Certain you have the Holy Spirit?

Celticroots said:

How can you be certain you have the Holy Spirit? Are there signs to look for? At the same time, I'v heard that you shouldn't compare the work the Spirit does in you to the work He does in someone else because everyone is different.

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There is no "Holy Spirit"; man just, for some unknown reason to me, just made that up.

The Scriptural revelation in the autographed language is that pneuma hagion(translated for you for 2,000yrs as "[the]Holy Spirit") is the (2 Tim 3:16)God-breathed Scriptures themselves coupled with, and understood by, the promised life of God's promised joy. With out life, the words have little to no meaning. They remain as words unbreathed--lifeless!

How do we know when we have it: pneuma hagion? When your life becomes so far beyond dreams and words that you cannot even explain it! Such is the kingdom of God!

Celticroots said:

How can you be certain you have the Holy Spirit? Are there signs to look for? At the same time, I'v heard that you shouldn't compare the work the Spirit does in you to the work He does in someone else because everyone is different.

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If you are saved by Jesus Christ you have the Holy Spirit.

Haipule said:

There is no "Holy Spirit"; man just, for some unknown reason to me, just made that up.

The Scriptural revelation in the autographed language is that pneuma hagion(translated for you for 2,000yrs as "[the]Holy Spirit") is the (2 Tim 3:16)God-breathed Scriptures themselves coupled with, and understood by, the promised life of God's promised joy. With out life, the words have little to no meaning. They remain as words unbreathed--lifeless!

How do we know when we have it: pneuma hagion? When your life becomes so far beyond dreams and words that you cannot even explain it! Such is the kingdom of God!

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Hello and God bless

I can certainly assure the Comforter is real!

The feeling of Holy Spirit is immense joy, lomg suffering, peace, patience.

There are nine gifts of the Spirit mentioned by Paul in I Corinthians chapter twelve:

1) Word of Wisdom
2) Word of Knowledge
3) Faith
4) Gifts of Healing
5) Working of Miracles
6) Prophecy
7) Discerning of Spirits
8) Divers (or different) kinds of Tongues
9) Interpretation of (different) Tongues

The Holy Spirit can be asked for.

I call the Spirit, the Power

_-iconoclast-_ said:

Hello and God bless

I can certainly assure the Comforter is real!

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The word translated for you as "Comforter" is paraklEtos. para is a prefixed preposition and means: from someplace to another place or, from someone to someone else. It is untranslatable into English. klEtos means: to represent another. But not necessarily a lawyer:

Q: Why does New Jersey have all the nuclear waste dumps and California have all the lawyers?

A: New Jersey got to pick first.

Jesus said that He would sent the paraklEtos(masculine): from some place to another place to represent Him. The information we have in the NT could not have been written by the writers of NT Scripture unless that information was breathed into them--the God-breathed Scripture of God's pneuma(neuter).

Is not the entire NT the paraklEtos of Jesus?

Haipule said:

Is not the entire NT the paraklEtos of Jesus?

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I dont really know how to answer your question. I just asked Christ into my heart and received the Spirit.

_-iconoclast-_ said:

I dont really know how to answer your question. I just asked Christ into my heart and received the Spirit.

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I'm an old pro and you can't fool me! I know God's love in a another person when I see it!

Thank you for being refreshing! Nice to meet you, nui aloha, Bill

Haipule said:

I'm an old pro and you can't fool me! I know God's love in a another person when I see it!

Thank you for being refreshing! Nice to meet you, nui aloha, Bill

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Thank you and same to you. God bless you saint

Haipule said:

The word translated for you as "Comforter" is paraklEtos. para is a prefixed preposition and means: from someplace to another place or, from someone to someone else.
It is untranslatable into English. klEtos means: to represent another. But not necessarily a lawyer:

Q: Why does New Jersey have all the nuclear waste dumps and California have all the lawyers?

A: New Jersey got to pick first.

Jesus said that He would sent the paraklEtos(masculine): from some place to another place to represent Him. The information we have in the NT could not have been written by the writers of NT Scripture unless that information was breathed into them--the God-breathed Scripture of God's pneuma(neuter).

Is not the entire NT the paraklEtos of Jesus?

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Good post. I suppose the NT could be that, as it is comfort reading the teachings of Jesus. Here is another study on that word:

Strong's Greek: 3875. παράκλητος (paraklétos) -- called to one's aid

HELPS Word-studies
3875 paráklētos (from 3844 /pará, "from close-beside" and 2564 /kaléō, "make a call") – properly, a legal advocate who makes the right judgment-call because close enough to the situation. 3875 /paráklētos ("advocate, advisor-helper") is the regular term in NT times of an attorney (lawyer) – i.e. someone giving evidence that stands up in court.

STRONGS NT 3875: παράκλητος

παράκλητος, παρακλητου, ὁ (παρακαλέω), properly, summoned, called to one's side, especially called to one's aid; hence,

1. "one who pleads another's cause before a judge, a pleader, counsel for defense, legal assistant; an advocate": Demosthenes, p. 341, 11; (Diogenes Laërtius 4, 50, cf. Dio Cassius, 46, 20.

2. universally, one who pleads another's cause with one, an intercessor: Philo, de mund. opif. § 59; de Josepho § 40; in Flaccum §§ 3 and 4; so of Christ, in his exaltation at God's right hand, pleading with God the Father for the pardon of our sins, 1 John 2:1 (in the same sense, of the divine Logos in Philo, vita Moys. iii. § 14).

3. in the widest sense, a helper, succorer, aider, assistant; so of the Holy Spirit destined to take the place of Christ with the apostles (after his ascension to the Father), to lead them to a deeper knowledge of gospel truth, and to give them the divine strength needed to enable them to undergo trials and persecutions on behalf of the divine kingdom: John 14:16, 26; John 15:26; John 16:7, cf. Matthew 10:19; Mark 13:11; Luke 12:11f (Philo de mund. opif. § 6 at the beginning says that God in creating the world had no need of a παράκλητος, an adviser, counsellor, helper. The Targums and Talmud borrow the Greek words פְּרַקְלִיט and פְּרַקְלִיטָא and use them of any intercessor, defender, or advocate; cf. Baxtorf, Lex. Talm., p. 1843 ((edited by Fischer, p. 916)); so Targ. on Job 33:23 for מֵלִיץ מַלְאָך, i. e. an angel that pleads man's cause with God; (cf. πλουσίων παρακλητοι in 'Teaching' etc. 5 [ET] under the end; the Epistle of Barnabas 20, 2 [ET]; Apostolic Constitutions 7, 18)). Cf. Knapp, Scripta varii Argumenti, p. 124ff; Düsterdieck on 1 John 2:1, p. 147ff; (Watkins, Excursus G, in Ellicott's N. T. Commentary for English Readers; Westcott in the Speaker's commentary Additional Note on John 14:16; Schaff in Lange ibid.)..................

Celticroots said:

How can you be certain you have the Holy Spirit? Are there signs to look for? At the same time, I'v heard that you shouldn't compare the work the Spirit does in you to the work He does in someone else because everyone is different.

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Listen daily to the Shepherd, Jesus.
Compare / Test/ Judge everything you hear from anyone, ever, against Scripture.

Anything that is wrong according to Scripture is wrong.
Anything that contradicts Scripture is wrong.

YHWH gives / grants/ understanding of Scripture as He Pleases, so seek Him and keep seeking Him; ask Him and keep asking Him. No man can accomplish this for you.

Celticroots said:

How can you be certain you have the Holy Spirit? Are there signs to look for? At the same time, I'v heard that you shouldn't compare the work the Spirit does in you to the work He does in someone else because everyone is different.

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The Holy Spirit is sent to live within all those who put their trust in Jesus. We know the Spirit lives in us because He witnesses to us (Rom. 8:14, 16) and convicts us of sin (John 16:8). When we feel this conviction, we will feel guilt and when we confess that sin, we will be forgiven and cleansed of all unrighteousness, as 1 John 1:9 tells us.

We are told in 2Co 5:17 "... if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" So by following the leading of the Spirit we will be cleansed of sin and people will see this in our life.

The sure sign of having the Spirit is that we will be changed and given power over sin. 1 John 3:9 tells us that those born of God will not continue in sin. This does not mean that we will never sin but that sin will not be a regular part of our lifestyle.

God commands us to repent (confess) of our sin, and in doing so, He will forgive us and empower us to be able to resist it.

Hope that helps.

God bless,
Mick

Celticroots said:

I have accepted Christ, asking Him to save me and meant it.

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Provided you've been baptised, you've received the Holy Spirit. You may not have any particular awareness of HIs presence, other than the fact you admit Christ is Lord. You can't even do that unless you have received the Holy Spirit and the Father has drawn you.

I think your main issue is your own anxiety disorder, which makes you worry, possibly about things that have no foundation.

For you, that will probably be an ongoing struggle, one of your crosses.

Celticroots said:

How can you be certain you have the Holy Spirit? Are there signs to look for? At the same time, I'v heard that you shouldn't compare the work the Spirit does in you to the work He does in someone else because everyone is different.

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I grow up and was baptized not really understanding the Holy Spirit. I did not experience any great “change” at baptism and the people around me at the time who were baptized and had the indwelling Holy Spirit did not seem that different from me, but they were different from the world.

I heard some people speaking in what they said was ‘tongs”, but they seemed just caught up emotionally. I did not see the “Spirit” doing big time stuff, but did believe people were healed and lives were changed. I thought at the time I was more “Spiritual” than anyone else, but then I took a job in Raleigh, NC.

My experience went like this:

I got thrown into (volunteered if needed) with the youth (13-21 age) prisoners program teaching Bible (one hour on Sunday morning to a group of 14 with three other Christians teaching groups of 14) and taught three groups of “Christians”. The first group is guys (going to school it is called) that start out their stay causing trouble getting thrown in the tank. Then they start increasingly attending the services, carrying their Bible, being nice, and say they are Christians. By the time the parole board meets they have this glowing report showing continued improvement tied to their increased spirituality and are released. These guys still carry weapons, are members of a gang, and every prisoner know they just “went to school” to get out. The second group were converted before they went to prison (grandma conversions), but watch raunchy TV, hang with a loss group, laugh at off colored jokes, are not always talking about Jesus and are not trying to convert others. Their first day in prison the snitches see this, the snitches talk to the Bulls that approach these “Christians” saying you are not a Christian (doing everything Christ would do) and make them a slave (often sexual) or at best gang member. They still come to Bible study on Sunday so they can tell Granny (who visits them Sunday afternoon) what they learned, but they are slaves (sometimes sexually) to some bull. The third group is fanatical, they stick close to each other, they: study, pray, witness to everyone, and avoid even a hint of insincerity that the snitches could see. They carry no weapons, but step between those that are being beaten especially in persecution. This group had grown over the last 3 years from just a couple of guys to now 42, but it came at a high price. Each convert had on the day he was baptized given up the protection of his gang membership, turned over his weapons along with all his possessions (the gang owns everything including them), they were beaten if not by the gang they left, then by other gangs looking for payback and then they were watch constantly looking for any sign the snitches might interpret as weakness (anything less than what Christ would do in the situation, would result in a beating and it could be to death). There is absolutely no privacy and these Christians never wanted to be found alone. They slept in barracks where at least one stayed awake all night praying over them so they could sleep without the fear of being smashed in the head in the middle of the night. These guys believed and counted on power from the Holy Spirit, I did not know existed. They come battered and bruised each week hungry for some real meaningful Christ like lesson that goes beyond their group study of 40+hours that week on the same subject, which I could not provide. They mostly helped me with my poor example of Christianity and lack of knowledge and lack of wisdom. They mentored me even though they were only Christian for a few months, but I was a poor disciple and could not keep up with them.

Maybe we do not see the Spirit working in us because we quench Him or are not in situations of really needing Him. Severe persecution brings out the Spirit in those who have the Spirit.