yeshuaslavejeff
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Then you have identified , or potentially started to learn, the problem.
As Jesus said "If you are willing".
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The Seventh Day is the SABBATH of the Lord thy God Exodus 20:10
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As Jesus said "If you are willing".
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Listening to the Holy Spirit is a problem? You might try it, but you would have to have stop quenching Him first, and especially stop attributing to Satan the things of the Spirit. That is called blasphemy. And like it or not, there are no demons in me, so you can just stop thinking I'm possessed with anyone other than the Holy Spirit.
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You will get bored eventually. He cannot discuss the spiritual message, so he will just carry on with his blanket statements
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No, he gave up. See the prayer hands? He's just going to start praying I will see things his way, instead of His way.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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Haha. Sorry - you're not justified nor did you correct the errors you posted a little while ago.
Talking/ posting about them all has not helped so far -
except you almost did admit to errors - that is almost a good sign, eh?
If you were listening to YHWH'S Spirit , and learning / posting from Him,
you would not make those errors (posted earlier, and quoted).
Thus, something other than YHWH'S Spirit has been the source of your errors which is in the content of your own posts, in your own words.
Prayer is likely to be the only way approved by YHWH, and originating from Him,
that anyone can help you.
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You haven't posted what I said, just what you said in blanket statements. You don't know me at all.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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I quoted you exactly - and even numbered your errors (1) (2)(3) , remember ?
Less than a couple hours ago I think.
No blanket statement involved.
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Your accusations are false, and close to blasphemy, so I'm going to put you on ignore, to protect you from committing any more willful sins against me. Talk to my back.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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Like every time before,
just ignore the truth, back out, without ever correcting your errors -
it happens a lot, not just with you - you're not unique by any means, at all.
Ever since the 1991 debacle, the "Toronto Farce", for lack of a better description,
"Holy Spirit" has meant something entirely different than in Scripture,
in thousands of fellowships,
in millions of people,
all around the world.
God's Word Remains Unchanged, the RIGHT and RIGHTEOUS Standard.
As HIS WORD says, TO BELIEVERS: (not to unbelievers)
TEST the spirits, BEFORE believing them, BEFORE accepting what they say.
How ? In prayer, of course, but not subjectively.
Rather, BY GOD'S WORD - UNCHANGED AUTHORITY; UNCHANGED STANDARD.
Otherwise, like Toronto and following , millions who followed their feeling and emotions instead of relying on God's Word, got mislead, horribly.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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(1)Those who sin are still under the law of sin and death, and
(2) know nothing of living and walking in the Spirit.
(3)You teach law, I teach Spirit and so did Paul.
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Who among us is sinless, so they don't fit in (1) "Those who sin" ?
(no one)
So, then, are they/we all under the "law of sin and death" ?
(no)
Those of us who sin [ever],
do we/ us left knowing "nothing of living and walking in the Spirit? (let's clarify - "Spirit of God" (not an evil spirit / the devil) )
Who then anywhere would ever know about living and walking in the Spirit of YHWH(GOD) ?
Jesus and all the Apostles taught righteously, in line with TORAH, not to be saved, obviously, but as the FATHER in heaven directed - as Jesus did, so also His followers do.
Did anyone guided by YHWH'S SPIRIT EVER, ever, anywhere , teach against YHWH'S WORD ?
(no)
Did Paul, the Apostle, set aside by YHWH since his birth, violate TORAH ?
(no)
Did Paul, the Apostle, taught by Yeshua, ever teach anything opposed to Yeshua?
(no) (not after Paul's conversion)
(2) know nothing of living and walking in the Spirit.
(3)You teach law, I teach Spirit and so did Paul.
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Who among us is sinless, so they don't fit in (1) "Those who sin" ?
(no one)
So, then, are they/we all under the "law of sin and death" ?
(no)
Those of us who sin [ever],
do we/ us left knowing "nothing of living and walking in the Spirit? (let's clarify - "Spirit of God" (not an evil spirit / the devil) )
Who then anywhere would ever know about living and walking in the Spirit of YHWH(GOD) ?
Jesus and all the Apostles taught righteously, in line with TORAH, not to be saved, obviously, but as the FATHER in heaven directed - as Jesus did, so also His followers do.
Did anyone guided by YHWH'S SPIRIT EVER, ever, anywhere , teach against YHWH'S WORD ?
(no)
Did Paul, the Apostle, set aside by YHWH since his birth, violate TORAH ?
(no)
Did Paul, the Apostle, taught by Yeshua, ever teach anything opposed to Yeshua?
(no) (not after Paul's conversion)
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You will notice that the topic of this thread is a direct quote of Exodus 20 -- to the extent that you provide some comment or insight on that topic - it is certainly welcome.
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You are free to do anything you like on Sunday - Sunday is week-day-1 the day on which Jesus was raised from the dead.. it is not the 7th day -- Sabbath of the Bible.
It is pretty clear in the Bible - that Jesus was raised to life on the first day of the week.
BTW - welcome to the thread!
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Only if you believe it is. But there is no New Testament commandment restricting you from working on Sunday (or any day for that matter). Jesus said, "Come unto me all ye who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Rest is faith in Christ. The Old Testament Sabbath was a shadow of our rest in Jesus.
One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it.
Just remember, anything you do that is not of faith, is sin to you, whether there is a commandment or not. Never go against your own conscience. That is what the Holy Spirit uses to lead you.
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You are free to do anything you like on Sunday - Sunday is week-day-1 the day on which Jesus was raised from the dead.. it is not the 7th day -- Sabbath of the Bible.
It is pretty clear in the Bible - that Jesus was raised to life on the first day of the week.
BTW - welcome to the thread!
So do Christians who believe in Christ and go to church on Sunday have the mark of the beast as your church teaches? This is one of your churches main beliefs that Sunday is a sign of apostasy by the pope when almost everyone knows that Sunday was observed before the Catholic church even came into being.
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No one has the mark of the beast
" No one has yet received the mark of the beast".—Evangelism, 234 (1899). {Last Day Events: 224.5}
-- if you want to dispute that with SDAs and tell them why they should not say or believe that -- you are free to go to the SDA section of this board and have your dispute. I will offer to join you there if you choose to do it - and we can discuss your topic "more".
But I started this thread - and it is not on the topic of the mark of the beast.
in Christ,
Bob
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Bob, what do you tell people who ask you:
The law is holy, so why are we no longer under the law but under grace?
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
So, how do we keep from sinning if we are not under the law? Because if we break the law we sin. And if we are not under the condemnation of the law, what is to prevent us from breaking it?
The law is holy, so why are we no longer under the law but under grace?
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
So, how do we keep from sinning if we are not under the law? Because if we break the law we sin. And if we are not under the condemnation of the law, what is to prevent us from breaking it?
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Romans 6 says we are not to sin - because we are no longer "under Law but under grace".
Romans 3 says that the term "under Law" means under the full condemnation of the LAW.
But in modern times people "bend the phrase" -- and turn it to mean "under obligation to obey God's Word - His Commandments". Which is not at all what Paul said it means.
Thus I say to them "it is still a sin to take God's name in vain -- yes even for Christians" ... and of course they almost always agree that this is so.
Indeed - James points out the same thing ..
James 2
8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty.
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