A theoretical conversation between God, the Father, and God, the Son...

I don't think people in the OT got to live again, or have eternal life, or go to the realm/reality of Heaven, after they died...

Here is theoretical conversation between God and his Son, sometime after the old testament (OT) and before the beginning of the new with Jesus God's Son...

Son: "Father, why don't we allow or make a way for some to be able to be and exist as we are in our realm?" "Are we really that much different from they? Are they really that much different from us? We made them in our likeness after all...?

Father: They (humankind) stands condemned right now (after OT, before the new)...

Son: "We could make a way a new way a new covenant with them, a way that some could be saved to be with us, and for them to have every good thing in that (their other) life...?"

God, the Father: (to the Son), "You would do this/that...?" "You would stand for them, standing condemned, you know that means you would have to be or stand condemned as well, in their place..."

You would go to them and exist as one of them and tell them about this new covenant, new plan and You vow to do and suffer all that is necessary in what you propose...?

Son: "Yes, the end afterward and after this is well worth it to me Father..."

Jesus, or God the Son is our advocate and advocates for us when other voices protest about this plan to allow humans where they are, he fights for us against those enemies making our case to get into heaven.

Anyways, you can speculate from there...

I Believe Jesus is the advocate making the case for all of our souls, even those in the OT who were originally condemned...

And the judgement is that of a persons heart...



Comments...?

God Bless!

You may or may not have to obey or perform, but you must agree with God, I think... As I said earlier in this thread, it depends on who you are, maybe be partly where you came from, exactly how you came to be, where you "should be", all the details, "all" of which, can only be known by God alone, not even you know or can know it, except only by revelation by God (if it's in the, or his, cards for you, so to speak)... Lacking it being revealed to you, might be able to excuse from some sin(s)... And knowing it may not, I don't know, but, God does...

Sin is wrong, sin is bad, sin is risky, it's dangerous, it's destructive, and harms you or causes suffering in you and others connected to you in a way you cannot conceive or often comprehend of fully (yet)...

But as to judging "serious sin" from, I guess, "not so serious" sin, (I guess) as some have said...? How do you know which is less or greater, or more or less serious...? and what is less or greater may be specific and different and custom tailored to each individual by an individual by individual case, in God's eyes...

I can't believe some think they can be God and determine that... That's gotta be a sin in itself, as I am about to explain in a bit, the sin of the Devil...

So, I guess if you only sin a little or minorly, then you can still get into heaven or be forgiven, but if not, if you commit more serious sin, (in some mere man's eyes, not taking in all the individual factors with individuals), anyways, I guess if you commit more serious sin, then you go to the lake of fire to be tormented forever, right...?

One of the greatest deceptions of the enemy is not mainly or primarily worship of him, but trying to get you to commit the same kind of sin he does, to try to prevent the advocate advocating for you to get into heaven, and in opposing this one and our getting in, Satan tries to get us all to commit the same sin as him, mainly and primarily now, so that he get off, or get out of a trap of being judged by God for his sins, by getting us to do the same, those who do the same as him, would have to condemned along with him, if God was to condemn him...

That sin is thinking you are God, even when your not fully aware you doing it, like some on here...

The best defense for this move of Satan, trying to basically hold us hostage now, or use us as a shield, most unaware of it, like some on here, the best defense is to not be commiting the same sin(s) as him, which I call, "more serious" (and jeapordizing) sin...

For more on the court case going on, see here:

A theoretical conversation between God, the Father, and God, the Son...

Satan has stood up in opposition to the plans of our advocate (J.C.) and opposes him, cause he does not like us, or him...

J.C. is saying why we should get in, Satan is saying why we should not...

God Bless!

How do some of you guys think you can judge such things...?

Are you God...?

Do you not see how blind you are...?

Satan having been defeated as to trying to prevent us getting in, now has to pay the price for the risk involved in what he did, and so, this last move of his is try to get us to be guilty of the same sin as him, (get us to be our own God), failing at the former, he'll settle with trying to take us with him, those of us who do this, the same as him... And... if he can do that, God is put in the position of having to condemn them, if he chooses to condemn him (Satan)...

Boy he really hates us, and God too, or at least envies God to the point of insanity, and hates our advocate, Christ Jesus, or God, the Son...

What will happen to those ones who are guilty of the same as Satan...? I don't know, but our best defense is not be doing the same as him (Satan), that much, I know...

God Bless!

Re-posting...

The Father was just waiting on the Son to propose this plan, being omniscient and all...