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I think you guys are missing a very important point:

The OP is asking for objective evidence that is not subjective evidence contingent on faith in the framework that claims that evidence to be true.

As Christians we have faith that the Bible is true, but it is ultimately faith. Quoting something as proof that requires that same faith for belief in the first place isn't going to get anywhere.
Real things are objective by nature.
 
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I stated what I'm looking for.
Sure. But that doesn't automatically mean it's a reasonable request.

Real things are objective by nature.
No, not necessarily. Someone likes chocolate. That they like chocolate is very much real. But liking chocolate is completely subjective.
 
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Hello UnderPar.

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king is coming to you; He is just and endowed with salvation,
Humble, and mounted on a donkey, even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

There were four separate accounts of this king riding a donkey. This event occurred two thousand years ago, how many accounts do you want?
Accounts that line up.
 
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Accounts that line up.
Hello UnderPar.

The four accounts of the life of Jesus are identical, in that they each describe the same significant events during His public life. Yet the four accounts differ in fine details, which is exactly what we would expect to observe, given the accounts are derived from different witnesses.

If the accounts were fictional they would not differ from one another, real world accounts will differ. That is one way we know that we are reading authentic accounts.
 
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Are you tempting me with the fruit from the tree of forbidden knowledge. You know your God never said that we can eat from good and evil.
It's too late
We already did
Now we have to make a right judgement between good and evil
 
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Hello UnderPar.

The four accounts of the life of Jesus are identical, in that they each describe the same significant events during His public life. Yet the four accounts differ in fine details, which is exactly what we would expect to observe, given the accounts are derived from different witnesses.

If the accounts were fictional they would not differ from one another, real world accounts will differ. That is one way we know that we are reading authentic accounts.
Oh, the world's accounts differ now.
 
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And therein lies the worlds dilemma.

Not really. The verdict was given in John 3 concerning the light
And of course not all will receive HIM but only those whom the FATHER has given HIM out of the world

They are those who have truly believed that HE came forth from
GOD

Just as John 17 shows
 
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If I never get the evidence that Jesus is God, and because of this I can never be sure. If I end up not believing in him in this life, but it ends up that Jesus is real. Will he judge me based on this factor?

That's just it, I don't want to believe and believe more. I want to know he's real. So far not one Christian has made a convincing argument or offered me any evidence that their God is real.

Hello,

First, in order to say you believe God does not exist, would indicate that you yourself are a god, knowing all things, to make such a judgment call. Scientific Method comes to mind.

Second, the bible clearly states that Jesus is God, and if you read the bible, the scripture you read states that many times. John 1 comes to mind as well as combining Genesis 1 with it.

Thirdly, Atheists strongest weapon ( or so they think) actually backfires on them. Science proves God exists if one looks at it honestly.

Law of Causality

Law of Biogenesis

1st and 2nd Law of Thermodynamics

All laws in which secular and religious agree upon. Its the denial part that catches many who wish not to see this.

No one has ever proved or can prove that non life can miraculously spawn life from dead matter to living matter. It just cannot be done, unless there is a God. There is no way around this.

There is no proof that a non human can create a human. This also has never happened and will never happen. No way around this either. You either are a human or you are not.

I pray God will not harden your heart and that He opens it up to seeking Him out. Have a wonderful weekend.
 
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Hello,

First, in order to say you believe God does not exist, would indicate that you yourself are a god, knowing all things, to make such a judgment call. Scientific Method comes to mind.

Second, the bible clearly states that Jesus is God, and if you read the bible, the scripture you read states that many times. John 1 comes to mind as well as combining Genesis 1 with it.

Thirdly, Atheists strongest weapon ( or so they think) actually backfires on them. Science proves God exists if one looks at it honestly.

Law of Causality

Law of Biogenesis

1st and 2nd Law of Thermodynamics

All laws in which secular and religious agree upon. Its the denial part that catches many who wish not to see this.

No one has ever proved or can prove that non life can miraculously spawn life from dead matter to living matter. It just cannot be done, unless there is a God. There is no way around this.

There is no proof that a non human can create a human. This also has never happened and will never happen. No way around this either. You either are a human or you are not.

I pray God will not harden your heart and that He opens it up to seeking Him out. Have a wonderful weekend.
Actually, who says this is life?
 
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Actually, who says this is life?

Your silly :smiley:. The very fact you are breathing, the fact you feel pain, the fact of everything you do, see, feel, hear, smell, you are alive and this is life.

Who says this is not life?
 
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Your silly :smiley:. The very fact you are breathing, the fact you feel pain, the fact of everything you do, see, feel, hear, smell, you are alive and this is life.

Who says this is not life?
Reality says.
 
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According to the gospels lots of things happened, but according to what other sources did Jesus ride in on(One, or two donkeys?)
It was difficult to ride the two without a large saddle, so He rode just one. The other one tagged along in case the first one got tired.
 
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