What is the purpose of the thousand-year reign of Christ?

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God promised that if Israel received all of the land promised, there would be a total of six cities of refuge.

Deuteronomy 19
7 Therefore, I command you, saying, ‘You shall set aside three cities for yourself.’
8 “If the Lord your God enlarges your territory, just as He has sworn to your fathers, and gives you all the land which He promised to give your fathers
9 if you carefully observe all this commandment which I command you today, to love the Lord your God, and to walk in His ways always—then you shall add three more cities for yourself, besides these three.

Joshua 20
7 And they appointed Kedesh in Galilee in mount Naphtali, and Shechem in mount Ephraim, and Kirjatharba, which is Hebron, in the mountain of Judah.
8 And on the other side Jordan by Jericho eastward, they assigned Bezer in the wilderness upon the plain out of the tribe of Reuben, and Ramoth in Gilead out of the tribe of Gad, and Golan in Bashan out of the tribe of Manasseh.
9 These were the cities appointed for all the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them, that whosoever killeth any person at unawares might flee thither, and not die by the hand of the avenger of blood, until he stood before the congregation.


This is further evidence which Joshua 21:43 subsequently confirms.


No mount of dancing, squirming and wriggling around you do, there is nothing in your above Post that comes close to providing the occupation of the land by Israel, to the Euphrates river, 650 miles from Jerusalem. Which will not take place until Jesus reigns on the throne of David for 1,000 years, as I keep telling you!


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No mount of dancing, squirming and wriggling around you do, there is nothing in your above Post that comes close to providing the occupation of the land by Israel, to the Euphrates river, 650 miles from Jerusalem. Which will not take place until Jesus reigns on the throne of David for 1,000 years, as I keep telling you!


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You do not seem to know who is the "heir" to the land.


Mat 21:37  But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 
Mat 21:38  But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 
Mat 21:39  And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 
Mat 21:40  When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 
Mat 21:41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. 
Mat 21:42  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 
Mat 21:43  Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 
Mat 21:44  And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. 
Mat 21:45  And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. 


1Pe 2:4  To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, 
1Pe 2:5  Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 
1Pe 2:6  Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 
1Pe 2:7  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 
1Pe 2:8  And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 
1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 
1Pe 2:10  Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 



You are trying to give the land back to those who have rejected the chief cornerstone, who is the Son of God.
He is "heir" to the land.


1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 

1Jn 2:23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 



You are advocating for the "Greater Israel" project, which is a part of the plan for world government. It is a deception of the worst kind, because millions of Christians have bought into it.

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Not according to:
Joshua 21

43 And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.

This can be interpreted as their fathers meaning their direct fathers.. Remember the Jews who escaped Egypt all died in the wilderness because they rebelled against Gods command for them to go in and possess the promised land which was promised to them.. So their childeren grew up in the wilderness and eventually possesed the land that was promised to their fathers ...

It is clear that the OT Israel never included all the land from the Euprates to the Nile rivers.. that land will be given to them during the1000 year reign of Jesus on earth..
 
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where does it say Christ will reign?

Revelation chapter 20..

Revelation 20: KJV
4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. {5} But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. {6} Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. {7} And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, {8} And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. {9} And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

Note in verse 9 after the 1000 years is finished the Gog magog army of satan will suround the camp of the saints.. Meaning the Saints will not be in heaven at this time but on earth near the beloved City ( Jerusalem )....
 
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No mount of dancing, squirming and wriggling around you do, there is nothing in your above Post that comes close to providing the occupation of the land by Israel, to the Euphrates river, 650 miles from Jerusalem. Which will not take place until Jesus reigns on the throne of David for 1,000 years, as I keep telling you!


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Heh Heh...the writer of Joshua would be amused to know what a good dancer, squirmer, and wriggler he is.
 
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You do not seem to know who is the "heir" to the land.


Mat 21:37  But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 
Mat 21:38  But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 
Mat 21:39  And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 
Mat 21:40  When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 
Mat 21:41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. 
Mat 21:42  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 
Mat 21:43  Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 
Mat 21:44  And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. 
Mat 21:45  And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. 


1Pe 2:4  To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, 
1Pe 2:5  Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 
1Pe 2:6  Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 
1Pe 2:7  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 
1Pe 2:8  And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 
1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 
1Pe 2:10  Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 



You are trying to give the land back to those who have rejected the chief cornerstone, who is the Son of God.
He is "heir" to the land.


1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 

1Jn 2:23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 



You are advocating for the "Greater Israel" project, which is a part of the plan for world government. It is a deception of the worst kind, because millions of Christians have bought into it.

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MILLENNIAL KINGDOM OF CHRIST HERE ON EARTH

The Millennial Kingdom is derived from the Latin words (mile), meaning "one thousand" and annim, meaning "year". This kingdom takes place immediately following the physical return of the Messiah Jesus Christ to earth. We don't know very much about this time. If one follows a literal translation of the scripture, one can expect this time or age to last 1000 years.

Does this mean the Kingdom has to be exactly 1,000 years? There are instances in Scripture where large numbers like this were rounded off and used simply to designate a very, very long period of time (e.g., Psalms 90:4, 105:8).(6)

The Reshaping Of Israel:

One of the purposes of the 1000 year earthly kingdom of Christ will be to vindicate His chosen people Israel before the eyes of all nations. There will probably be another yet to be created temple. This would be the temple that Ezekiel envisioned in chapters 40-48. Although the size of this new temple will be much larger than any temple ever built, tribulation prophecies predict a reshaping of this geographical area with earthquakes and other events.

Consider Zechariah 14:4

And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.

Since the Messiah will rule as king over all the world it is not unreasonable to believe that Ezekiel's temple is a literal temple and the boarders and boundaries of Jerusalem will be greatly increased (to maybe 40 miles in circumference) under the kingship of Messiah.

Messiah As King:

We do know that Jesus will reign from Jerusalem as the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. His political authority will be respected (Daniel 2:35, Isaiah 11:4). At this time the kingdom of God will be fully realized on earth. Messiahs' Kingship will be characterized by righteousness and justice. The center of his government will be in Jerusalem (Isa. 2:3). Messiah as King was for told by Isaiah in one of the best known prophecies Unto Us A Child Is Born (Isaiah 9:6).

A Time Of Peace:

Israel will live in a time of unprecedented peace as the prophecy says in Isaiah 2:4 And He will judge between the nations, And will render decisions for many peoples; And they will hammer their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, And never again will they learn war.

Other bible verses that talk about the peace that this kingdom will bring include Isaiah 11:5-9, Isaiah 55:25 and Micah 4:3.

One of the names for the Messiah is The Prince Of Peace.


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The Rapture and return with Jesus. Although Christians believe that only those who knew Christ will take part in this resurrection, the bible makes it clear that several Old Testament Saints "looked forward" to a time when the Messiah would come. The prophets talked about it, Moses predicted it and I am sure at least part of Israel believed in it.

Along with the Old Testament Saints will be believers in Jesus who were raptured (also known as the church). The kingdom will also be made up of Tribulation Saints both Jew and Gentile. These saints are made up of those who put their faith in Messiah Jesus after the rapture, during the Tribulation Period.

The Law During The Millennial Kingdom:

What will be the ruling law during the Millennium? The covenant that will be in place is the same covenant that is already in place for believers in the Messiah. The New Covenant promised in Jer. 31:31. This covenant allows for the Messiah to be King of all Kings, with God's true purpose and desires for us to be written in our hearts, not on a scroll or in a book. It may include things that will pay tribute to the Messiah and all of His accomplishments. Will there be a sacrificial system instituted? Please read Will Animal Sacrifices Be Reinstated During The Millennial Kingdom? Our desire to do right over wrong will be the norm along with loving your neighbor as one loves themselves. Out of this genuine desire to do good will come a lifestyle that is pleasing to the Lord, regardless of what it consists of.

Some biblical feast like the Feast of Tabernacles may still be celebrated, probably by looking back and appreciating the accomplishments of the Messiah, our redeemer. who will be dwelling with us during the Millennium. Many interpret Zech. 14:15-19 to teach that during the Millennial Kingdom reign of Messiah, any nation or family that fails to come to Jerusalem to observe Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles) will receive no rain for their lands.

Cities of Refuge: Three New Cities of Refuge? There may be three cities of refuge established when the millennial Kingdom is here. This is based on the idea that Deut. 19-7-9 talk about these cities and expanded borders for Israel. Since Israels final borders have not been expanded yet it is believed that with these final borders these three cities of refuge will also be established.

Maimonides supports this view. (Hilkhot Rotze’ah u-Shmirat ha-Nefesh, 8.4):(4)

Other Millennial Views:

There are three main views concerning the Millennial Kingdom.
PreMillennialism (supported by this page) PostMillennialism and Amillennialism.

End Of The Millennial Kingdom:

The Millennial Kingdom seem to come to an end with one large final battle known as the battle of Gog and Magog. Originally these were the names of ancient enemies of the Lord. Magog was the grandson of Noah (Gen:10:2) and founder of a kingdom North of the Black and Caspian Seas. Gog is apparently the leader of a rebel army known collectively as Magog. The battle described in Revelation 20:8-9 is similar to the one described by Ezekiel in his book around chapters 38 and 39.(1)

Nothing in this prophecy (battle of Gog and Magog) corresponds with the details of Israel’s invasion by either the Babylonians (586 B.C.) or the Romans (70 A.D. ). Therefore, any literal fulfillment of this prophecy must yet be in the future.(2)

At the close of the Millennium, there will be an immediate transition into the Eternal State - which is merely an extension of the King's temporal reign into timeless eternity, when references to numbers of years will be meaningless.(6)

Miscellaneous:

What Happens To The Devil During The 1000 Year Millennial Kingdom?

Praying for this time or kingdom to come is found in the example that Jesus taught us when He taught what is known as the Lords Prayer. (Thy Kingdom Come).

Some believe that this will be a fulfillment of Psalm 2:6-9 ushering in the most incredible kingdom in all of human history. Fulfillment of this part od Psalm 2 finds the Messiah, the anointed king, having the nations for His inheritance.

Even with the Messiah ruling as king, some people will choose to violate his rulings causing admonition and judgment.

Some believe that this stage of prophetic time followed by the Great White Throne Judgment will immediately precede eternity.

The possibility exist that everyone will once again speak the same language. This idea comes from a loose interpretation of Zephaniah 3:9.

Some believe that King David will be resurrected and rule under Christ. Biblical references for this idea are (Ezek. 34:23-24 and Ezek. 37:24-25. Also Jer. 30:9 and Jer. 33:15-17).

At the end of the Millennial Kingdom is the Great White Throne Judgment.

Often Isaiah 11:1-10 and Psalm 72 1:19 are linked together. Psalm 72 Is A Messianic Psalm that looks forward to the

Millennial Kingdom.

Giving Jesus the title, "The Son of David" points to His Kingship.

On Passover the Seder Meal ends with "Next Year in Jerusalem." This is in direct reference to the Messiah coming and setting up His Kingdom there.

Because the Bible says "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved" (Acts 16:31), some believe the Messianic Age has already begun. The Messianic Age is often considered to be the period between Christ's first and second comings. Although it spans close to 2000 years it is still considered by some to be the last days.

The talmud teaches that even in the days of the Messianic Era there will still be poor people. The main difference will be Israel will no longer be subject to foreign powers. This is based on Deuteronomy 15:11. (5)

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Note in verse 9 after the 1000 years is finished the Gog magog army of satan will suround the camp of the saints.. Meaning the Saints will not be in heaven at this time but on earth near the beloved City ( Jerusalem )....
so where does it say Christ will reign a thousand years?
 
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You do not seem to know who is the "heir" to the land.


Mat 21:37  But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 
Mat 21:38  But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 
Mat 21:39  And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 
Mat 21:40  When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 
Mat 21:41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. 
Mat 21:42  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 
Mat 21:43  Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 
Mat 21:44  And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. 
Mat 21:45  And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. 


1Pe 2:4  To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, 
1Pe 2:5  Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 
1Pe 2:6  Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 
1Pe 2:7  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 
1Pe 2:8  And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 
1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 
1Pe 2:10  Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 



You are trying to give the land back to those who have rejected the chief cornerstone, who is the Son of God.
He is "heir" to the land.


1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 

1Jn 2:23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 



You are advocating for the "Greater Israel" project, which is a part of the plan for world government. It is a deception of the worst kind, because millions of Christians have bought into it.

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The Church is not spiritual Israel:


The church that started at Pentecost is not symbolically or spiritually called Israel, according to the Scriptures. Neither has the church replaced Israel so that it will receive the promises that God gave to Israel. There are some verses that could be twisted, by those lacking spiritual discernment or liberals, making it look like the name Israel means the church. Israel is never replaced by the church! Some “Christians”, like those at “Christ at the Checkpoint” conferences, falsely believe that the church has taken the place of Israel so that God can use them to solve the Israeli and Palestinian conflict! They take Scriptures out of context to prove their point and throw Old Testament prophesies in the fire, like Jehoiakim, king of Judah did, Jeremiah 36.

Romans 9:6-8 “Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
Here, Paul may be addressing those who thought they were entitled to the Promised Land, no matter what they believed. This is not addressing the church as Israel. God did not count those Jews who rejected Him as the true Israel. To be entitled to the Promised Land as a Jew in the Messiah’s Kingdom, the individual Jew has to believe on Jesus, just as Abraham and Isaac did. Even though they did not know Jesus by name at that time, they trusted that God would send a Saviour, as He promised! The true Israelite must be born in the flesh, and in their spirit, by the Spirit of God. True Israel is only the saved Jewish remnant!

Romans 11:2-5 “God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.”
God is all knowing. He will not force Jews to be saved, but He did know that there would be a remnant who would freely accept Him as their Saviour. These are real Jews, not the church replacing Israel! Elias (Elijah) had a pity party, and God told Him that there were still other Jews serving Him. The people who Elijah was told about were Jews according to the flesh, just like those being saved in Paul’s time. Paul said that even during his time there was still a remnant of Israel who was being saved. This Scripture is evidence that God will continue to have a remnant of Jews to receive the promises made to Abraham!

Romans 11:25 “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”
The big-brained liberals who teaches Replacement Theology says that Romans 11 is talking about the church when it says Israel. So, am I to believe Israel, “the church” had to be blinded so that the Gentiles could be saved? That would not make any sense to a school boy. No! Israel is Israel and the church is the church! When God completes His goal to win many Gentiles, He will open the eyes of the Jews once again. Many liberal “Christians” allow their brains to puff up with pride. They think that they have replaced Israel. But, God is not through with Israel.He still needs to add to the Jewish remnant, who will see the fulfillment of the promises to Abraham.

Galatians 6:16 “And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.”
This simply means that God owns Israel, and they certainly do need peace and mercy. God formed Israel in the beginning, and He has molded and refined Israel ever since.

If you read the book of Acts, you will find that both the words Israel and church appear many times. They are never interchangeable. They are two separate things. The church will never replace Israel and receive the Promised Land as an inheritance. The church is not promised by God to even share the Promised Land with the Jews. The church is not Israel, and they have no guarantee to inherit the land that God promised Israel. But, God uses the church to glean the Jewish remnant from the fields of the world. In the future, the church will come with Jesus when He carries out God’s final solution for the Israeli and Palestinian conflict. Meanwhile, the church can help God with the future final solution by winning Jews to Jesus, praying for them, supporting them financially, and by standing up for them instead of against them!

HIBM Editorial by Avi Goldstein * The Church Is Not Spiritual Israel! – Dr. K. Daniel Fried, Editor in Chief


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No mount of dancing, squirming and wriggling around you do, there is nothing in your above Post that comes close to providing the occupation of the land by Israel, to the Euphrates river, 650 miles from Jerusalem. Which will not take place until Jesus reigns on the throne of David for 1,000 years, as I keep telling you!


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There you have it, folks. Continued insistent rejection of inspired inerrant Scripture.

Another revealing window into the psychotic mirages of the dispensational imagination.
 
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As I previously posted, those covenants will all be fulfilled during Jesus 1,000 year reign. God stated in the coming new heaven nd earth, that He makes EVERYTHING new in Rev.21.
I think you're missing my point. The point is that there is no such thing as "eternity" in a 1000 year span. In order for all those eternal promises to be fulfilled, they have to be fulfilled on the new earth, not on this temporary earth. It would be literally impossible.
 
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Heh Heh...the writer of Joshua would be amused to know what a good dancer, squirmer, and wriggler he is.


The following reveals the stretch you keep trying to make out of Jos.21:43, to make it fit what you want it to sy, as I previously posted:

>>>No mount of dancing, squirming and wriggling around you do, there is nothing in your above Post that comes close to providing the occupation of the land by Israel, to the Euphrates river, 650 miles from Jerusalem. Which will not take place until Jesus reigns on the throne of David for 1,000 years, as I keep telling you!<<<


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so where does it say Christ will reign a thousand years?
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Revelation 20 KJV

4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
 
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I think you're missing my point. The point is that there is no such thing as "eternity" in a 1000 year span. In order for all those eternal promises to be fulfilled, they have to be fulfilled on the new earth, not on this temporary earth. It would be literally impossible.


First of all, there has been more than six 1,000 year periods of the present age, so far. The 1.000 year reign of Christ on the throne of David, in the restored kingdom of Israel is predominately documented in the Bible, as previously recorded in various threads in this forum. 1.000 years is found no les than six times in Rev.20, which should be sufficient for all readers of the text, it is literal.

The 1,000 years of Jesus reign on earth, together with everyone on earth at that time who belong to Him, are all realizing their first 1,000 years of eternity. When that 1,000 years is over, they will all be moved into the new heaven and earth for the ret of eternity.


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First of all, there has been more than six 1,000 year periods of the present age, so far. The 1.000 year reign of Christ on the throne of David, in the restored kingdom of Israel is predominately documented in the Bible, as previously recorded in various threads in this forum. 1.000 years is found no les than six times in Rev.20, which should be sufficient for all readers of the text, it is literal.

The 1,000 years of Jesus reign on earth, together with everyone on earth at that time who belong to Him, are all realizing their first 1,000 years of eternity. When that 1,000 years is over, they will all be moved into the new heaven and earth for the ret of eternity.

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So you're saying that eternity begins at the start of the thousand years? Well, I guess depending on how you look at things that could be valid. Of course then we could also say that eternity began in the garden of Eden, but whatever. If that's how you like to look at things that's your prerogative.

However, I still have an issue with your logic.

You said "The purpose of the 1,000-year reign is to fulfill promises God made to the world that cannot be fulfilled while Satan is free and humans have political authority."

Yet those same promises can be fulfilled on the new earth, after Satan's been destroyed never to return. In fact, it probably makes more sense, if Satan is a stumbling block to these promises as you say, to wait until Satan is completely destroyed. Don't you think?

In other words, why would God use a one thousand year period to begin to fulfill eternal promises for the reason that Satan is not around to interfere (as you said), when that same Satan will be loosed again for a short time at the end of the thousand years. Won't he be able to interfere then?
 
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where does it say Christ will reign?

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Jesus doesn't need an earthly throne. Jesus' throne is in heaven: "HEAVEN IS MY THRONE, AND EARTH IS MY FOOTSTOOL: WHAT HOUSE WILL YE BUILD ME? SAITH THE LORD: OR WHAT IS THE PLACE OF MY REST?" ACTS 7:49; ISA. 66:1
 
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