Love of Truth and the criterion of scientific character

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Here below is the quote from the fundamental research article in
Some Thoughts on Faith and Knowledge (Ходящий По Лжи) / Проза.ру

The criterion of scientific theory excludes the possibility of True Theory:
"Scientist must be able to refute any theory." The scientist is pooled into the destruction of the foundations and effects. The most convenient "philosophy" hereby is the false atheism. The adjective "false" describes the fact, what the sentence of atheism "No God" is proven wrong.

Proven wrong already by Jesus Christ, but also by the Thomas Aquinas, by many others and by me: term "reality" means "created by True God", the reality is there and touchable, so there is True God. Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Matthew 22:37.

"To refute" Einstein is very simple: "Now science does not know, but (for the infinity of future research) can be said with certainty: Einstein's error will be detected."

And as He said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge Him vehemently, and to provoke Him to speak of many things: Laying wait for Him, and seeking to catch something out of His mouth, that they might accuse Him. (Luke 11:53-54).

Scientists have introduced themselves artificial rules of research (But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matthew 15:9). They do not lead to the creation of an intelligent life, but to unreasonable destruction. But the God blessed path of Truth makes people happy:

I propose to change the skeptical sign in Popper's criterion following way:
"a scientist must be able to confirm a theory or hypothesis." At the same time, confirmation tests can destroy the theory, but destruction is not the goal of the activity of scientists. The God can only be confirmed by researcher (if the researcher has stopped to exist, then he can not experience the negative result of the test), so the God necessarily exists. Applicable philosophy: Creationism, the Natural Theology. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1.
 
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I propose to change the skeptical sign in Popper's criterion following way:

"a scientist must be able to confirm a theory or hypothesis."

Aha, so you are a logical positivist. Unfortunately, even A J Ayer gave up on that.

It is very easy to "confirm" Aristotle's ideas about mechanics. If I stop pushing something it stops moving. On the other hand, the harder I push it, the faster it moves. But the heavier it is, the harder I have to push it for a given velocity.

Very clearly then, velocity is proportional to force, inversely proportional to mass, everything is confirmed, and Aristotle was right. Except that he was wrong, and Newton was right, or at least a lot more right than Aristotle was.

I think I will stick with Popper.
 
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Here below is the quote from the fundamental research article in
Some Thoughts on Faith and Knowledge (Ходящий По Лжи) / Проза.ру

The criterion of scientific theory excludes the possibility of True Theory:
"Scientist must be able to refute any theory." The scientist is pooled into the destruction of the foundations and effects. The most convenient "philosophy" hereby is the false atheism. The adjective "false" describes the fact, what the sentence of atheism "No God" is proven wrong.

Proven wrong already by Jesus Christ, but also by the Thomas Aquinas, by many others and by me: term "reality" means "created by True God", the reality is there and touchable, so there is True God. Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Matthew 22:37.

"To refute" Einstein is very simple: "Now science does not know, but (for the infinity of future research) can be said with certainty: Einstein's error will be detected."

And as He said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge Him vehemently, and to provoke Him to speak of many things: Laying wait for Him, and seeking to catch something out of His mouth, that they might accuse Him. (Luke 11:53-54).

Scientists have introduced themselves artificial rules of research (But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matthew 15:9). They do not lead to the creation of an intelligent life, but to unreasonable destruction. But the God blessed path of Truth makes people happy:

I propose to change the skeptical sign in Popper's criterion following way:
"a scientist must be able to confirm a theory or hypothesis." At the same time, confirmation tests can destroy the theory, but destruction is not the goal of the activity of scientists. Applicable philosophy: Creationism, the Natural Theology. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1.

Mixing science with religion is a very bad idea.
 
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Aha, so you are a logical positivist. Unfortunately, even A J Ayer gave up on that.

It is very easy to "confirm" Aristotle's ideas about mechanics. If I stop pushing something it stops moving. On the other hand, the harder I push it, the faster it moves. But the heavier it is, the harder I have to push it for a given velocity.

Very clearly then, velocity is proportional to force, inversely proportional to mass, everything is confirmed, and Aristotle was right. .....
The Technical Science is based on Standard Instruments of Metrology. So, application of these instruments have shown us the formulas for some of the Aristotle's enlightenments.
 
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Oh dear. Random capitalisation of abstract notions is always a sign I'm going to disagree with a piece of writing. Puts me in mind of a Terry Pratchett quote:

"He could think in italics. Such people need watching.

Preferably from a safe distance."​

Would it be fair to say this?

"Truth is that which comports with reality."

Therefore, the wider and more accurate our understanding of reality, the more truth can be discovered.

Also, as an aside: you still don't understand what atheism is and what it isn't, do you?
 
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The Technical Science is based on Standard Instruments of Metrology. So, application of these instruments have shown us the formulas for some of the Aristotle's enlightenments.

Aristotle was wrong. Plain and simple.
 
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I dont belive in heaven som I'm not sure what point you think you are making.
The Heaven is the ideal place of Love and compassion. So, in a perfect world there will be no divisions inside the humankind. But the separation between the faith and reason is a sin.
 
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The Aristotle was wrong not in all his words.

Aristotle had an incorrect notion about the physical world, but one which could apparently be verified. Therefore the correct criterion for a scientific theory is not whether it is verifiable, but whether or not it is, in principle, falsifiable.
 
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Aristotle had an incorrect notion about the physical world, but one which could apparently be verified. Therefore the correct criterion for a scientific theory is not whether it is verifiable, but whether or not it is, in principle, falsifiable.
There is no difficulties to consider all theories false: any theory can be refuted in a future.
 
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There is no difficulties to consider all theories false: any theory can be refuted in a future.

Theories should be considered true for as long as they accord with observation and have explanatory power.

If, at some point, a theory fails to accord with observation, then the time will have come to start looking for a replacement theory, which can explain at least as much as the old theory accounted for, as well as accounting for the new observations.
 
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Theories should be considered true for as long as they accord with observation and have explanatory power.

If, at some point, a theory fails to accord with observation, then the time will have come to start looking for a replacement theory, which can explain at least as much as the old theory accounted for, as well as accounting for the new observations.
It is not the practice in scientific community. The latter has the Presumption of Guilt, or the burden of proof. You are talking about my idea of the Presumption of Innocence.
 
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