God's Sabbath rest is not a weekly seventh day rest

Doveaman · Jul 9, 2017

"By the seventh day God had finished the works He had been doing; so on the seventh day He rested from all His works. And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on it He rested from all the works of creating that He had done." -- (Genesis 2:2-3).

God’s Sabbath-rest occurred when God finished and permanently ceased from all His works of creation, and it was on the seventh day of creation week that God permanently ceased from all His works.

There is a distinction between God’s Sabbath-rest (the permanent ceasing from works) and the later established seventh-day rest (the temporary ceasing from works).

The seventh-day rest was established after God had already finished and permanently ceased from all His works. The seventh-day rest, then, was simply a temporary, weekly reminder of the permanent, unceasing reality of God’s Sabbath-rest from creation.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. - Colossians 2:16-17

The seventh-day rest was a temporary, physical shadow or reflection, that represented the permanent, spiritual reality of God’s Sabbath-rest from Creation, a spiritual reality of rest that is now found only in the body of Christ:

“Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest…and you will find rest for your souls.” - Matthew 11:28-29

We who are born-again into the body of Christ are born into the permanent, spiritual reality of God’s Sabbath-rest, where we find permanent rest for our souls from our fleshly works of sin.

There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own works, just as God did from His. - Hebrews 4:9-10

The Sabbath-rest for the people of God is a permanent, unceasing rest from our fleshly works of human nature, just as God’s Sabbath-rest is a permanent, unceasing rest from His physical works of creation.

Kenny'sID · Jul 9, 2017

Doveaman said:
The seventh day rest was a temporary, physical shadow or semblance, representing the permanent, spiritual reality of God’s rest found only in Christ:

I don't think it represented anything but what the bible clearly states.

We can always find a way and turn whatever were want into whatever we want, but in this case, I have no good reason to believe the Sabbath is now anything more or less than a commandment by God to rest 1 day a week, that came about for reasons you mentioned...God rested after his work and wanted us to as well.

He wanted that because he simply thought it would be good for us to rest from physical labor once a week, as well as dwell on him. Made perfect sense then and still does.

What you are saying here is not an uncommon teaching, but it reminds me of a creed I once heard that goes into a long winded explanation that sounded good to many, but in the end, all it did was turn a simple and obvious truth into something else.

woobadooba · Jul 9, 2017

Doveaman said:
By the seventh day God had finished the works He had been doing; so on the seventh day He rested from all His works. And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on it He rested from all the works of creating that He had done. - Genesis 2:2-3

God’s Sabbath rest is God finishing and permanently ceasing from all the physical works of His creation, and it was on the seventh day of creation week that God permanently ceased from all His physical works.

There is a distinction between God’s Sabbath rest (a permanent ceasing from physical works) and the later established seventh day rest (a temporary ceasing from physical works).

The seventh day rest was established after God had already finished and permanently ceased from His physical works of creation. The seventh day rest, then, was simply a temporary, weekly reminder of the permanent, unceasing reality of God’s rest from creation.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. - Colossians 2:16-17

The seventh day rest was a temporary, physical shadow or semblance, representing the permanent, spiritual reality of God’s rest found only in Christ:

“Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest…and you will find rest for your souls.” - Matthew 11:28-29

We who are born-again into the life of Christ are born into the permanent, spiritual reality of God’s rest where we find permanent rest for our souls from the physical works of human nature (the fleshly works of sin).

There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own works, just as God did from His. - Hebrews 4:9-10

The Sabbath rest for the people of God is a permanent, unceasing rest from the physical works of our human nature, just as God’s Sabbath rest is a permanent, unceasing rest from the physical works of His creation.

You have taken these verses out of context.

You are free to believe what you want, but as for me and anyone else who desires to do what is pleasing to God, we will follow His commandments. Not the opinions of men who do not know how to do proper exegesis.

mark kennedy · Jul 9, 2017

You left out a pretty important proof text:

“Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. (Ex. 20:8-11)

God didn't rest from his work because he was tired, but because it was complete in all it's vast array. Not only were you to refrain from work but the entire household, servants and beasts of burden were given a rest. It was a perpetual reminder of God's work during creation week, just as Passover, the feast of unleavened bread and Tabernacles commemorated the Exodus and the wilderness wanderings. Israel went into exile for not obeying one particular Sabbath, the Sabbath rest every 7 years for the land (Jeremiah 25:1-11; 29:1-10).

to fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed its sabbaths. All the days of its desolation it kept sabbath until seventy years were complete. (2 Chronicles 36:21).

The importance of the Sabbath Rest(s) should not be trivialized, even thought they are clearly fulfilled in Christ. Knowing what they mean is vital to sound exegesis of the Old Testament and the fulfillment found in Christ:

The original setting for this prophecy takes place hundreds of years before Daniel is even born. God had commanded Israel to set aside the seventh year of each agricultural cycle in order for the land to receive a Sabbath rest (Leviticus 25:1-7). The same way man was to receive the seventh day as a day off, known as the Sabbath, the land was to receive the seventh year off, known as a Sabbath Year or a Sabbath to the Lord. God warns Israel in general about the punishments that will follow if this commandment is not obeyed (Leviticus 26: 27-46).

Israel's lack of the proper spiritual response was disobedient to God's commandment and as a result for 490 consecutive years Israel never let the land have a Sabbath Year's rest. This came to a total of 70 missed Sabbath Year's of rest for the land. As a punishment to Israel for this specific disobedience, God allowed Israel to be taken captive for a period of 70 years (2 Chronicles 36:21). This was in direct correlation equaling one year of captivity for each of the Sabbath Year's rest the land missed out on. (Jewishroots.net)

Not coincidentally the time of the exile was 70 years, coinciding with the years the Sabbath Rest of the land was not observed. It's also vital to redemptive histories timeline prophesied in Danial, the 70 weeks that come to 490 years from the finishing of the walls to the coming of the Messiah.

I wouldn't dismiss the Jewish Sabbath quite so easily, it's a huge Hermeneutics challenge with regards to the Old Testament, the New Testament witness and even our Eschatology.

Grace and peace,
Mark

bugkiller · Jul 9, 2017

mark kennedy said:
You left out a pretty important proof text:

“Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. (Ex. 20:8-11)

God didn't rest from his work because he was tired, but because it was complete in all it's vast array. Not only were you to refrain from work but the entire household, servants and beasts of burden were given a rest. It was a perpetual reminder of God's work during creation week, just as Passover, the feast of unleavened bread and Tabernacles commemorated the Exodus and the wilderness wanderings. Israel went into exile for not obeying one particular Sabbath, the Sabbath rest every 7 years for the land (Jeremiah 25:1-11; 29:1-10).

to fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed its sabbaths. All the days of its desolation it kept sabbath until seventy years were complete. (2 Chronicles 36:21).

The importance of the Sabbath Rest(s) should not be trivialized, even thought they are clearly fulfilled in Christ. Knowing what they mean is vital to sound exegesis of the Old Testament and the fulfillment found in Christ:

The original setting for this prophecy takes place hundreds of years before Daniel is even born. God had commanded Israel to set aside the seventh year of each agricultural cycle in order for the land to receive a Sabbath rest (Leviticus 25:1-7). The same way man was to receive the seventh day as a day off, known as the Sabbath, the land was to receive the seventh year off, known as a Sabbath Year or a Sabbath to the Lord. God warns Israel in general about the punishments that will follow if this commandment is not obeyed (Leviticus 26: 27-46).

Israel's lack of the proper spiritual response was disobedient to God's commandment and as a result for 490 consecutive years Israel never let the land have a Sabbath Year's rest. This came to a total of 70 missed Sabbath Year's of rest for the land. As a punishment to Israel for this specific disobedience, God allowed Israel to be taken captive for a period of 70 years (2 Chronicles 36:21). This was in direct correlation equaling one year of captivity for each of the Sabbath Year's rest the land missed out on. (Jewishroots.net)

Not coincidentally the time of the exile was 70 years, coinciding with the years the Sabbath Rest of the land was not observed. It's also vital to redemptive histories timeline prophesied in Danial, the 70 weeks that come to 490 years from the finishing of the walls to the coming of the Messiah.

I wouldn't dismiss the Jewish Sabbath quite so easily, it's a huge Hermeneutics challenge with regards to the Old Testament, the New Testament witness and even our Eschatology.

Grace and peace,
Mark

Unfortunately they will not pay attention to your quotes. They delight in being disobedient and pay others to sin while condemning them and enjoying the benefits of their labor.

bugkiller

bugkiller · Jul 9, 2017

woobadooba said:
You have taken these verses out of context.

You are free to believe what you want, but as for me and anyone else who desires to do what is pleasing to God, we will follow His commandments. Not the opinions of men who do not know how to do proper exegesis.

Keep kidding yourself.

bugkiller

woobadooba · Jul 9, 2017

bugkiller said:
Keep kidding yourself.

bugkiller

Who is kidding who? You follow man made traditions established by the Catholic Church. I follow the Bible.

bugkiller · Jul 9, 2017

woobadooba said:
Who is kidding who? You follow man made traditions established by the Catholic Church. I follow the Bible.

And where do you get that idea?

bugkiller

woobadooba · Jul 9, 2017

bugkiller said:
And where do you get that idea?

bugkiller

Even if I show you, you still won't believe.

bugkiller · Jul 9, 2017

woobadooba said:
Even if I show you, you still won't believe.

You can not prove I follow the RCC. You also can not prove your doctrine.

bugkiller

mark kennedy · Jul 9, 2017

bugkiller said:
Unfortunately they will not pay attention to your quotes. They delight in being disobedient and pay others to sin while condemning them and enjoying the benefits of their labor.

bugkiller

My interest here was an exegesis of the Jewish Sabbath(s), these observances are non-binding for Gentile believers except with regards to faith in the completed work of Christ.

bugkiller · Jul 9, 2017

mark kennedy said:
My interest here was an exegesis of the Jewish Sabbath(s), these observances are non-binding for Gentile believers except with regards to faith in the completed work of Christ.

I hear ya, they will not.

bugkiller

listed · Jul 10, 2017

woobadooba said:
You have taken these verses out of context.

You are free to believe what you want, but as for me and anyone else who desires to do what is pleasing to God, we will follow His commandments. Not the opinions of men who do not know how to do proper exegesis.

Your only evidence is attacking the poster. The truth be known is you don't adhere to Ex 20:8-11 especially if you're in a 1st world country as evidenced by your posting. Your English is way to good.

listed · Jul 10, 2017

mark kennedy said:
You left out a pretty important proof text:

“Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. (Ex. 20:8-11)

God didn't rest from his work because he was tired, but because it was complete in all it's vast array. Not only were you to refrain from work but the entire household, servants and beasts of burden were given a rest. It was a perpetual reminder of God's work during creation week, just as Passover, the feast of unleavened bread and Tabernacles commemorated the Exodus and the wilderness wanderings. Israel went into exile for not obeying one particular Sabbath, the Sabbath rest every 7 years for the land (Jeremiah 25:1-11; 29:1-10).

to fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed its sabbaths. All the days of its desolation it kept sabbath until seventy years were complete. (2 Chronicles 36:21).

The importance of the Sabbath Rest(s) should not be trivialized, even thought they are clearly fulfilled in Christ. Knowing what they mean is vital to sound exegesis of the Old Testament and the fulfillment found in Christ:

The original setting for this prophecy takes place hundreds of years before Daniel is even born. God had commanded Israel to set aside the seventh year of each agricultural cycle in order for the land to receive a Sabbath rest (Leviticus 25:1-7). The same way man was to receive the seventh day as a day off, known as the Sabbath, the land was to receive the seventh year off, known as a Sabbath Year or a Sabbath to the Lord. God warns Israel in general about the punishments that will follow if this commandment is not obeyed (Leviticus 26: 27-46).

Israel's lack of the proper spiritual response was disobedient to God's commandment and as a result for 490 consecutive years Israel never let the land have a Sabbath Year's rest. This came to a total of 70 missed Sabbath Year's of rest for the land. As a punishment to Israel for this specific disobedience, God allowed Israel to be taken captive for a period of 70 years (2 Chronicles 36:21). This was in direct correlation equaling one year of captivity for each of the Sabbath Year's rest the land missed out on. (Jewishroots.net)

Not coincidentally the time of the exile was 70 years, coinciding with the years the Sabbath Rest of the land was not observed. It's also vital to redemptive histories timeline prophesied in Danial, the 70 weeks that come to 490 years from the finishing of the walls to the coming of the Messiah.

I wouldn't dismiss the Jewish Sabbath quite so easily, it's a huge Hermeneutics challenge with regards to the Old Testament, the New Testament witness and even our Eschatology.

Grace and peace,
Mark

God ceased from His work. God didn't rest from His work. Resting from implies a return to. God didn't return to creating. The word used for rest means cease.

listed · Jul 10, 2017

woobadooba said:
Who is kidding who? You follow man made traditions established by the Catholic Church. I follow the Bible.

I read only accusations with out proof. Truly law thumpers know nothing else. The law only condemns.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jul 10, 2017

"God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on it He rested from all the works of creating that He had done. - Genesis 2:2-3
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Genesis 2 Common English Bible (CEB)
2 The heavens and the earth and all who live in them were completed. 2 On the sixth a]">[a] day God completed all the work that he had done, and on the seventh day God rested from all the work that he had done. 3 God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all the work of creation.b]">[b] 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
On the day the Lord God made earth and sky— 5 before any wild plants appeared on the earth, and before any field crops grew, because the Lord God hadn’t yet sent rain on the earth and there was still no human beingc]">[c] to farm the fertile land, 6 though a stream rose from the earth and watered all of the fertile land— 7 the Lord God formed the humand]">[d] from the topsoil of the fertile lande]">[e] and blew life’s breath into his nostrils. The human came to life. 8 The Lord God planted a garden in Eden in the east and put there the human he had formed. 9 In the fertile land, the Lord God grew every beautiful tree with edible fruit..."

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Hebrews 4:4
Then somewhere he said this about the seventh day of creation: God rested on the seventh day from all his works.
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Exodus 16:26
Six days you will gather it. But on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be nothing to gather.”
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Exodus 16:27
On the seventh day some of the people went out to gather bread, but they found nothing.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jul 10, 2017

Kenny'sID said:
a commandment by God to rest 1 day a week, that came about for reasons you mentioned...God rested after his work and wanted us to as well.

Cool.
God rested.
And... sanctified the seventh day.
Enough for those following Him,
listening to Him.

listed · Jul 10, 2017

yeshuaslavejeff said:
"God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on it He rested from all the works of creating that He had done. - Genesis 2:2-3
"
"
Genesis 2 Common English Bible (CEB)
2 The heavens and the earth and all who live in them were completed. 2 On the sixth a]">[a] day God completed all the work that he had done, and on the seventh day God rested from all the work that he had done. 3 God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all the work of creation.b]">[b] 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
On the day the Lord God made earth and sky— 5 before any wild plants appeared on the earth, and before any field crops grew, because the Lord God hadn’t yet sent rain on the earth and there was still no human beingc]">[c] to farm the fertile land, 6 though a stream rose from the earth and watered all of the fertile land— 7 the Lord God formed the humand]">[d] from the topsoil of the fertile lande]">[e] and blew life’s breath into his nostrils. The human came to life. 8 The Lord God planted a garden in Eden in the east and put there the human he had formed. 9 In the fertile land, the Lord God grew every beautiful tree with edible fruit..."

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Hebrews 4:4
Then somewhere he said this about the seventh day of creation: God rested on the seventh day from all his works.
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Exodus 16:26
Six days you will gather it. But on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be nothing to gather.”
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Exodus 16:27
On the seventh day some of the people went out to gather bread, but they found nothing.

Where is the word "sabbath" in Genesis 2? In fact where is the word "sabbath" found in Genesis? God blessed the 7th day and not the sabbath in Genesis 2. The 7th day isn't the sabbath. The sabbath isn't even mentioned until Exodus 16. Moses gives the reason for the sabbath as remembering creation. Moses doesn't say the sabbath was on the 7th day of creation.

The words used in both Genesis and Hebrews literally mean to cease. They don't mean to pause and return to something.

listed · Jul 10, 2017

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Cool.
God rested.
And... sanctified the seventh day.
Enough for those following Him,
listening to Him.

But not enough for those who will read and study. That doesn't mean not following God.

mark kennedy · Jul 10, 2017

listed said:
God ceased from His work. God didn't rest from His work. Resting from implies a return to. God didn't return to creating. The word used for rest means cease.

Yes, but God didn't stop creating, he ceased from working on the earth and the creation of life because it was finished. He also created the nation of Israel for instance. At the end of the age he will create a new heavens and a new earth, but he stopped working on the original creation because it was finished.

God's Sabbath rest is not a weekly seventh day rest

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