Is it sacrilege?

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Do you think it's a sacrilege to write a story that gives a fictional twist on a story within the Bible?

I am asking because I was reading about Judas and got to wondering....why? Why would he do that?

I kinda want to write a short story...But I don't want to write something sacrilegious either.
 

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Do you think it's a sacrilege to write a story that gives a fictional twist on a story within the Bible?

I am asking because I was reading about Judas and got to wondering....why? Why would he do that?

I kinda want to write a short story...But I don't want to write something sacrilegious either.
I personally am inclined to object to it, because fiction is falsehood, and to state falsehoods of a topic so extremely vital,.. just remember that this might very well be the only chance a person gets to read about Jesus before they are scooped up by an anti-religious lifestyle. That false impression you are planting by the seed of falsehood could stick with them forever and it could prove to be a major stumbling block in their faith.

I do not believe it is good to propagate falsehoods about this topic, nor any other topic that corresponds to a real event where accuracy of truth is vital and falsehoods can have consequences.

On the other hand, a speculative investigation, a thesis into human psyche of Judas could be rather insightful. I suppose it really is all about the impact it has on the reader's faith.
 
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I personally am inclined to object to it, because fiction is falsehood, and to state falsehoods of a topic so extremely vital,.. just remember that this might very well be the only chance a person gets to read about Jesus before they are scooped up by an anti-religious lifestyle. That false impression you are planting by the seed of falsehood could stick with them forever and it could prove to be a major stumbling block in their faith.

I do not believe it is good to propagate falsehoods about this topic, nor any other topic that corresponds to a real event where accuracy of truth is vital and falsehoods can have consequences.

On the other hand, a speculative investigation, a thesis into human psyche of Judas could be rather insightful. I suppose it really is all about the impact it has on the reader's faith.
Would your objections still hold of Jesus never had a direct appearance in the storey, just referred to by the characters?
 
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Would your objections still hold of Jesus never had a direct appearance in the storey, just referred to by the characters?
I think that it is unavoidable that you will be sowing seeds of falsehood regarding this topic if you are writing things that are false about this topic, so yeah. Unless everything that you right is without falsehood. You should pray about it, and only act according to His instruction (Matthew 7:21-23).
 
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In the story Ben-Hur, Jesus heals that man's mother and sister. I really don't see the problem with writing stories - it's not lying if everyone knows it's fiction.
 
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There's nothing wrong with Biblical fiction.

I like Life of Christ stories. There is one in particular called "I, Judas", by Taylor Caldwell, which presents the life of Jesus seen thru the eyes of Judas Iscariot.
 
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Do you think it's a sacrilege to write a story that gives a fictional twist on a story within the Bible?

I am asking because I was reading about Judas and got to wondering....why? Why would he do that?

I kinda want to write a short story...But I don't want to write something sacrilegious either.

Why the need for "Bible fiction", when there is Bible TRUTH, in the Holy Bible?
 
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Do you think it's a sacrilege to write a story that gives a fictional twist on a story within the Bible?

I am asking because I was reading about Judas and got to wondering....why? Why would he do that?

I kinda want to write a short story...But I don't want to write something sacrilegious either.

Yes... I believe there is a cuse upon anyone who adds to the Word of God or takes away from the Word of God...

So a fictional account of the life and actions of Judas is adding too the Word of God about him or it is taking away from the Word of God about him..
 
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Yes... I believe there is a cuse upon anyone who adds to the Word of God or takes away from the Word of God...
That's The Book of Mormon, which purports to be Scripture, but is not. A fictional story does not add to Scripture.
 
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That's The Book of Mormon, which purports to be Scripture, but is not. A fictional story does not add to Scripture.

A fictional account of the word of God will either add too or take away from the actual Word of God.. So any fictional accout would be under a curse..
 
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In the story Ben-Hur, Jesus heals that man's mother and sister. I really don't see the problem with writing stories - it's not lying if everyone knows it's fiction.

I think it depends. Because Jesus healing a man's mother and sister... that happened in the Bible. It is not portraying Jesus in a fictional light, if that makes sense?

But when you start to write fictional stories about other things. Like the Left Behind series (people treat it like a Bible Study on the EndTimes). I don't know enough details to make a solid judgment about the OPs story, but planning to write a fictional story about why Judas committed the crime he committed. It has the potential to do damage depending on how Judas is depicted. It could affect the way a person sees the real story because they have this image of Judas from a different story that they are carrying in with them.

Perhaps you could read a story about a character and not have it sway your opinion of the real person, but that isn't true for most people. One doesn't have to look far in our society to find evidence.
 
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I think it's perfectly fine to write a fictional story based on Bible characters. You're not purporting it to be true, and you're not proposing that it be canonized. It's not adding to the Bible; it's just a story like so many other stories that have some biblical basis (e.g., Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, et al.). It wouldn't be heretical in the least so long as you were up front about it being a work of fiction. Go for it!
 
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Does this mean that every preacher who has ever expounded on a Bible story and added the least bit of conjecture as to motivation or thoughts or words is potentially guilty of falsehood and under a curse? Does this mean that to avoid even the possibility of falsehood and being under a curse, no preacher should ever do more than read the Bible to their hearers and leave it at that without comment?

Should any and all artwork used to teach children Bible stories be banned? After all, we do not have photographs or videos from thousands of years ago to prove that the art is completely accurate. The artist is taking license with the Bible description to guess what they think it looks like. What if the images, paintings, and drawings of Jesus and his disciples, of Noah, of David and Goliath, etc. are NOT 100% accurate? Does this mean children are being taught falsehood? Every time a Sunday School teacher goes beyond reading the Bible and tries to tell the story in their own words to make it easier for kids to understand, does this put them under a curse if they mess up a single thought or word?

This seems to me to be a brutally legalistic standard (based on a single proof text from Revelation) that is not followed in common practice among any Christians I have ever encountered. As a practical matter, all believers allow some amount of leeway in interpretation and explanation of scripture. I have yet to ever see any preacher or teacher only read the Bible and then for fear of being under a curse leave it at that. At some point, all of them enter the realm of conjecture of "I think this is what the Bible says in this passage" (whether they admit it or not). Of course, there's a wide range of opinion about how much leeway is okay.

Personally, I have no issue with well researched and well written fiction. In the case of a story about Judas, my criteria would be this. Has the author done a lot of research on the geography, climate, politics, economics, society, etc. of 1st century Judea and Galilee to present it accurately? Is the author representing 1st century people accurately as 1st century people or merely dropping 21st century people from the US or Europe (with their values and outlooks) into the story? Does the author clearly paint a picture reflecting the different scholarly opinions about Judas' motivation and leave the reader with the same uncertainty we have today about why Judas did what he did? If so, this is not all that different than a good sermon or research book on the topic except presented in a way that some people (who might never read a history book or Bible dictionary or theological treatise) might enjoy and learn from. To the extent such a work is faithful to Bible accounts and accepted scholarly research, it could be a useful teaching tool. To the extent it is wild flights of fantasy to push a particular opinion, it is not a useful teaching tool anymore than a poorly done sermon or poorly researched history book is.
 
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Does this mean that every preacher who has ever expounded on a Bible story and added the least bit of conjecture as to motivation or thoughts or words is potentially guilty of falsehood and under a curse? Does this mean that to avoid even the possibility of falsehood and being under a curse, no preacher should ever do more than read the Bible to their hearers and leave it at that without comment?

Should any and all artwork used to teach children Bible stories be banned? After all, we do not have photographs or videos from thousands of years ago to prove that the art is completely accurate. The artist is taking license with the Bible description to guess what they think it looks like. What if the images, paintings, and drawings of Jesus and his disciples, of Noah, of David and Goliath, etc. are NOT 100% accurate? Does this mean children are being taught falsehood? Every time a Sunday School teacher goes beyond reading the Bible and tries to tell the story in their own words to make it easier for kids to understand, does this put them under a curse if they mess up a single thought or word?

This seems to me to be a brutally legalistic standard (based on a single proof text from Revelation) that is not followed in common practice among any Christians I have ever encountered. As a practical matter, all believers allow some amount of leeway in interpretation and explanation of scripture. I have yet to ever see any preacher or teacher only read the Bible and then for fear of being under a curse leave it at that. At some point, all of them enter the realm of conjecture of "I think this is what the Bible says in this passage" (whether they admit it or not). Of course, there's a wide range of opinion about how much leeway is okay.

Personally, I have no issue with well researched and well written fiction. In the case of a story about Judas, my criteria would be this. Has the author done a lot of research on the geography, climate, politics, economics, society, etc. of 1st century Judea and Galilee to present it accurately? Is the author representing 1st century people accurately as 1st century people or merely dropping 21st century people from the US or Europe (with their values and outlooks) into the story? Does the author clearly paint a picture reflecting the different scholarly opinions about Judas' motivation and leave the reader with the same uncertainty we have today about why Judas did what he did? If so, this is not all that different than a good sermon or research book on the topic except presented in a way that some people (who might never read a history book or Bible dictionary or theological treatise) might enjoy and learn from. To the extent such a work is faithful to Bible accounts and accepted scholarly research, it could be a useful teaching tool. To the extent it is wild flights of fantasy to push a particular opinion, it is not a useful teaching tool anymore than a poorly done sermon or poorly researched history book is.
Happy Birthday!

An excellent response, by the way. :) I haven't decided, and won't until I pray about it, but I appreciate the time and effort you and everyone is putting into helping me sort this out.
 
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Happy Birthday!

Thank you. I got married on my birthday. :) One of the best birthday presents I ever had.

I recently finished reading James Michener's "The Source" which is a fictionalized account of a fictional archeological dig and hypothesized history of the location. Some people in our church are heading to Israel next spring to visit a number of archeological digs (instead of tourist trap type things). The person leading it has been involved in archeology for a number of years and recommended that book among others. I think that book stands as an interesting example of what historical fiction can be like. The key is that one is left with an accurate sense of the history, peoples, cultures, climate and agriculture in Galilee, and other such things across a span of millennia. Long after my memories of the details of the book have faded, the general picture of things will remain.
 
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Does this mean that every preacher who has ever expounded on a Bible story and added the least bit of conjecture as to motivation or thoughts or words is potentially guilty of falsehood and under a curse? Does this mean that to avoid even the possibility of falsehood and being under a curse, no preacher should ever do more than read the Bible to their hearers and leave it at that without comment?
it depends. As long as it is, as you put it, well researched, then there shouldn't be an issue. But not every preacher adds well researched and/or accurate conjecture to the motivations/thought of characters. Listen to enough preachers, and you will hear some crazy things. ;)
 
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