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To all that read this please help me! I've been through some rough times recently, and I looked to the Bible for comfort. Then I came across the verse mentioning the unpardonable sin. I liked to place verses about forgiveness as wallpaper on my phone. I searched for one on the internet to find the unpardonable sin. I was concerned that I had done so due to curses against God that had crossed my mind. I later found out that what had crossed my mind was not the unpardonable sin. Fast forward about 2 weeks (my time may be off). I decided to look at the passage again for reasons I can't remember. I read the passage, and in my stupidity did not take the warning seriously. Curses once again swarmed my mind (I honestly do not remember what all they were, but I'm scared it could have been thoughts similar to what the Pharisees said). I remember having an absolute feeling of despair come across be, and I became upset once again. After this I can remember feeling this sudden strange feeling that I can't describe. Was that the Holy Spirit leaving me? I want to be forgiven more than anything, but can I? I'm afraid it was me that thought those thoughts because I wasn't thinking strait for a bit. I fear that I'm my stupidity I though the unpardonable sin. This sparked a dark spiral of thoughts in my head. I met with the youth minister at the church, and we discussed it. He said that the unpardonable sin was attributing the work of Jesus to Satan. I agree with this definition of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I remember I felt relieved by his words, and went on; however, the worry was not all gone. Again with the dark spiral of evil thoughts. One thing that particularly crossed my mind was (I do not want to state the first thought it because the phrase alone scares me) "Insert phrase that says the glory of God was actually the glory of.......you can guess" then I thought "maybe it was" then "oh gosh no no no that's not true". Then despair came across me. Again the dark spiral of bad thoughts. To this day I have not found genuine lasting peace. I don't remember the vast majority of my thoughts, but I'm almost certain that one of those evil thoughts was me commiting the unpardonable sin. I still despise myself to this day for my stupidity in that moment following my reading of the unpardonable sin chapter a 2nd time. How could I have been so stupid as to loose reverence for the word of God, and not take it seriously. I am almost certain that because of this I have committed the unpardonable sin. For the past 9 months or so I have been living in a constant state of fear that I committed the unpardonable sin. I can't believe I thought those things, and I hate myself for it. I'm afraid what I did was kinda intentional (but without meaning). Let me say I do not agree with those thoughts, but I'm afraid I allowed them to enter my mind because I was just plain stupid (or done in the heat of the moment). Honestly I'm not sure if I knew 100% what I was actually doing. I just kinda happened. I didn't think about it. I've been researching this topic a lot, and I have come across so many interpretations. I do agree with the idea that the unpardonable sin is giving Satan credit for God's work. I am terrified, and scared out of my mind. Not a day has gone that I haven't worried about it. I've lost my peace of mind, been depressed, and most importantly I'm afraid of my spiritual condition. To this day I'm having crazy thoughts, and I'm scared I'm entertaining them. I also don't feel convicted like I use to (if at all). Or is my fear of committing it conviction? I don't agree with my sin by an means, so don't get me wrong their. I'm also having a hard (if not impossible) time feeling God's presence. I have spoken with the head pastor of our church, and he believes that if such a sin could be committed today that I have not committed it simply because I'm worried. He is also convinced that God has a big plan for me, but I'm afraid God has given up on me. Can I ever get out of this worry? Could this sin unsave me? Does it mean I wasn't saved to begin with? I want to come to Jesus more than anything, but I'm afraid he won't accept me. I'm afraid the desire to come to Christ is from me, and not the Holy Spirit. Have I committed the unpardonable sin? Do I have hope, or am I hopelessly condemned? Is the Lord going to reject me?

The unpardonable sin is when a believer becomes so deceived that he comes to the genuine belief that Satan is good and God is evil.
 
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To all that read this please help me! I've been through some rough times recently, and I looked to the Bible for comfort. Then I came across the verse mentioning the unpardonable sin. I liked to place verses about forgiveness as wallpaper on my phone. I searched for one on the internet to find the unpardonable sin. I was concerned that I had done so due to curses against God that had crossed my mind. I later found out that what had crossed my mind was not the unpardonable sin. Fast forward about 2 weeks (my time may be off). I decided to look at the passage again for reasons I can't remember. I read the passage, and in my stupidity did not take the warning seriously. Curses once again swarmed my mind (I honestly do not remember what all they were, but I'm scared it could have been thoughts similar to what the Pharisees said). I remember having an absolute feeling of despair come across be, and I became upset once again. After this I can remember feeling this sudden strange feeling that I can't describe. Was that the Holy Spirit leaving me? I want to be forgiven more than anything, but can I? I'm afraid it was me that thought those thoughts because I wasn't thinking strait for a bit. I fear that I'm my stupidity I though the unpardonable sin. This sparked a dark spiral of thoughts in my head. I met with the youth minister at the church, and we discussed it. He said that the unpardonable sin was attributing the work of Jesus to Satan. I agree with this definition of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I remember I felt relieved by his words, and went on; however, the worry was not all gone. Again with the dark spiral of evil thoughts. One thing that particularly crossed my mind was (I do not want to state the first thought it because the phrase alone scares me) "Insert phrase that says the glory of God was actually the glory of.......you can guess" then I thought "maybe it was" then "oh gosh no no no that's not true". Then despair came across me. Again the dark spiral of bad thoughts. To this day I have not found genuine lasting peace. I don't remember the vast majority of my thoughts, but I'm almost certain that one of those evil thoughts was me commiting the unpardonable sin. I still despise myself to this day for my stupidity in that moment following my reading of the unpardonable sin chapter a 2nd time. How could I have been so stupid as to loose reverence for the word of God, and not take it seriously. I am almost certain that because of this I have committed the unpardonable sin. For the past 9 months or so I have been living in a constant state of fear that I committed the unpardonable sin. I can't believe I thought those things, and I hate myself for it. I'm afraid what I did was kinda intentional (but without meaning). Let me say I do not agree with those thoughts, but I'm afraid I allowed them to enter my mind because I was just plain stupid (or done in the heat of the moment). Honestly I'm not sure if I knew 100% what I was actually doing. I just kinda happened. I didn't think about it. I've been researching this topic a lot, and I have come across so many interpretations. I do agree with the idea that the unpardonable sin is giving Satan credit for God's work. I am terrified, and scared out of my mind. Not a day has gone that I haven't worried about it. I've lost my peace of mind, been depressed, and most importantly I'm afraid of my spiritual condition. To this day I'm having crazy thoughts, and I'm scared I'm entertaining them. I also don't feel convicted like I use to (if at all). Or is my fear of committing it conviction? I don't agree with my sin by an means, so don't get me wrong their. I'm also having a hard (if not impossible) time feeling God's presence. I have spoken with the head pastor of our church, and he believes that if such a sin could be committed today that I have not committed it simply because I'm worried. He is also convinced that God has a big plan for me, but I'm afraid God has given up on me. Can I ever get out of this worry? Could this sin unsave me? Does it mean I wasn't saved to begin with? I want to come to Jesus more than anything, but I'm afraid he won't accept me. I'm afraid the desire to come to Christ is from me, and not the Holy Spirit. Have I committed the unpardonable sin? Do I have hope, or am I hopelessly condemned? Is the Lord going to reject me?
Some people were accusing Jesus of having an evil spirit or being in collusion with the devil. This was when he warned them against blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Matt. 12:30 (WEB) "He who is not with me is against me, and he who doesn't gather with me, scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is to come.

About 33 years ago I had been trying to turn to Christ. I was being tempted to think I was not going to make it, that I was guilty beyond redemption. My attempts to repent were not working. I was poor and not getting good nutrition. I had low paying jobs of seasonal and temporary nature. My brain was in a fog. I did not give up. I went into Christian studies even more. I gained knowledge, then found healing for my mind and body. I learned that God may guide a person like a shepherd guides sheep. I remember the story of Job who lost his wealth, status and health. He was tempted to curse God. He refused to curse God. Though he suffered long his situation improved.

Matt.6:33 (KJV) But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
 
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As Paul wrote "To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone's account where there is no law." (one of several verses that say the same message -- to be a sin the person has to know they are doing wrong)

So, someone not believing in the Spirit, for example, isn't in the position of having knowledge of the Spirit, and as best I understand, would not be held accountable for their ignorant wrongdoing.

Christ said "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

I think to do the unforgivable sin would require a full understanding of what one is doing precisely, and then that in turn I think would require they be truly having real faith, not just ideas or tradition or doctrines or even knowing some verses, etc., not just having grown up in a church and learned to act the way expected...but to have been in real full faith (which only some have!)....and then choosing by choice to intentionally commit this huge wrong against the Spirit, actually known by the person, by full intent, with actual understanding that is full. Not likely! (Now, if in fact someone, if there even is anyone that has, has done that, then I would suggest that even if they have thus lost a key gift, that they should still try to fully obey Christ's commands so as to mitigate their situation as best they can anyway, and hope to try to make it to a better outcome on the basis of their faith and obedience, even without the aid of the advocate; a hard course, but better than the alternative.)
 
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To all that read this please help me! I've been through some rough times recently, and I looked to the Bible for comfort. Then I came across the verse mentioning the unpardonable sin. I liked to place verses about forgiveness as wallpaper on my phone. I searched for one on the internet to find the unpardonable sin. I was concerned that I had done so due to curses against God that had crossed my mind. I later found out that what had crossed my mind was not the unpardonable sin. Fast forward about 2 weeks (my time may be off). I decided to look at the passage again for reasons I can't remember. I read the passage, and in my stupidity did not take the warning seriously. Curses once again swarmed my mind (I honestly do not remember what all they were, but I'm scared it could have been thoughts similar to what the Pharisees said). I remember having an absolute feeling of despair come across be, and I became upset once again. After this I can remember feeling this sudden strange feeling that I can't describe. Was that the Holy Spirit leaving me? I want to be forgiven more than anything, but can I? I'm afraid it was me that thought those thoughts because I wasn't thinking strait for a bit. I fear that I'm my stupidity I though the unpardonable sin. This sparked a dark spiral of thoughts in my head. I met with the youth minister at the church, and we discussed it. He said that the unpardonable sin was attributing the work of Jesus to Satan. I agree with this definition of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I remember I felt relieved by his words, and went on; however, the worry was not all gone. Again with the dark spiral of evil thoughts. One thing that particularly crossed my mind was (I do not want to state the first thought it because the phrase alone scares me) "Insert phrase that says the glory of God was actually the glory of.......you can guess" then I thought "maybe it was" then "oh gosh no no no that's not true". Then despair came across me. Again the dark spiral of bad thoughts. To this day I have not found genuine lasting peace. I don't remember the vast majority of my thoughts, but I'm almost certain that one of those evil thoughts was me commiting the unpardonable sin. I still despise myself to this day for my stupidity in that moment following my reading of the unpardonable sin chapter a 2nd time. How could I have been so stupid as to loose reverence for the word of God, and not take it seriously. I am almost certain that because of this I have committed the unpardonable sin. For the past 9 months or so I have been living in a constant state of fear that I committed the unpardonable sin. I can't believe I thought those things, and I hate myself for it. I'm afraid what I did was kinda intentional (but without meaning). Let me say I do not agree with those thoughts, but I'm afraid I allowed them to enter my mind because I was just plain stupid (or done in the heat of the moment). Honestly I'm not sure if I knew 100% what I was actually doing. I just kinda happened. I didn't think about it. I've been researching this topic a lot, and I have come across so many interpretations. I do agree with the idea that the unpardonable sin is giving Satan credit for God's work. I am terrified, and scared out of my mind. Not a day has gone that I haven't worried about it. I've lost my peace of mind, been depressed, and most importantly I'm afraid of my spiritual condition. To this day I'm having crazy thoughts, and I'm scared I'm entertaining them. I also don't feel convicted like I use to (if at all). Or is my fear of committing it conviction? I don't agree with my sin by an means, so don't get me wrong their. I'm also having a hard (if not impossible) time feeling God's presence. I have spoken with the head pastor of our church, and he believes that if such a sin could be committed today that I have not committed it simply because I'm worried. He is also convinced that God has a big plan for me, but I'm afraid God has given up on me. Can I ever get out of this worry? Could this sin unsave me? Does it mean I wasn't saved to begin with? I want to come to Jesus more than anything, but I'm afraid he won't accept me. I'm afraid the desire to come to Christ is from me, and not the Holy Spirit. Have I committed the unpardonable sin? Do I have hope, or am I hopelessly condemned? Is the Lord going to reject me?

In Matthew chapter 6 Christ gives us instructions on how to pray, and a key prayer to pray, one that will fix your trouble!

Read and put it into action. Pray the prayer He gave you to pray in the way He said to pray.
 
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That is all your interpretation.
It may or may not be true; the Bible does not say.

The Bible does not say: "the Bible does not say."
That is merely your interpretation...

See how treacherous that line of approach to Holy Writ can be?

Better to read the Holy Fathers understandings...

Those whom He hath Justified...
These also He hath Glorified...
Paul, for instance, and the Apostles, and others known and unknown, "He hath Glorified..."

Where we find concensus, we embrace...
Where we find diversity, we diversify...

That is the Patristic Way of approaching Holy Writ...

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No one sin is so bad it is unpardonable, to me Ananias, and his wife's sin, as was the sin of Judas the betrayer of Jesus, stemmed from long term sin, prior sins. Judas as an example was said to be a thief, yet his judgment did not come until he betrayed Jesus in a public way. It was not Judas's betrayal that was so bad, rather it was his long term private sins. I don't believe Ananias ans Sapphira just woke up one day and said let lie to the Holy Spirit. It would have been a long term persistent sin, that God eventually put his finger on in judgment.
You are right - Such sins are life-long...



The classic contrast is that between the two Apostles Peter and Judas the Betrayer...

Both regretted their actions...
One was forgiven...
So why not the other??

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The Bible does not define what the unforgiveable sin might be.
But it does, does it not, give us examples of some who were not forgiven?

Ananias and his wife, and Judas the Betrayer, come to mind.

Are there others?

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So Christopher Hitchens couldn't have been forgiven for taking part in that blasphemous "blasphemy challenge"?
You would have to know and believe in the Holy Spirit in order to commit the sin of blashphemy against Him... An atheist without a Divine and Holy Encounter with God cannot blashpheme Him, because in his soul, he is mereely saying terrible things against that which does not, for him, exist... God knows the heart of a man... I do not know the heart of Christopher Hitchens... May he find God!

otoh - I was on another list where we all prayed for this horrid person on the list, for God to illumine him - He was stalking one of the women there [even to her house], and was posting horridly, so we all did so, and it happened, and the poor guy was complaining and saying that he was experiencing feelings of universal love, and compassion for all people, and saying "I am not LIKE this!!" It took him several weeks to recover, and get back to his old nasty self, but he never made it all the way back - He was still sociopathic, but much less so - The event of that encounter shook him to his roots... I still pray for him... And I would not say that he blashphemed the Holy Spirit... He simply did not know that there even IS the Holy Spirit!

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As Paul wrote "To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone's account where there is no law." (one of several verses that say the same message -- to be a sin the person has to know they are doing wrong)

So, someone not believing in the Spirit, for example, isn't in the position of having knowledge of the Spirit, and as best I understand, would not be held accountable for their ignorant wrongdoing.

Christ said "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

I think to do the unforgivable sin would require a full understanding of what one is doing precisely, and then that in turn I think would require they be truly having real faith, not just ideas or tradition or doctrines or even knowing some verses, etc., not just having grown up in a church and learned to act the way expected...but to have been in real full faith (which only some have!)....and then choosing by choice to intentionally commit this huge wrong against the Spirit, actually known by the person, by full intent, with actual understanding that is full. Not likely! (Now, if in fact someone, if there even is anyone that has, has done that, then I would suggest that even if they have thus lost a key gift, that they should still try to fully obey Christ's commands so as to mitigate their situation as best they can anyway, and hope to try to make it to a better outcome on the basis of their faith and obedience, even without the aid of the advocate; a hard course, but better than the alternative.)

We have the story of a Saint who had many Gifts, including Healing, and he exorcized the demon out of a young woman ahd healed her, then fell into carnal relations with her, and in his shame, he killed her... So he went to his Priest, confessed his sins, was taken out of Holy Communion with the Church, and he went to a place in a remote field, and dug himself his grave, and stayed in it praying for forgiveness night and day except when working silently in heavy manual labors...The seventh year a great drought siezed the land, and he prayed to God for rain, and it rained, and only then did he know he had been forgiven...

I have a love-hate relationship with that story...

Mind you! :)

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In Matthew chapter 6 Christ gives us instructions on how to pray, and a key prayer to pray, one that will fix your trouble!

Read and put it into action. Pray the prayer He gave you to pray in the way He said to pray.
And find a really good translation [HTM* has one] from the LXX of Psalm 50 [51 in the LXX] and pray that Psalm daily, committing it to memory - And pray it every day, morning and evening... Put it on like warm woolies in the cold of this wretchedness called life, and it will nurture you and keep you in God's warm embrace...

Apostolic Churches pray this Psalm multiple times each and every day...

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[*HTM = Holy Transfiguration Monastery - Psalter]
 
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I do agree with the idea that the unpardonable sin is giving Satan credit for God's work. I am terrified, and scared out of my mind. Not a day has gone that I haven't worried about it. I've lost my peace of mind, been depressed, and most importantly I'm afraid of my spiritual condition.

Why? Why are you afraid for your spiritual condition? Because you fear you may go to Hell? If so, your fear is fundamentally self-centered. You're concerned about self-preservation rather than simply loving God. But I tell you, the answer to your fear is a love for God. The apostle John explains:

1 John 4:16-19
16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.
19 We love Him because He first loved us.


What John is describing here is the route out of fear. But that route requires that you stop obsessing over your Self. Instead, occupy your mind with the truth of God's depthless love for you. You see, so long as Self is your preoccupation, there is little room for God in you. But Self is a terrible taskmaster. It will use very powerful means to remain your focus, your obsession: pleasure, pride, piety, and fear - especially fear. Self will even cause suffering and torment in order to remain at the center of your life. So it is that God urges you to look away from your Self and to fix your gaze and your heart upon Christ.

Hebrews 12:2-4
2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls.
4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin.


Ephesians 3:17-19 (NKJV)
17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height--
19 to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.


When you know the love of Christ for you, really know it, your fear will dissolve. A mature knowledge of the Saviour's love for you will cast out your current fear for your soul.
 
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Why? Why are you afraid for your spiritual condition? Because you fear you may go to Hell? If so, your fear is fundamentally self-centered. You're concerned about self-preservation rather than simply loving God. But I tell you, the answer to your fear is a love for God. The apostle John explains:

When you know the love of Christ for you, really know it, your fear will dissolve. A mature knowledge of the Saviour's love for you will cast out your current fear for your soul.

I have always found it to be a tad heartless to accuse someone who is at the beginning of acquiring the Faith, eg to tell such a person that they are self-centered because they fear ending up in hell... For some, those living evil lives, such a fear is neither groundless nor un-therapeutic...

Better to stand thereby in fear/awe of the Lord, because

"The Fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of Wisdom..."

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But it does, does it not, give us examples of some who were not forgiven?

Ananias and his wife, and Judas the Betrayer, come to mind.

Are there others?

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We don't know whether God forgave them or not, and we have no right to speculate. We can't read hearts; he can.
 
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Thank you to all that have replied! So you guys don't think I have committed it? Additionally I hold the view that it can be committed today. Thank all of you, and anyone else please feel free to help because I will need it.
General rule of thumb:
Being afraid of committing the unpardonable sin is a strong indication that you're not committing it.

The unpardonable sin is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit", which simply is rejecting the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the one who works faith in us. Rejecting Him means rejecting faith. It is our faith in Christ that allows forgiveness of sins. Rejecting that faith = no forgiveness. That is why "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" is unpardonable - you are rejecting the faith that makes forgiveness possible.

People who say they are afraid of blaspheming the Holy Spirit tend to be Christians. Non-Christians don't believe in the Holy Spirit, so there's no reason they'd fear such blasphemy. That's why fearing it tends to indicate you aren't committing it - you have to be a Christian to fear it, but Christians by definition aren't committing it.
 
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The Bible does not say: "the Bible does not say."
That is merely your interpretation...

See how treacherous that line of approach to Holy Writ can be?

Better to read the Holy Fathers understandings...

Those whom He hath Justified...
These also He hath Glorified...
Paul, for instance, and the Apostles, and others known and unknown, "He hath Glorified..."

Where we find concensus, we embrace...
Where we find diversity, we diversify...

That is the Patristic Way of approaching Holy Writ...

Arsenios

Thank you but I am apostolic as well.

And as I am sure you know Tradition cannot contradict Scripture, and 'it is not written' is a very good defence against all sorts of twaddle. What is written is written; rather than being 'treacherous' it in fact guards against a lot of fanciful creations, such as Sola Scriptura.
 
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So Christopher Hitchens couldn't have been forgiven for taking part in that blasphemous "blasphemy challenge"?

If there were to be anything that Mr Hitchens could do, which God could not forgive, then Mr Hitchens would be more powerful than God.

Mr Hitchens is clearly not more powerful than God, ergo there is nothing that he can do that God cannot forgive, should he choose to do so.
 
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I have always found it to be a tad heartless to accuse someone who is at the beginning of acquiring the Faith, eg to tell such a person that they are self-centered because they fear ending up in hell... For some, those living evil lives, such a fear is neither groundless nor un-therapeutic...

Actually, it is far more heartless to encourage them on a path of fear that will take them ultimately and inevitably away from God.

The legitimate - and appropriate - fear an unrepentant sinner feels concerning their eternal jeopardy ought to give way to a love for God who has redeemed them from that jeopardy. Far too often, though, a new believer is left with fear as the primary motivation for walking with God. But God accepts no obedience to His will and way that arises from such a motive. Only love for God (Matt. 22:36-38; 1 Cor. 13:1-3) will do.
 
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To all that read this please help me! I've been through some rough times recently, and I looked to the Bible for comfort. Then I came across the verse mentioning the unpardonable sin. I liked to place verses about forgiveness as wallpaper on my phone. I searched for one on the internet to find the unpardonable sin. I was concerned that I had done so due to curses against God that had crossed my mind. I later found out that what had crossed my mind was not the unpardonable sin. Fast forward about 2 weeks (my time may be off). I decided to look at the passage again for reasons I can't remember. I read the passage, and in my stupidity did not take the warning seriously. Curses once again swarmed my mind (I honestly do not remember what all they were, but I'm scared it could have been thoughts similar to what the Pharisees said). I remember having an absolute feeling of despair come across be, and I became upset once again. After this I can remember feeling this sudden strange feeling that I can't describe. Was that the Holy Spirit leaving me? I want to be forgiven more than anything, but can I? I'm afraid it was me that thought those thoughts because I wasn't thinking strait for a bit. I fear that I'm my stupidity I though the unpardonable sin. This sparked a dark spiral of thoughts in my head. I met with the youth minister at the church, and we discussed it. He said that the unpardonable sin was attributing the work of Jesus to Satan. I agree with this definition of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I remember I felt relieved by his words, and went on; however, the worry was not all gone. Again with the dark spiral of evil thoughts. One thing that particularly crossed my mind was (I do not want to state the first thought it because the phrase alone scares me) "Insert phrase that says the glory of God was actually the glory of.......you can guess" then I thought "maybe it was" then "oh gosh no no no that's not true". Then despair came across me. Again the dark spiral of bad thoughts. To this day I have not found genuine lasting peace. I don't remember the vast majority of my thoughts, but I'm almost certain that one of those evil thoughts was me commiting the unpardonable sin. I still despise myself to this day for my stupidity in that moment following my reading of the unpardonable sin chapter a 2nd time. How could I have been so stupid as to loose reverence for the word of God, and not take it seriously. I am almost certain that because of this I have committed the unpardonable sin. For the past 9 months or so I have been living in a constant state of fear that I committed the unpardonable sin. I can't believe I thought those things, and I hate myself for it. I'm afraid what I did was kinda intentional (but without meaning). Let me say I do not agree with those thoughts, but I'm afraid I allowed them to enter my mind because I was just plain stupid (or done in the heat of the moment). Honestly I'm not sure if I knew 100% what I was actually doing. I just kinda happened. I didn't think about it. I've been researching this topic a lot, and I have come across so many interpretations. I do agree with the idea that the unpardonable sin is giving Satan credit for God's work. I am terrified, and scared out of my mind. Not a day has gone that I haven't worried about it. I've lost my peace of mind, been depressed, and most importantly I'm afraid of my spiritual condition. To this day I'm having crazy thoughts, and I'm scared I'm entertaining them. I also don't feel convicted like I use to (if at all). Or is my fear of committing it conviction? I don't agree with my sin by an means, so don't get me wrong their. I'm also having a hard (if not impossible) time feeling God's presence. I have spoken with the head pastor of our church, and he believes that if such a sin could be committed today that I have not committed it simply because I'm worried. He is also convinced that God has a big plan for me, but I'm afraid God has given up on me. Can I ever get out of this worry? Could this sin unsave me? Does it mean I wasn't saved to begin with? I want to come to Jesus more than anything, but I'm afraid he won't accept me. I'm afraid the desire to come to Christ is from me, and not the Holy Spirit. Have I committed the unpardonable sin? Do I have hope, or am I hopelessly condemned? Is the Lord going to reject me?
To all that read this please help me! I've been through some rough times recently, and I looked to the Bible for comfort. Then I came across the verse mentioning the unpardonable sin. I liked to place verses about forgiveness as wallpaper on my phone. I searched for one on the internet to find the unpardonable sin. I was concerned that I had done so due to curses against God that had crossed my mind. I later found out that what had crossed my mind was not the unpardonable sin. Fast forward about 2 weeks (my time may be off). I decided to look at the passage again for reasons I can't remember. I read the passage, and in my stupidity did not take the warning seriously. Curses once again swarmed my mind (I honestly do not remember what all they were, but I'm scared it could have been thoughts similar to what the Pharisees said). I remember having an absolute feeling of despair come across be, and I became upset once again. After this I can remember feeling this sudden strange feeling that I can't describe. Was that the Holy Spirit leaving me? I want to be forgiven more than anything, but can I? I'm afraid it was me that thought those thoughts because I wasn't thinking strait for a bit. I fear that I'm my stupidity I though the unpardonable sin. This sparked a dark spiral of thoughts in my head. I met with the youth minister at the church, and we discussed it. He said that the unpardonable sin was attributing the work of Jesus to Satan. I agree with this definition of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I remember I felt relieved by his words, and went on; however, the worry was not all gone. Again with the dark spiral of evil thoughts. One thing that particularly crossed my mind was (I do not want to state the first thought it because the phrase alone scares me) "Insert phrase that says the glory of God was actually the glory of.......you can guess" then I thought "maybe it was" then "oh gosh no no no that's not true". Then despair came across me. Again the dark spiral of bad thoughts. To this day I have not found genuine lasting peace. I don't remember the vast majority of my thoughts, but I'm almost certain that one of those evil thoughts was me commiting the unpardonable sin. I still despise myself to this day for my stupidity in that moment following my reading of the unpardonable sin chapter a 2nd time. How could I have been so stupid as to loose reverence for the word of God, and not take it seriously. I am almost certain that because of this I have committed the unpardonable sin. For the past 9 months or so I have been living in a constant state of fear that I committed the unpardonable sin. I can't believe I thought those things, and I hate myself for it. I'm afraid what I did was kinda intentional (but without meaning). Let me say I do not agree with those thoughts, but I'm afraid I allowed them to enter my mind because I was just plain stupid (or done in the heat of the moment). Honestly I'm not sure if I knew 100% what I was actually doing. I just kinda happened. I didn't think about it. I've been researching this topic a lot, and I have come across so many interpretations. I do agree with the idea that the unpardonable sin is giving Satan credit for God's work. I am terrified, and scared out of my mind. Not a day has gone that I haven't worried about it. I've lost my peace of mind, been depressed, and most importantly I'm afraid of my spiritual condition. To this day I'm having crazy thoughts, and I'm scared I'm entertaining them. I also don't feel convicted like I use to (if at all). Or is my fear of committing it conviction? I don't agree with my sin by an means, so don't get me wrong their. I'm also having a hard (if not impossible) time feeling God's presence. I have spoken with the head pastor of our church, and he believes that if such a sin could be committed today that I have not committed it simply because I'm worried. He is also convinced that God has a big plan for me, but I'm afraid God has given up on me. Can I ever get out of this worry? Could this sin unsave me? Does it mean I wasn't saved to begin with? I want to come to Jesus more than anything, but I'm afraid he won't accept me. I'm afraid the desire to come to Christ is from me, and not the Holy Spirit. Have I committed the unpardonable sin? Do I have hope, or am I hopelessly condemned? Is the Lord going to reject me?

Ch. Bell

"William3:"

You are concerned with committing the unpardonable sin.
1. A born again Christian can not commit this sin. Jesus said, "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thy gavest me I

have kept, and none of them is lost,............................." John 17:12.
"My Father, which gave them to me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." John 10:29
Believers are under the blood.
2. The HOLY SPIRIT IS convicting you of your trespass or trespasses, trying to get you to repent and bring you back to your formal stated.
3. God has forgiven you. You have not forgiven yourself.



I hope this help you.











 
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To all that read this please help me! I've been through some rough times recently, and I looked to the Bible for comfort. Then I came across the verse mentioning the unpardonable sin. I liked to place verses about forgiveness as wallpaper on my phone. I searched for one on the internet to find the unpardonable sin. I was concerned that I had done so due to curses against God that had crossed my mind. I later found out that what had crossed my mind was not the unpardonable sin. Fast forward about 2 weeks (my time may be off). I decided to look at the passage again for reasons I can't remember. I read the passage, and in my stupidity did not take the warning seriously. Curses once again swarmed my mind (I honestly do not remember what all they were, but I'm scared it could have been thoughts similar to what the Pharisees said). I remember having an absolute feeling of despair come across be, and I became upset once again. After this I can remember feeling this sudden strange feeling that I can't describe. Was that the Holy Spirit leaving me? I want to be forgiven more than anything, but can I? I'm afraid it was me that thought those thoughts because I wasn't thinking strait for a bit. I fear that I'm my stupidity I though the unpardonable sin. This sparked a dark spiral of thoughts in my head. I met with the youth minister at the church, and we discussed it. He said that the unpardonable sin was attributing the work of Jesus to Satan. I agree with this definition of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I remember I felt relieved by his words, and went on; however, the worry was not all gone. Again with the dark spiral of evil thoughts. One thing that particularly crossed my mind was (I do not want to state the first thought it because the phrase alone scares me) "Insert phrase that says the glory of God was actually the glory of.......you can guess" then I thought "maybe it was" then "oh gosh no no no that's not true". Then despair came across me. Again the dark spiral of bad thoughts. To this day I have not found genuine lasting peace. I don't remember the vast majority of my thoughts, but I'm almost certain that one of those evil thoughts was me commiting the unpardonable sin. I still despise myself to this day for my stupidity in that moment following my reading of the unpardonable sin chapter a 2nd time. How could I have been so stupid as to loose reverence for the word of God, and not take it seriously. I am almost certain that because of this I have committed the unpardonable sin. For the past 9 months or so I have been living in a constant state of fear that I committed the unpardonable sin. I can't believe I thought those things, and I hate myself for it. I'm afraid what I did was kinda intentional (but without meaning). Let me say I do not agree with those thoughts, but I'm afraid I allowed them to enter my mind because I was just plain stupid (or done in the heat of the moment). Honestly I'm not sure if I knew 100% what I was actually doing. I just kinda happened. I didn't think about it. I've been researching this topic a lot, and I have come across so many interpretations. I do agree with the idea that the unpardonable sin is giving Satan credit for God's work. I am terrified, and scared out of my mind. Not a day has gone that I haven't worried about it. I've lost my peace of mind, been depressed, and most importantly I'm afraid of my spiritual condition. To this day I'm having crazy thoughts, and I'm scared I'm entertaining them. I also don't feel convicted like I use to (if at all). Or is my fear of committing it conviction? I don't agree with my sin by an means, so don't get me wrong their. I'm also having a hard (if not impossible) time feeling God's presence. I have spoken with the head pastor of our church, and he believes that if such a sin could be committed today that I have not committed it simply because I'm worried. He is also convinced that God has a big plan for me, but I'm afraid God has given up on me. Can I ever get out of this worry? Could this sin unsave me? Does it mean I wasn't saved to begin with? I want to come to Jesus more than anything, but I'm afraid he won't accept me. I'm afraid the desire to come to Christ is from me, and not the Holy Spirit. Have I committed the unpardonable sin? Do I have hope, or am I hopelessly condemned? Is the Lord going to reject me?

Dear William, we all fall into this one time or another. Here's a great article from one of my favorite theologians R.C. Sproul.

“Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation” (Mark 3:28–29).

I cannot tell you how many times in my teaching career very distraught Christians have come to me to ask about the unpardonable sin and whether they might have committed it. I suspect most believers have asked themselves whether they have done something unforgivable. It is not surprising that many people struggle with this issue because the precise nature of “the unpardonable sin” is difficult to discern and many theories about it have been set forth through church history. For instance, some people have argued that the unpardonable sin is murder and others have said that it is adultery, because they see the serious consequences that those sins wreak on the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage. But I can speak with full assurance that neither of those sins is unpardonable. There are two reasons for my assurance. First, Scripture shows us examples of people who committed these sins and were forgiven. Exhibit A is David, who was guilty of both adultery and murder, and yet, after his confession and repentance, he was restored fully to his state of grace. Second, and more important, when Jesus taught on the unpardonable sin, He said nothing about murder or adultery.

Amen

What, then, did Jesus say? He began in a radical way by saying, “Assuredly, I say to you.” Sometimes evangelical Christians who want to express agreement with something they have heard from a preacher or a teacher will say “Amen.” The word amen is transliterated from the Hebrew amein, which means “truth” or “it is true,” so those saying “Amen” are agreeing with what they have heard. But instead of giving His teaching and waiting for His hearers to say “Amen,” Jesus Himself said “Amen” before He gave His teaching. The word translated as “assuredly” here is the Greek equivalent of the word amein. In other words, Jesus announced that He was about to say something true. This was a way of saying, “Now hear this.” He was giving great emphasis to the teaching He was about to utter.

What is Blasphemy?

Jesus then stated that “all sins” can be forgiven, including “whatever blasphemies”—except for the specific blasphemy of the Spirit. Luke’s account of this teaching is even more specific: “Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven” (Luke 12:10).

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[Blasphemy] is desecration of the holy character of God… In a sense, it is the opposite of praise. —R.C. Sproul

At this point, we need to define blasphemy, and this verse from Luke gives us a clue as to what it is. The two phrases “who speaks a word against” and “who blasphemes” are parallel. Blasphemy, then, involves speaking a word against God. It is a verbal sin, one that is committed with the mouth or the pen. It is desecration of the holy character of God. It can involve insulting Him, mocking Him, or dishonoring Him. In a sense, it is the opposite of praise. Even casually using the name of God by saying, “Oh, my God,” as so many do, constitutes blasphemy. We can be very thankful that the unpardonable sin is not just any kind of blasphemy, because if it were, none of us would have any hope of escaping damnation. All of us have, at many times and in many ways, routinely blasphemed the name of God.

Blasphemy Against the Son of Man

Jesus’ statement that “Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him” seems shocking in light of the abuse and mistreatment He later went through, culminating in His execution on a Roman cross. But we must remember how, as He hung on the cross, Jesus looked at those who had delivered Him to the Romans and mocked Him as He was dying, and said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do” (Luke 23:34). Even though these men opposed Christ to the point of executing Him, there was still hope of forgiveness for them. Likewise, in the book of Acts, Peter told the people of Jerusalem that they had delivered Jesus to the Romans and denied Him, but he added, “I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers” (Acts 3:17), and he called on them to repent. So, on at least two occasions, the New Testament makes it clear that forgiveness was possible for those who despised Christ so much that they killed Him. These accounts verify Jesus’ assertion that any sin against the Son of Man could be forgiven.

Blasphemy Against the Spirit

But what of blasphemy against the Spirit? To understand this difficult saying, we need to see that it came in the context of Jesus’ opponents charging Him with doing His work by the power of the Devil rather than by the power of the Holy Spirit. However, they were not slandering the Spirit—not quite. Their statements were directed against Jesus. So, He said to them: “You can blaspheme Me and be forgiven, but when you question the work of the Spirit, you are coming perilously close to the unforgivable sin. You are right at the line. You are looking down into the abyss of hell. One more step and there will be no hope for you.” He was warning them to be very careful not to insult or mock the Spirit.

Christians and The Unpardonable Sin

Humanly speaking, everyone who is a Christian is capable of committing the unforgivable sin. However, I believe that the Lord of glory who has saved us and sealed us in the Holy Spirit will never let us commit that sin. I do not believe that any Christians in the history of the church have blasphemed the Spirit.

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Thanks be to God that the sin that is unpardonable is not a sin He allows His people to commit. —R.C. Sproul

As for those who are not sure they are saved and are worried they may have committed the unpardonable sin, I would say that worrying about it is one of the clearest evidences that they have not committed this sin, for those who commit it are so hardened in their hearts they do not care that they commit it. Thanks be to God that the sin that is unpardonable is not a sin He allows His people to commit.
 
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