Hell for non prayers

Is there some Bible passage that suggests this?

Luke50 said:

Will you go to Hell if you dont pray ?

I think so, what do you think ?

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we are saved because of our trust/faith in what Jesus has done for us and people are condemned because of their lack of trust/faith in Jesus.
Prayers to God or prayers to demons make very little difference.
It like saying I'll pay the new york metro for a ticket and then try to board a Panam flight with your metro ticket.

Luke50 said:

Will you go to Hell if you dont pray ?

I think so, what do you think ?

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Only God decides who goes to Hell and who doesn't so if you don't pray, it might not get you to hell but at the same time won't get you close to God.

Luke50 said:

Will you go to Hell if you dont pray ?

I think so, what do you think ?

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The idea that "Hell" is God's way of punishing people who don't cross all their t's and dot all their i's is to have a very dim view of God, His Gospel, and His grace.

-CryptoLutheran

Hall said:

it might not get you to hell but at the same time won't get you close to God.

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Good thing it's not about us getting close to God, but about God getting close to us; it's about the Gospel, not the Law.

-CryptoLutheran

Luke50 said:

Will you go to Hell if you dont pray ?

I think so, what do you think ?

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Also, God says only through His son we can find Him, so since we do have to pray to talk to Jesus it would be hard to get to heaven without doing so.

If you are not "John 3 explained in Ephesians 2" SAVED, God does not "hear" the "prayers" of the UNSAVED.

Proverbs 15:29
The Lord is far from the wicked, But He hears the prayer of the righteous.

Romans 8 (NASB)....Deliverance from Bondage into Joy
Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death....
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good
to those who love God,
to those who are called according to His purpose.

James 5 (NASB)...Man should appeal to God
Is anyone among you suffering?
Then he must pray.
Is anyone cheerful?
He is to sing praises.
Is anyone among you sick?
Then he must call for the elders of the church and
they are to pray over him,
anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;
and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick,
and the Lord will raise him up,
and if he has committed sins,
they will be forgiven him.
Therefore, confess your sins to one another,
and pray for one another
so that you may be healed.
The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

There is only one thing that condemns one to the eternal separation from God in the spiritual realm of the "lake of fire":
REJECTION of God's CALLING/DRAWING=DISBELIEF

1 Chronicles 28:9...King David to his wise son upon passing his kingdom
“As for you, my son Solomon,
know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind;
for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts.
If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; BUT
if you forsake Him, He will reject you.

Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to witness against you today,
that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse.
So CHOOSE LIFE in order that you may live, you and your descendants,

John 3...John the Baptizer's "sermon"
36 He who BELIEVES in the Son HAS "eternal (SPIRITUAL) life"; (now!)
but he who does not obey the Son ( to believe + follow) will not see (eternal SPIRITUAL)) life,
but the WRATH of God ABIDES (dwells) on him.”

Revelation 20:15
And if anyone’s name was not found written in the (LAMB'S)"book of life",(SAVED BELIEVERS) he was thrown into the "lake of fire".

Psalm 109:7
When he is judged, let him come forth guilty, And let his prayer become sin.

Proverbs 15:8
The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord, But the prayer of the upright is His delight.

Matthew 21:22
And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.”

Ephesians 6:18
With all prayer and petition pray at all times IN the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints,

1 Peter 3:7
You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.

Luke50 said:

Will you go to Hell if you dont pray ?

I think so, what do you think ?

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Bible tells eternal life is for righteous. I don’t see any Biblical reason to think, person must pray to get the eternal life. However, I think it is very probable that righteous person prays.


These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

RE: POST#11 and Matthew 25:

Matthew 25 (NOT 24) does give many human examples of how Man should treat Man,
but neither keeping 1 nor all of them does not save.
In context, Matthew 25 deals with the prophecy of Jesus' Judgment of the NATIONS (ethnos ~=societies)...
NOT Judgment of individual spirits by their spiritual works.

Jesus' Prophecy of Future Judgment of the NATIONS (ethnos) by the Reigning KING on His Throne...

Matthew 25: 31-46 (NASB)
“But when the "Son of Man" comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. (to JUDGE!)
All the NATIONS (ethnos) will be gathered before Him; ...(ethnos = societies, peoples)
and He will separate them (NATIONS (ethnos)) from one another,as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, (unbelieving societies / "Nations" = goats)
‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the ETERNAL FIREwhich has been prepared for the devil and his angels. ('lake of fire" in Revelation?)...
46 These will go away into ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, (unbelieving societies / "Nations" = goats)
BUT the righteous (Nations of believers = sheep) into ETERNAL (SPIRITUAL) LIFE.”

‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not DO it to one of the least of these, you did not DO it to Me.’
aka
"If you did not serve your fellow man, you did not serve Me."

The "prayers" of UNBELIEVERS are not HEARD.
ALL the "prayers" of BELIEVERS are ANSWERED:
GOD: YES...NO...WAIT!

I used to use the word Hell frequently and hear it frequently as a Nazarene member for 25 years.

It is used by Orthodox religions to promote fear (of God). A means of control.

I only seek and concentrate on the love of God and the Truth from the Holy Spirit now.

Paul said it best:
Philippians:
7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

RESPONSE TO POST#15: Q1:..."Do you fear God ?...

A1: WHO? ME?

In the OT:

Deuteronomy 6:13
“You SHALL FEAR only the LORD your God;
and you shall worship Him and swear by His name.

"TO FEAR"... Hebrew 3372...yare'...to stand in awe of, be awed...reverence, honour, respect

1 Samuel 12:14
If you will fear the Lord and serve Him, and
listen to His voice and not rebel against the command of the Lord, then both you and also the king who reigns over you will follow the Lord your God.

In the NT:

God commmands believers to "fear" Him.
But that equates to RESPECT and to REVERE Him in awe and obedience.

Luke 1:50
“AND HIS MERCY IS UPON GENERATION AFTER GENERATION TOWARD THOSE WHO FEAR HIM."

TOWARD THOSE WHO FEAR... Greek 5399....phobeo....to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience

2 Cor. 7:1
Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

1 Peter 2:17
Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.

Rev. 14:7
...“Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.”

God warns UNbelievers to "fear" Him.

Hebrews 10:31
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Ecclesiastes 5:6
Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin;
neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands?

Human / emotional "fear" shows a distrust of God as sovreign.

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; (spiritual)
but perfect love casts out fear, (carnal)
because fear involves punishment,
and the one who fears is not perfected (mature) in love.

Luke50...Are you AFRAID that God will PUNISH you if you do NOT "pray"??

Luke50 said:

I I pray so no. But I believe that he will punish those who don't pray, because without praying you can't have a relationship with god

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So how often do you believe one has to pray to avoid punishment for not doing so?

RESPONSE TO POST #18 Q1:.."I believe that he will punish those who don't pray...

Please copy and paste Scripture from the NASB HERE which you think support that view.

Q2:..."without praying you can't have a relationship with "God"..."

Please copy and paste Scripture from the NASB HERE which you think support that view.

Genesis 1:26
Then God (elohim= plural) said, “Let Us make man(kind) in Our (SPIRITUAL) image, according to Our likeness;(character)

Deuteronomy 8:5
Thus you are to know in your heart that the Lord your God was disciplining you just as a man disciplines his son.

disciplines...Hebrews 3256...yacar...I.to chasten...instruct, admonish

Psalm 4:1
[ Evening Prayer of Trust in God. ] [ For the choir director; on stringed instruments. A Psalm of David.(A SINNER!) ] Answer me when I call, O God of my righteousness! You have relieved me in my distress; Be gracious to me and hear my prayer..

Psalm 51:ALL!
[ A Contrite Sinner’s Prayer for Pardon. ] [ For the choir director. A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came to him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. ] Be gracious to me, O God, according to Your lovingkindness; According to the greatness of Your compassion blot out my transgressions.

Psalm 66:19
But certainly God has heard; He has given heed to the voice of my prayer.

Philippians 4:6
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.

2 Chronicles 6:39
then hear from heaven, from Your dwelling place, their prayer and supplications, and maintain their cause and forgive Your people who have sinned against You.

2 Chronicles 7:14
and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.