jerry kelso
Food For Thought
I would rather have "tunnel vision" than double-talk.
"This is just like a double reference of sorts." , Jerry Kelso
Either Jeremiah was talking about the Babylonian captivity, or he was not.
This is the truth of the big picture in context.
The 50 reasons for the pretrib doctrine and more rapture questions are all about Dispensationalists needing to get the Church off the planet so that God can deal again with modern Israel under the Old Covenant system, which is now "obsolete" based on Hebrews 8:13.
The truth is that the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is fulfilled by Christ in Hebrews 8:6-13, and is specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, completely destroys the Two Peoples of God doctrine of modern Dispensational Theology.
All of those promoting the man-made doctrine need to find something else to fulfill their time.
A New Covenant Bible study would be a good place to start.
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baberean2,
1. Don't think their is such thing as a double reference?
Matthew 16:21-23; says Peter wasn't going to let anyone kill Jesus and Jesus said, get behind me Satan for you don't savor the the things of God.
Jesus was rebuking the Devil for using Peter as a tool and rebuking Peter for not favoring the plan of God for Christ to be killed.
2. Many of your teachings are based on false understanding of dispensations and wrong labels from your teachers such as two gospels and two peoples of God etc.
There is no double talk on my part for I give you the correct context.
God said he would raise up David as King and the foreign nations would bother them anymore.
This didn't happen in Jeremiah's day and the foreign nations still oppressed them and still are bothering them.
You are more interested in your denominational stance than what the Bible really is saying.
You can't disprove the proof I have given and that is why you keep going back to your old misunderstandings that have already been debunked. That is a crying shame.
3. Just because the Jews have a slightly different calling concerning their need to be purged to receive their eternal promises in the covenant doesn't mean they are a separate people from the believers who have gone on before.
Spiritually, they will be one with all believers in the KoH. They will be saved by the blood of the Lamb according to New Covenant for there has been no other covenant since the Cross.
The believers in the church age do not have to physically be in the tribulation for Jews to be saved.
We are to make them jealous now and even since Paul's day but they will not come together as a complete nation of saved Jews until the time of Jacob's trouble.
Just because the church was the culmination of God's plan to officially save all men, Jews and Gentiles doesn't do away with the plan of God concerning Israel being at the head of the nations on earth.
You seem to think that is unfair because it doesn't apply with the church age people.
There will be other things the church age people will have authority in other capacities that Israel won't have. Is that unfair too?
In Ezekiel, the Jews thought they were in the club and didn't have to repent and that the Lord should not accept the heathens repentance. He said he was fair to accept repentance from the wicked and that he would be just to not remember their righteousness if they didn't repent.
You sound the same way; everybody has be in the church age saints club or at least under the umbrella or else it isn't valid.
God is in control and he has his order of how he does things and what positions he gives in the kingdom.
God gave gradual revelation and the death, burial, and resurrection was not totally understood by the Jews in Jesus day so they came to Christ by believing he was Messiah for entrance into the physical KoH but they didn't understand the gospel of being based on the death, burial, and resurrection like those after ther finished worked happened.
Those doesn't mean there are two different gospels of saving souls.
The basics like blood sacrifices were in types and shadows and saved by grace through faith of whatever their revelation was which was different in each age. These all led up to the epitome of the redemptive plan of God at Calvary according to the NC not the Old Covenant.
Even Jesus forgiving sins of the Jews was not final until he died and then rose again and since then all are saved to the uttermost under the NC Hebrew 11:40.
Proper perspective is not doubling talking but tunnel vision is being blinded of the truth. Jerry kelso
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