stuart lawrence
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BTWPaul understood burning with lust and said to marry. You were too young to marry. What a pickle! I would consider your over-charged hormones, a trial, producing patience.
No, I wouldn't condemn you, stuart. I certainly do not know everything. And as for your beliefs on the law, I plan to re-read the whole New Testament to see if I need to make changes to my own beliefs. I do this regularly as each time the Holy Spirit teaches me a new-to-me revelation. I only want to "teach" God's meaning to Scripture. I do remember not that many years ago that given to a Christian, grace is the power of God, no longer just unmerited favor as in first coming to Christ. And I remember when I was still a Seventh-day Adventist being first shown grace in 1970 and seeing it as you do now. I will re-visit scripture with a focus on grace/sin/law/all of the above. In 1971 I remember my first encounter with a Pentecostal, and believed it. But it took till 1977 to receive the overflowing presence and infilling in my life. (my testimony). I had so much power over sin over-night, I do know-that-I-know that grace IS the power of God. However, looking back, I still sinned in areas I didn't know were sin, due to a false teaching I learned from a teacher (not at Jack Hayford's church) that mis-represented some sins. But in time the Holy Spirit straightened out those crooked paths. Some sins really are a matter of the heart and knowledge revealed. Are they willful, or done in ignorance. But God will finish and perfect what He started in us.
A couple of years ago, to please somebody I attended some SDA church meetings, and got to know a few SDA quite well.
From my own personal observations, I remember sitting in a discussion group with the overwhelming sense of: Where is the Holy Spirit?
The first thing that really disturbed me was some church members taking the Lord's name in vain in casual conversation, and laughing as they did so, apparently unaware they were breaking one of the TC. As you would know, SDA are most insistent the TC must be obeyed.
I noticed that many SDA were sticklers for tithing, obviously attending church on Saturdays, not eating the Levitical unclean foods or drinking alcohol. But from what I saw up close as it were, some legalistic rules were followed according to the letter, while much of the heart of the law was not.
One woman strictly adhered to the letter of law mentioned, but at the same time had many affairs.
A member of a choir also had many affairs, and a woman who often took the service before the minister spoke was also in a relationship outside of marriage.
Of course, I don't claim this kind of thing is limited to the SDA church. But it seemed a million miles away from my Christian experiences.
I once told you I went out with someone I should never have gone out with and had a sexual relationship with the person. I could never have turned up at church each week and joined heartily in the service whilst doing that. Yet one woman at the SDA church could, whilst having many affairs. She even shouted out AMEN when the minister said something she approved of.
Such christianity I could never fathom or understand. It is totally alien to me
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