I would like to debate the evidence for evolution!
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I rest my case.
You're incapable of responding and repeatedly divert to something else. I asked a question, you avoided it at least 4 times now. You asked me a question and I responded in detail, you moved on to ask a different question.
This should be a clear sign to you that you ought to reconsider your position. If you would like, I would be happy to teach you or refer you to books. But first, you need understand that your current position cannot explain or answer questions, or in this case, the question that I have asked you.
You're incapable of responding and repeatedly divert to something else. I asked a question, you avoided it at least 4 times now. You asked me a question and I responded in detail, you moved on to ask a different question.
This should be a clear sign to you that you ought to reconsider your position. If you would like, I would be happy to teach you or refer you to books. But first, you need understand that your current position cannot explain or answer questions, or in this case, the question that I have asked you.
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Yes it was by chance just like by chance they found a living coelacanth in salt water that they claim was a flesh water fish.
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This was exactly the people response when they discovered the platypus. They thought it was a joke at the beginning.
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And you believe a reptile can grow boobs and long hair and start singing "I'm hot blooded"; Boobzilla.
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Yep. And we wonder why so many people hear what Christians are saying these days and conclude that Christianity is silly. What's next, thinking that the tower of Babel legend actually happened, and the Earth is flat?
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But the empirical basis was clearly explained to you, along with the nested hierarchy. You can see that in the thread, here, in case you'd like to review.
GULO Pseudogene as evidence for common ancestry among primates
"calling them" a nested hierarchy? You know, what comes to mind here is whether or not you understand what a "nested hierarchy" is, and why that is strong evidence for common descent.
Because I see a few possibilities.
1. You don't understand what a "nested hierarchy" is, and why that is strong evidence for common descent.
2. You do understand what a "nested hierarchy" is, and why that is strong evidence for common descent, but are obfuscating because you don't like the conclusion.
3. You do understand what a "nested hierarchy" is, and why that is strong evidence for common descent, but are obfuscating for some other reason.
Or something else. Help me out here, is it 1, 2 or 3, or something else? I personally think that it's not #1, because it's not that hard a concept, and you said you were going to school to be in the ministry back in 2016. (So are you in school now?)
It's pretty cool to see how clearly the mutations in the GULO pseudogene make a nice nested hierarchy, and I personally give God more glory for making a system that could so clearly show the history here. I wonder if you share that wonder at what God has made?
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Think about what those things ARE though, not just how simple they should be. Eyes are an incredibly useful tool for survival. If you register light to learn about your environment, that's an eye. Mammary glands are one solution out of many for the problem of providing your young with nutrients long enough for them to get those nutrients on their own. Other solutions include egg yolks, long gestation periods, mothers dying so their young can eat them, and mothers finding food for their young.
Name one time they were wrong. Preferably one from someone who should have been able to find it, not some quack saying he has a gut feeling.
Coelocanths were not believed to be entirely freshwater. Much like some groups of fish today, there were species of coelocanth found in freshwater, species in brackish water, and species in saltwater. Also coelocanth isn't a single species as many people think. There are two species known to be alive today and many that are extinct.
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You misunderstand or I didnt convey what I was trying to say very well. What I mean is that within the layers of Earth meaning the ground... There are found simple organisms and complex organisms in every layer. The ground is not layered with simple organisms on the bottom developing instages in each layer as evolutionist would try to teach. Thank you for your kind and christian comment on my post.
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Since the Cambrian Era is a made up and a so called scientific term, you can probably guess that I do not believe for one minute that there was ever such an era. Scintists have used every device known to man to try and prove it, but have not. Your unwillingness to address my othet evidence proving that it is false shows that you are not walking in truth. Not to mention that you are taking the word of a book called, " The Origin Of Species by means of Natural Selection or The Preservation Of The Favored Races in the Struggle of Life" over the Bible. The idea of evolution has been responsible for all types of evil, in fact it was the foundation for Hitler's actions against groups of people. Just ignore the fact that there is inumerable evidence that people saw dinosaurs just a few hundred years ago. If you really were interested in truth you would find it. That's OK just belive whatever you were taught like a good little solider while you ignore all the evidence right before your eyes. The funniest part about evolution is that scientists are confusing death with evolution. Cells are actually degenerating when they mutate..Look around you..we are not evolving.
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and, even more importantly, is saying the same thing the experts say, and thus has just as much credibility. That's the polar opposite of others on this thread who not only have no geology background, but say the opposite of what the experts say.
Credentials matter if one is disagreeing with the experts. If one is accepting what the experts say, then credentials aren't needed.
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Um.... *All* terms are "made up terms", because all words are made up. "The Bible" is a "made up term". People invent words. What, do you think we find new words growing on trees?
You know that Hitler was a creationist believing that the species were made fully formed, and even says so right in his famous book "Mein Kampf", right?
"The fox remains always a fox, the goose remains a goose, and the tiger will retain the character of a tiger." - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. 2, chap. 11
He extends this to humans and talks about God too. And he had all the Nazi uniforms say "God is with us"?
and you know that Hitler also banned the teaching of evolution and included Darwin's Origin of Species on his list of books banned by the official Nazi banned book list?
Banned books include:
Inhalt die falsche naturwissenschaftliche Aufkl�rung eines primitiven Darwinismus und Monismus ist (H�ckel). 6. Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (H�ckel).
7. B�cher �ber K�nste, deren Vertreter der entarteten blutleeren, rein konstruktiven 'Kunst' positiv gew�rdigt werden (Grosz, Dix, Bauhaus, Mendelsohn). 7. Books that advocate "art" which is decadent, bloodless, or purely constructivist (Grosz, Dix, Bauhaus, Mendelsohn).
8. Schriften der Sexualp�dagogik und zur sexuellen Aufkl�rung, die sich in den Dienst des Genu�egoismus der Einzelperson stellen und damit volks- und rassezerst�rend im h�chsten Grade wirken (Hirschfeld). 8. Writings on sexuality and sexual education which serve the egocentric pleasure of the individual and thus, completely destroy the principles of race and Volk (Hirschfeld).
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10. Die Literatur j�discher Autoren, gleichviel welcher Gebiete. 10. Literature by Jewish authors, regardless of the field.
When Books Burn: Lists of Banned Books, 1933-1939 7. B�cher �ber K�nste, deren Vertreter der entarteten blutleeren, rein konstruktiven 'Kunst' positiv gew�rdigt werden (Grosz, Dix, Bauhaus, Mendelsohn). 7. Books that advocate "art" which is decadent, bloodless, or purely constructivist (Grosz, Dix, Bauhaus, Mendelsohn).
8. Schriften der Sexualp�dagogik und zur sexuellen Aufkl�rung, die sich in den Dienst des Genu�egoismus der Einzelperson stellen und damit volks- und rassezerst�rend im h�chsten Grade wirken (Hirschfeld). 8. Writings on sexuality and sexual education which serve the egocentric pleasure of the individual and thus, completely destroy the principles of race and Volk (Hirschfeld).
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10. Die Literatur j�discher Autoren, gleichviel welcher Gebiete. 10. Literature by Jewish authors, regardless of the field.
It doesn't help us as Christians when you bring up Hitler.
Christians citing these known debunked hoaxes only makes Christians look gullible. Wanna buy some nephilim thighbones for $450?
http://mtblanco.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/giants-book-cover-205x300.jpg
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Papias
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