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That doesn't address the point, pure evasion

No, it is not an evasion. It is a truth that shatters your belief.
Jesus says he that sins is a slave to sin.
Jesus said this is a negative way to the Pharisees and not as some kind of universal truth for everyone.


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No, it is not an evasion. It is a truth that shatters your belief.
Jesus says he that sins is a slave to sin.
Jesus said this is a negative way to the Pharisees and not as some kind of universal truth for everyone.


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You are misunderstanding the passage anyway, as usual.
 
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Doesn't matter, break one law and you are guilty if breaking them all

No. The context is the ROYAL LAW and not all law.
James is not talking about breaking the command on being baptized here.
He is specifically talking about the Law of love.


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Jason, you preach condemnation.

Jesus preached redemption.

Not true at all. Jesus preached both redemption and condemnation.

Jesus said repent or perish (Luke 13:3).

16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." (John 3:16-21).



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No. The context is the ROYAL LAW and not all law.
James is not talking about breaking the command on being baptized here.
He is specifically talking about the Law of love.


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James specifically states you are guilty of breaking ALL of it.

Stop trying to twist what scripture states. You are more guilty of this than anyone I have debated with
 
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Jason.

NOT ONE of you keeps the law, why are you trying to kill me?
John 7:19

Think you need gain the true understanding of John 8:33:36

Context says,

"If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;." (John 8:31).


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James specifically states you are guilty of breaking ALL of it.

Stop trying to twist what scripture states. You are more guilty of this than anyone I have debated with

All of what? Which law was he talking about in context? James 2:8 references his breaking of the Royal Law.


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I get it, I cannot depend on myself...I cannot depend on my righteousness.

It is Christ and Him crucified.

In Christ
Daniel

It's not your righteousness!

I said Christ does the good work in the believer.


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Context?

It states:

NOT ONE of you keeps the law

No. He was talking to the Pharisees and not his disciples. He says if you continue in my word then you are my disciples indeed in John 8:31. 1 John 2:5-6 says,

5 "But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."
(1 John 2:5-6).


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No. He was talking to the Pharisees and not his disciples. He says if you continue in my word then you are my disciples indeed in John 8:31. 1 John 2:5-6 says,

5 "But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."
(1 John 2:5-6).


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Doesn't say he was specifically speaking to the Pharisees!
More scripture twisting and adding to what is stated
 
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It's not your righteousness!

I said Christ does the good work in the believer.


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The same thing the Pharisee said...
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

He gave credit to God for his good works as well.

It is Christ's righteousness that is imputed toward us.
Christ and Him crucified.

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Anyways, I need to take a break and cook something to eat.
I may be back later possibly.

May God's goodness be upon everyone here.



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Jason, have a good meal.

May our Lord bless you.

In Christ
Daniel
 
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