The Double Message of Eternal Security.
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Well, actually, the Bible gives us the answer in Hebrews 10:26.
Anyways, I am taking a break for a bit today.
I might be back later.
May the Lord's love shine upon you all.
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How can we willfully sin if we are walking in the Spirit. Does the Spirit lead us to sin, especially willfully?
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Not at all, we have two natures. As men we do fail. This is why Christ is our covering. We place our trust in Him. He has done it all for us. We as Christians consider the flesh as dead already, We live in Christ.
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What do you mean we "consider" the flesh as dead already? Isn't is really?
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Jason, you do understand Paul is talking to Israel here. If you return to the Law, Christ's sacrifice is for naught. It is ineffective.
Rom 10:17-18 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Christ is our sacrifice, the end of sacrifice.
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When you come to Christ and believe the Gospel. Christ has died for our sins according to scripture, He was buried and on the third day He rose from the grave according to scripture.
You are truly born again, if you truly believe the Gospel. This is why we Baptize one another.
First, because Christ commanded us to do so.
Second, because it is a public declaration that Christ has redeemed you.
Third, It represents our own death and resurrection.
We died, we are resurrected with Christ. It is no longer us, but Christ that lives in us. We are now born of the Grace of God, not under the Law.
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Carry each others burdens and so fulfill the law if Christ gal6:2
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Rom 1-7 is talking about applicable NC law. Or do you believe the Christian is entitled to covet/ lust?
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there is no 'always saved' (except salvation for the personalities (not for the souls) that are saved), there is an eternal judgment(circle of existence and positions of the souls) - no soul can remain in the same position for more than one cycle of eternity, in the best case the soul could be saved for many consecutive cycles of eternity, but not for all the time's infinity, which is why eternal salvation depends on whether people are saved now
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Actually I do, I am at peace. I am rested as I rest in Christ. I know exactly when the Holy Spirit takes control, gives me the words to say. I am humbled by Him. My anger is gone. I could never put to words the peace God has given me.
Most of all, I know I am loved.
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Again I have two natures fighting within me. My flesh does want to sin. My spirit hates it. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Christ and Him crucified!
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Look. Let's get something straight here. I am not close to anything of what you are teaching because it is a doctrine I believe is really, really, really wrong. I see Eternal Security as a license for immorality or evil. So there is no such thing as.... "I am close" to anything related to what you believe.
Christ's sacrifice was for the purpose of making us holy and or to live righteously (See Ephesians 5:25-27 and Titus 2:14).
You said:
No. Sin still leads to spiritual death for even the believer. See Matthew 13:41-42 and Matthew 7:21-27.
False grace is a license for immorality (Jude 1:4). The true grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and that we should walk soberly, righteously, and Godly in this present world (Titus 2:11-12).
You said:
The problem is that you have not been listening.
I believe it is Christ who does the good work in me.
Hence, why God (Christ) alone is good.
You said:
Not true. Sins unto death are any sins that lead to the "Second Death" (Which is also known as the Lake of Fire). We see Jesus warns us about if you look upon a woman in lust, your whole body could be cast into hell fire (Matthew 5:28-30). Jesus says if you do not forgive, you will not be forgiven (Matthew 6:15).
You said:
It does not fit together in the way that you suggest. The contrast here is the wages of sin is spiritual death vs. the gift of God which is spiritual life or eternal life.
You said:
1 John 2:3 says,
"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments."
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Always, go back to the foundation. Go back to Christ and Him crucified.
When you find yourself drifting off the path...go back to the foundation.
When you find yourself in sin....go back to the foundation.
When you are having trouble with doctrine...go back to the foundation
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Daniel
When you find yourself drifting off the path...go back to the foundation.
When you find yourself in sin....go back to the foundation.
When you are having trouble with doctrine...go back to the foundation
In Christ
Daniel
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1 John 5:16
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
Jason, please stop adding to God's Word. It isn't sins unto death it is Sin unto death. That sin is unbelief.
In Christ
Daniel
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
Jason, please stop adding to God's Word. It isn't sins unto death it is Sin unto death. That sin is unbelief.
In Christ
Daniel
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