The Resurrection of the Body and Why It Matters

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When Christ returns, the dead will rise — they will be resurrected. "With what body do they come?" some ask. Will their atoms be re-assembled? Will there be male and female? Will we recognize one another? Will we look young, or old? And many other questions are asked.

It is understandable that we ask. But it is also understandable that we cannot understand what immortal life will be like, just as a fetus cannot understand what adult life is like, or a blind person has difficulty in understanding color. Perhaps being glorified will be like entering new dimensions that we have never known before. We do not have the words to describe it because our words are based on our experiences in this age. Just as we cannot describe the aroma of coffee, we cannot describe our future life.

Scripture does not give us a detailed description of what life will be like when we have glorified bodies. It does tell us 1) that we will be with God forever and 2) that we who trust in Christ will find it to be an immensely enjoyable life. We will enter our Master's happiness, and in his presence there are pleasures forevermore. We will never be bored, for we finite beings will always have new things to learn and enjoy about God's infinite goodness.

Scripture also tells us that when Christ returns, we will be like him (1 John 3:2). Paul tells us that our bodies will be changed when the final trumpet sounds (1 Cor. 15:51-52). And this brings us back to the question of what our bodies will be like.

There are two ways to study this question. The first is to ask what kind of body Jesus had after his resurrection, and the second is to see what Paul wrote about our bodies in the resurrection. We have limited information about both, but we can see how they might fit together.

The resurrected Jesus
After his resurrection, Jesus could be recognized as Jesus. Special intervention was needed to prevent two disciples from recognizing him (Luke 24:16). Jesus had flesh and bones, and some of the marks of crucifixion (v. 39). He could be touched, and he could eat. But he could also miraculously appear in locked rooms, or ascend into heaven (John 20:19-20; Acts 1:9).

But is this the way Jesus now is? Is there a five foot six inch body of flesh and bones somewhere in outer space? Is Jesus normally invisible, or does his body shine in glory, or does he look like a lamb that has been slain — a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes? (Rev. 5:6). Or are all of these appearances merely appearances, not necessarily a permanent shape or form?

I see a couple of basic facts here: First, that the tomb was empty and the body of Jesus was gone. Second, that the resurrected Jesus had a body, although that body had some extraordinary properties. The simplest way to connect these two facts is to conclude that the body of Jesus was resurrected and changed. The new Jesus had physical continuity with the old Jesus, but there were important differences.

I do not believe that Jesus has to remain visible to our eyes. When he appeared, his body reflected photons; when he disappeared, it did not. Yet in both states, Jesus had a body.

He inhabits eternity, and he does not have to conform to the finite electromagnetic quantum world that we are able to investigate. And for that reason, I do not believe that Jesus' body has to conform to the dimensions that we know.

Our questions about "size" and "location" are based on limits that probably do not apply to Jesus Christ. Such questions may make no more sense than asking what purple smells like — we are asking about a condition with terminology that is not suited for that condition.

Our resurrection
Paul tells us that we will be changed — metamorphosized (1 Cor. 15:51). The body will then be imperishable, immortal, glorious, powerful and spiritual (vs. 42-44, 53). But yet it will be a body, and it will have some continuity with the old body.

Paul compares this change to the sprouting of a seed (v. 37). A tree does not look at all like an acorn, but it has physical continuity with the acorn. A butterfly looks nothing like a caterpillar, but it has physical continuity with it. Our metamorphosis may involve an even more dramatic change in what we are like. We cannot predict what it will be like any more than we can predict whether some unfamiliar seed will grow into a tree, or a flower.

The point is that there is continuity as well as change. It is not like the old body is totally abandoned, nor is it totally kept. We do not worry about reassembling all of the atoms that were once part of our bodies (that would be impossible, for bodies decompose after death and their atoms become atoms of other things, sometimes of other people's bodies). But Paul still talks about the resurrection of the body.

He expects to find the tombs empty and the bones all gone. I do not know how this works, and I suspect it involves realities I know nothing about. Lacking any further information, I simply have to accept what Paul was inspired to write: the body will be raised, and it will have new qualities.

Some may ask, What is a spiritual body? Isn't that a contradiction of terms?

No, Paul is talking about a body that is different from the bodies we know, but he is not talking about a body that is "made" of spirit. In verse 44, when he says that our current bodies are "natural," he uses the Greek word psychikos, which is the adjective form of the word psyche, or soul. He is not talking about a body made out of soul, but a body that is characterized in some way by soul.

Similarly, when he says the body will become a spiritual body, he uses the word pneumatikos, the adjective form of pneuma, or spirit. He is not talking about a body made out of spirit any more than he is talking about a body made out of soul. But the body will be characterized by spirit, perhaps in the same way that a spiritual person is (Gal. 6:1), with an ability to understand spiritual things. We will not understand what this body is like until it is given to us.

Why bother with the body?
Why does God bother with our bodies? Wouldn't it be far simpler to take our spirits to heaven and live forever with the Lord without any bother with a resurrection?

I do not claim to have a complete answer. I do know that God created physical matter, and it is therefore good. God did not make it just to destroy it later. He will keep the physical world in a renewed form, in a new heavens and new earth.

The physical body is not some evil thing that we need to escape from (as many non-Christians have taught). Jesus had a physical body, and there was nothing wrong with that.

In fact, Jesus was made flesh for the very purpose of redeeming all things (Col. 1:19-20). God is not abandoning the physical world — he is rescuing it. Romans 8:21 tells us that the physical creation will be liberated from its bondage when we are transformed into glory. This salvation involves the "redemption of our bodies" (v. 23).

Yes, our bodies will be redeemed, not discarded. Our bodies will be raised immortal and imperishable, freed from the decay that affects the physical world today. Christ has made it possible, as shown in his own resurrection with a body that transcends the limits of space and time.

The fact that the physical world will be redeemed, the fact that our bodies will be raised, means that we must value the physical world that God has placed us in and made us part of.

We are to care for the creation and to care for our bodies. We are to have environmental concerns and health concerns; we are to have interests in the biological and physical sciences. We are not to abandon the world we live in, but we are to improve it in whatever small ways we can.

Similarly, we are not to abandon the social world we live in, but are to improve it when we can, working against evil and promoting justice. The fact that our bodies will be redeemed and raised emphasizes our need to be involved in the world in a positive way. We are not escapists, merely biding time until time ends, but we are involved, letting Christ live in us and grow in us until we are raised with him in glory and we see him as he is and we share in his eternal joy.


From: http://www.gci.org/prophecy/resbody


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The Bible says we shall be conformed to the image of Jesus..

Romans 8: KJV
29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."

Jesus is described in the First chapter in the Book of Revelation::

Revelation 1:KJV
13 "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. {14} His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; {15} And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. {16} And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength."
 
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The Bible says we shall be conformed to the image of Jesus..

Romans 8: KJV
29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."

Jesus is described in the First chapter in the Book of Revelation::

Revelation 1:KJV
13 "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. {14} His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; {15} And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. {16} And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength."


By the same token, John wrote the following:

1 John 3:2: "2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is."


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Malachi 3:2 links up with the 6th seal as to when He will appear.


Jesus does not appear at all while the tribulation is taking place. But rather, He will return to end it in Rev.19:11-21.


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Malachi 3:2 links up with the 6th seal as to when He will appear.

Jesus returns at the Last trumpet.. which is the 7th trumpet in the Book of Revelation..

1 Corinthians 15: KJV
51 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, {52} In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

1 Thessalonians 4: KJV

15 "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. {16} For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: {17} Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Matthew 24: KJV

29 "¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: {30} And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. {31} And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

Revelation 10: KJV
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."
 
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He did not appear before it. He does appear after the 7th trumpet sounds which happens before the 7th seal is opened.

What do the wicked say in the time of the 6th seal?
What does Malachi 3:2 tell us the wicked say when He appears?

What does Isaiah 2:10-12 and 2:19-21 tell happens when the wicked will hide in the rocks?

The wicked do not hide in the rocks at the end of Revelation 19. This is not when Jesus Christ returns for His church. He is coming with the saints for the battle.
Where does Revelation 19 tell you they come from?
followed Him from where?
heaven

Where did John say that the great tribulation occurs?
Rev. 7?
Was the 7th seal opened yet?
no


First of all, the seventh seal contains the seven trumpet judgment. In the second place, the seventh trumpet in Rev.11, is a parenthetic passage that does not take place chronologically until in Rev.19:11-21, when Hesus returns from the marriage in heaven, to end the tribulation.

The tribulation begins with the first rider on the white horse, of the four horsemen, in the first of the seven seals, in Rev.6:2.


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What seal has the sun darkened and the stars of heaven fall?
6th seal
The trumpets are ending before the 7th seal begins - with silence in heaven.

I posted Matthew 24 in my post... Did you read it?

What comes first in matthew 24 the Sun darkened and the stars falling or the last trumpet.. ?? Here i will post the scriptures again:::

Matthew 24: KJV
29 "¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: {30} And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. {31} And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

So Jesus said the Sun would be darkened and the Stars would fall from the sky And then Jesus would be seen comming in the sky and then the last trumpet would sound..
 
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Is a full vial ready to be poured out in Rev. 21? no
John relates subjects to us by what he saw them do before. Revelation 8:2 does not introduce a new set of angels - but only begins to tell us a story of what the seven angels have already done.

Did John see a new set of angels in Revelation 7:1?
How do you know?
John did not use the definite article.
Just as if I had asked to you to go to the library and get the seven books. Does the library only have seven books in it or did I use the definite article because you are already familiar with the books I'm referring to?

Revelation 8:2 has "the seven angels"
What had they already done?
stood before God
Why?
Is that when they sounded the seven trumpets?
Is that when they were given the seven trumpets - back in Revelation 7? yes
And that actually folds into the time before the 6th seal seal?
yes

Revelation 7 - four angels - we angels - and the great tribulation - yet the 7th seal was not opened.

What happens at the end of Revelation 15?
But where were those out of great tribulation found in Revelation 7?
So - the seven plagues of the seven angels ended first?
yes
The seven plagues - trumpets times - will end before men can be inside the temple in Revelation 7 that came out of great tribulation.

What does Luke 1 and the OT show about the time of incense in the temple?
the people pray outside of it

What happens in the story of Rev. 8?
incense
But this really happened in Revelation 7 before men could enter into the temple of God.


May I suggest, for the answers to the questions you ask in your above post, that you take a course of Eschatology at a recognized Bible College, or listen to and accept the teachings of it from those with the qualifications to do so.


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