The misinformation in your post is almost impressive. I'll try to wade through it.
All people are the elect of God?
No. Obviously not. What I actually said was (you'd realize this if you weren't bent set on trying to find fault in my posts), people who believe as I believe assume everyone we come in contact is the elect of God until they prove that they aren't. You see, we don't start off assuming that someone needs to do something that we can verify, e.g., say a prayer, accept Jesus into their heart, be baptized, etc., before we assume that God will eventually redeem them. It's not that we don't see any of those actions on the part of the person as appropriate for someone who
has been redeemed. We just assume that someone will, at some point, reflect through their actions that God has redeemed them, even if they aren't showing evidence of that currently. If, on the other hand, they die in their unbelief, obviously they weren't one of the elect of God.
So people can lose election, which in effect, is losing salvation.
No. Of course not. You see, when you grossly mischaracterize someone else's view and then run with that misunderstanding, and then start asking them nonsensical questions based on that misunderstanding and expecting them to defend your inaccurate depiction of their views...that's what's called a strawman. You have an entire field of them in these discussions.
A little boasting on the side is good for you, huh (Those who understand the Scriptures as I do)?
Only someone as sophomoric as you would see that as boasting. Here...let me help. "Those who understand the Scriptures as I do" is a qualifying statement, meant to distinguish between those who believe Scripture is properly interpreted to mean the things that I believe as opposed to those who believe Scripture is properly interpreted in a different manner. To imply what you accuse me of, I would have said something like, "Those who understand the Scriptures as
well as I do..." I understand, to someone like you, it may seem like a minor change but it actually makes a world of difference to the meaning of the sentence.
Let's see, you say "you're in until you prove you're out". So, everybody is saved until they prove they aren't. Too bad, they can lose their salvation. Are you sure this is your belief?
I'm absolutely sure your lack of understanding does
not represent my beliefs. I understand that you think you know everything but, in truth, you don't. Guess what? Neither do I. Neither does any other person. So, my point with "you're in until you prove that you're out" is a reflection of my acknowledgement of my finitude. Being that my ability to know a person's heart is restricted to what my limited senses can tell me, and that imperfectly, I start with the presumption that someone is in the "I am/will be saved by God" club. You may sit at the mean girls table and say things like "you can't sit with us" until someone does whatever little salvation tap dance you require to consider them worthy of inclusion in your little "We're the chosen of God because we accepted Jesus into our hearts" club but, that's not how I operate.
Ephesians 2:12
remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
So, even they are in, they are separated from Christ and have no hope without God in the world.
Actually that is an excellent example of my position. Thank you for sharing it. So, as the context reveals, Gentiles were
at one time separated from God, strangers to the covenants of promise. But, as is seen in the unfolding of God's merciful plan, God
ALWAYS intended to bring them into the fold. So, seeing Gentiles as members of the club wasn't about whether they converted to Judaism. It was about recognizing that God had a plan to graft them into the vine. You see, you're like the Pharisee. You look at someone and say, "Hmmmm....I wonder if they're part of God's family. Well, if they haven't prayed the prayer and accepted Jesus into their hearts, they're not." And that is how you approach them. Because, for you, it's about what you do. It's about you plan for yourself. That's how you measure inclusion. It's not about God's plan. It's not about recognizing that God works all things after the counsel of His own will.
I'm pretty sure Judas thought just as you do.
Lol! Well, we can't all be like the wise and powerful EmSw, ruler of the land of make believe. A lot of people believe they know their eternal destiny, like you for instance. You think you are destined to Heaven because you've met the criteria. Unfortunately, that leaves the back door open to abandon all that. I, on the other hand, recognize that my salvation was purchased for me by the blood of the Lamb, applied to me by the power of God through the Holy Spirit, and held in Heaven for me by the power of God.
How do you know where God intends you to be?
I believe God intends me to ultimately be in Heaven. This is evidenced by my faith in Him. Faith is a gift, and it is only given to those whom God saves, and He saves everyone to whom He gives it. Now, if my faith is not true, then that means that God intends me to be in that other place, hanging out with you probably. Either way, I'll end up where He intends. You see, unlike you, I recognize God's sovereignty. That means that if He decrees that I go to hell, that's exactly where I'll end up. It's about His plan and purpose EmSw. I know, I know. That thought is so foreign to your way of thinking that you struggle with it. You see, I recognize there is a God and that I'm not Him. I don't decide the destiny of the creation. The Creator does. I get that you think it is the will of the creation that facilitates or thwarts the will of the Creator. I understand you glory in your own wisdom and worthiness. It's just not biblical.
That's pretty brash to think you know God has chosen you.
Well, actually, it's not so brash as you would think. You see, God has chosen...everyone. Yes everyone EmSw, even you. I know, I know. Such a concept is a shock to the system of a person like you. People who think their place in Heaven is appropriated by themselves because they made the right choices struggle with understanding that, even though their choices were the result of (not the basis for) God predestining them to glory, they made the right choices because God gave them the nature to make those choices. And, in fact, the very reason He gave them that nature was so that they would make the choices they made. Here's the thing though...follow along....I'll try to keep it simple for you, some He has chosen to be objects of His
mercy, and some he has chosen to be objects of His
wrath. In both cases, it is God who chooses. See how that works? God is God and, well, EmSw is...not.
So, if He has predestined you to eternal torment, God will not fail to carry that out.
That's correct.
And that combined with not keeping His commandments (passivity) in order to have the truth in you, your chances aren't looking good.
I have no clue what this means. I don't understand the passivity comment but, again, I'm not worried. I know that if I inherit eternal life, I will have done so because God was merciful and reckoned me righteous because of Christ's vicarious atonement. If, instead, he condemns me, I will know I earned it and God is glorified in that. Either way, God is glorified.
You, well, I wish you the best of luck. I know you're counting on your own steadfastness to secure your place in Heaven and, well, your chances aren't looking good.