What is REALLY going on with Donald Trump??

WilliamBo · May 21, 2017

I am not into politics (anymore) because as a Christian I see the amount of division, strife, and bitterness it causes and really turns me off. During the election, i was all for Donald Trump and completely against hilary, obama, and all the left because i firmly believed the democrats, the left, was a very immoral part of the government.

I watch youtube prophecy videos a lot and i have been hearing how obama is part of the anti-christ figure in revelation, how trump is ordained by God to bring healing to our nation and the world, how Trump has turned his back on God now and is becoming wicked.... all kinds of stuff and i really don't know what to make of it all. during the election all the ''evangelical christians'' were pulling for Trump, and the way the left is so firmly against Trump kind of makes me think he is doing the right thing. some people are saying that in revelation where it says ''after the last trump'' is referring to trump and how he is the last president before the rapture. it kind of all scares me a little bit.

I have been hearing all kinds of stuff about trump but i know the media lies so i cant really tell what is true or not, so i'd like to hear what some fellow Christians see. I LOVED what trump was doing during his first 60 days but have lost track. Alex Jones was all for trump but has recently turned his back on trump and i can't really see why, he was mainstream medias BIGGEST supporter of Trump by far, making ''trump/pence 2020'' shirts and everything, and now he is calling for Trump to be empeached!

What do you see is going on biblically or spiritually? Trump is a professing Christian and he is doing some BIG stuff in this country and in the world and I cant tell if it's for the good or for the bad.

What do you think is going on with Trump?

gadar perets · May 21, 2017

WilliamBo said:
some people are saying that in revelation where it says ''after the last trump'' is referring to trump and how he is the last president before the rapture. it kind of all scares me a little bit.

I can't address Trump, but this thing about the "last trump" is utter foolishness. The "last trump" mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:52 refers to the resurrection of the dead in Messiah at the seventh trumpet of Revelation 11. That trumpet is the last of the seven trumpets and the last trumpet mentioned in Scripture.

Nithavela · May 21, 2017

WilliamBo said:
I am not into politics (anymore) because as a Christian I see the amount of division, strife, and bitterness it causes and really turns me off. During the election, i was all for Donald Trump and completely against hilary, obama, and all the left because i firmly believed the democrats, the left, was a very immoral part of the government.

I watch youtube prophecy videos a lot and i have been hearing how obama is part of the anti-christ figure in revelation, how trump is ordained by God to bring healing to our nation and the world, how Trump has turned his back on God now and is becoming wicked.... all kinds of stuff and i really don't know what to make of it all. during the election all the ''evangelical christians'' were pulling for Trump, and the way the left is so firmly against Trump kind of makes me think he is doing the right thing. some people are saying that in revelation where it says ''after the last trump'' is referring to trump and how he is the last president before the rapture. it kind of all scares me a little bit.

I have been hearing all kinds of stuff about trump but i know the media lies so i cant really tell what is true or not, so i'd like to hear what some fellow Christians see. I LOVED what trump was doing during his first 60 days but have lost track. Alex Jones was all for trump but has recently turned his back on trump and i can't really see why, he was mainstream medias BIGGEST supporter of Trump by far, making ''trump/pence 2020'' shirts and everything, and now he is calling for Trump to be empeached!

What do you see is going on biblically or spiritually? Trump is a professing Christian and he is doing some BIG stuff in this country and in the world and I cant tell if it's for the good or for the bad.

What do you think is going on with Trump?

What?

What?

The last Trump before the rapture?

What?!

Petros2015 · May 21, 2017

#1 - Stop watching youtube prophecy videos. They are nonsense and full of lies.

#2 - The fruits of the Spirit are: love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. If you ever see a candidate that has those qualities, consider voting for them.

frienden thalord · May 21, 2017

Will, fear not my friend , fear not.
but I will give you good advice.
You know how bad the liberal churches got, then what happened..........they got Obama
and fell all the way down.
Trump is not the savoir the evangelical right thought either.
as Obama was delusion to the left , so trump will be to the right.
Trump, when it comes to religion is just as universal new age as was Obama and hillery.
And he will bring it into the churches. Just wait for the one agenda all have in common
rears up in trump. Both sides are all about interfaith. So is trump.
HE is deception to the church , he will do what hillery could not have done.
its judgment . because the churches just got worse .
Had hillery tried to push a more positive accepting christanity on the right , they would have refused.
but when trump does it.......they will bow under their king and sell out GOD for good.
It hurts me to have to watch , what I know is coming.
but the pattern is the same. and none repented. yet expect blessings. IT don't happen without repentance.
delusion will be what the right gets.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · May 21, 2017

WilliamBo said:
I am not into politics (anymore) because as a Christian I see the amount of division, strife, and bitterness it causes and really turns me off. During the election, i was all for Donald Trump and completely against hilary, obama, and all the left because i firmly believed the democrats, the left, was a very immoral part of the government.

I don't see how you thought Trump as being moral.

frienden thalord · May 21, 2017

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
I don't see how you thought Trump as being moral.

Just be happy the man fled politics.
I did not vote trump, but I did not vote hillery either.

Fantine · May 21, 2017

God didn't "ordain" Trump to be president of the U.S. He gave human beings free will, and this resulted in Russian interference in our elections, red states turning away voters through voter suppression laws, and other very UN-godly sins---sins that makes Jesus, looking at the world situation today, weep.

Given Trump's record of telling the truth (which I think has been tracked at 23%) I feel sure that his profession of Christianity is one of those lies.

The only Biblical character I can find that he resembles is the rich man crying out from hell to Lazarus (Trump has bankrupted small businesses all over the world by refusing to pay for work they completed). Except I'm not sure whether he'd ask Lazarus to warn his relatives...Ivanka...maybe...

Desk trauma · May 22, 2017

frienden thalord said:
Just be happy the man fled politics.

Unless the earth shattering news of the US president pulling a Palin has somehow gone unnoticed by the press the man has not fled politics.

Desk trauma · May 22, 2017

Fantine said:
God didn't "ordain" Trump to be president of the U.S. He gave human beings free will, and this resulted in Russian interference in our elections, red states turning away voters through voter suppression laws, and other very UN-godly sins---sins that makes Jesus, looking at the world situation today, weep.

I'm curious, what in the Bible makes you think that voters suppression would be sinful? For that matter what in the Bible supports democratic government or individual liberty at all?

FanthatSpark · May 22, 2017

Lets simplify. Matthew 6:24 Luke 6:13 James 4:4 .

The people: Slaved to money under "good consciousness" money provides for children. The gotcha effect : Increase time to gaining that dollar by making it 2 jobs for creature comforts (uneducated) and or... indoctrinate child to 22 - 30 years of education (knowledge "alone" gathering) in how to make the better dollar. Put that under debt to further dollar acquisition and lifes time line to 40 to 50 years paying off that debt . Gotcha Effect in verses above in what do you chase? Who made you chase it? Who makes you pay Caesar?

Don't get that previous sentence bent under Mark 12:13-17. Jesus talks to the "hypocrite" not the saved man/woman. That verse is what preachers use to the unsuspecting congregation to "pay Caesar". Not understood by the unsuspecting preacher follower is whats not explaining in time line. By said preachers is... No comforter/Holy Spirit until his death & rise to Heaven, thus judged hypocrite (by Jesus, God himself in the flesh) in Mark 12:13-17. Thus, he curses them to slavery to the dollar & knowledge alone until they learn love, light, holy spirit, goodness was never in them/us = hypocrite and above verses added to Galatians 5:22-23 actually delves too Hebrews 4:12 in Romans 3:10 applied to Romans 12:2 and self. In Hope, this edifies.

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