Can God be described with gender?

  • Avoid gendered pronouns, remain gender neutral

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • God can be called both Father and Mother, both male/female pronouns

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • Only refer to God as Father and use male pronouns

    Votes: 26 66.7%

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Sammy-San

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Luciferean are those who serve the prince of this world aka Satan. They call him Lucifer, the shining one and the one who espouses to them knowledge to build their earthly Utopia, through an Anti-Christ / Anti-God figure.

What we observe today is the following.......

The destruction of nations by dissolving them into dictator style unions (EU)
The destruction of tribes by pitting them against each other
The destruction of religious bodies by pitting them against each other
The destruction of families through the homosexual agenda
The destruction of gender through the genderless agenda
The destruction of humanity through the transhumanist agenda
The destruction of free speech through censorship
The desttuction of free will through state imposed dictatorship
The destruction of fathers and mothers through the state taking away the right to educate and to rear up their own children.
The destruction of natural procreation by unnatural state sponsored sarrogates
The destruction of natural babies by abortion

The list goes on and one....this is an all out attack on God and his family union created in his own image.

When people start calling the Father mother then they are inadvertently serving the globalist lie.

What extent is blurring gender lines ungodly? Women used to not wear pants and suits. But a lot of Christians say mens fashion having skirts and dresses is feminizing men and is ungodly. But I read somewhere saying women wearing pants was different because it was practically.

Are luciferians and satanists different names for the same thing?

Essentially all of the occult is the same-messing around with evil and counterfeit power designed to deceive and dupe people from God-I don't know why so many different terms exist for the same garbage. Bibically speaking the difference between the terms "witch" and "satanist", are meaningless.

The other question I had was this-why did God create Satan with kinetic sin knowing he would be without salvation-because he has to test his creation no matter the tragic results of the choice?
 
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Are luciferians and satanists different names for the same thing?
I think I can answer this one.

Luciferians are people who believe that Satan (aka Lucifer) did the world a favor by giving us freedom to choose (i.e. Sin or not) which liberated mankind from a insecure God (aka Jesus) who wanted to keep them dumb like a His Own slaves. So in essence Lucifer is the good guy and Jesus wanted to keep Adam and Eve like slaves with no choices.

Satanists are more into Satan as a devil but they enjoy the power they get from him and see God doing nothing up there, where they experience Satan's power.

I'm pretty sure this is correct.
 
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I think I can answer this one.

Luciferians are people who believe that Satan (aka Lucifer) did the world a favor by giving us freedom to choose (i.e. Sin or not) which liberated mankind from a insecure God (aka Jesus) who wanted to keep them dumb like a His Own slaves. So in essence Lucifer is the good guy and Jesus wanted to keep Adam and Eve like slaves with no choices.

Satanists are more into Satan as a devil but they enjoy the power they get from him and see God doing nothing up there, where they experience Satan's power.

I'm pretty sure this is correct.

Why can't they just say "worshippers" for evil people instead of all these fancy words?
 
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Actually I think there are witches who consider themselves good (white magic) versus bad witches (black magic).

What I'm saying is bibically there is no difference between terms like "mystic" "witch" "shaman"-as far as I can think of. Both are people who toy with darkness.

Magic and sorcery and witchcraft seem the same think based on the bible. only people usually call drugs just sorcery.
 
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My thoughts are, there is spirit and there is reason, and Godfather is spirit and Godmother is reason. Both need and supplement each other in their design of the cosmos that is half born by them, and half created. It's like the old jewish idea that there is a marriage between heaven and earth. Here God is the groom and we are his bride, in Christ.
 
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My thoughts are, there is spirit and there is reason, and Godfather is spirit and Godmother is reason. Both need and supplement each other in their design of the cosmos that is half born by them, and half created. It's like the old jewish idea that there is a marriage between heaven and earth. Here God is the groom and we are his bride, in Christ.

what does groom and bride mean in this context?
 
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Wouldn't it be more idolatrous to insist that God is male even though God the Creator and Holy Spirit are not physical? I think that making God 'male' exclusively is an idolatry.

Jesus is male. Jesus is God. Thus God is male.

The Bible, which is God's inerrant and all sufficient word, also says that God is male. God has revealed Himself as male. If you reject that God is male, you are rejecting God and creating an idol.
 
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What I'm saying is bibically there is no difference between terms like "mystic" "witch" "shaman"-as far as I can think of. Both are people who toy with darkness.

Magic and sorcery and witchcraft seem the same think based on the bible. only people usually call drugs just sorcery.

Not true, original translations of the bible include different things such as Pharmakeia and Divination.
 
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Not true, original translations of the bible include different things such as Pharmakeia and Divination.

Isn't divination a type of witchcraft? Witchcraft can be simply defined as anything that derives it's power, guidance, or advice from Satan.
 
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Isn't divination a type of witchcraft? Witchcraft can be simply defined as anything that derives it's power, guidance, or advice from Satan.

The bible specifically refers to the spirits as well as demons, the Gods that should not be worshipped in not all comes from Satan

(86:8); “For great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised; he is to be revered above all gods” (96:4); “Our Lord is above all gods” (135:5); “Ascribe to Yahweh, [you] gods, ascribe to Yahweh glory and strength” (29:1, my trans.); “He is exalted above all gods” (97:7); “For Yahweh is a great god, and a great king above all gods” (95:3, my trans.). And so on.

the Bible translates the Hebrew 'esheth ba`alath 'obh by "a woman that hath a familiar spirit." A literal rendering would be "a woman who is mistress of an 'obh or ghost," i.e. one able to compel the departed spirit to return and to answer certain questions. This woman was therefore a necromancer, a species of diviner.

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The plural "witchcrafts" (in the King James Version and the Revised Version (British and American)) stands for the Hebrew noun just noticed (keshaphim) in 2 Kings 9:22; Micah 5:12; Nahum 3:4, but in all three passages a proper rendering would be "sorceries" or "magical arts." "Witchcrafts" is inaccurate and misleading.

The verb "bewitch" occurs in Acts 8:9,11 the King James Version (of Simon Magus bewitching the people) and in Galatians 3:1 ("O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you?"). In the first context the Greek verb is existemi, which is properly rendered by the Revisers "amazed"; in 3:13 the passive of the same verb is translated "he was amazed" (the King James Version "He wondered"). In Galatians 3:1, the verb is baskaubaino, which is used of a blinding effect of the evil eye and has perhaps an occult reference, but it has nothing whatever to do with "witch" or "witchcraft.""

Witchcraft is not even a concept truly at the time of the bible, they referred to different sorceries
 
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The bible specifically refers to the spirits as well as demons, the Gods that should not be worshipped in not all comes from Satan

(86:8); “For great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised; he is to be revered above all gods” (96:4); “Our Lord is above all gods” (135:5); “Ascribe to Yahweh, [you] gods, ascribe to Yahweh glory and strength” (29:1, my trans.); “He is exalted above all gods” (97:7); “For Yahweh is a great god, and a great king above all gods” (95:3, my trans.). And so on.

the Bible translates the Hebrew 'esheth ba`alath 'obh by "a woman that hath a familiar spirit." A literal rendering would be "a woman who is mistress of an 'obh or ghost," i.e. one able to compel the departed spirit to return and to answer certain questions. This woman was therefore a necromancer, a species of diviner.

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The plural "witchcrafts" (in the King James Version and the Revised Version (British and American)) stands for the Hebrew noun just noticed (keshaphim) in 2 Kings 9:22; Micah 5:12; Nahum 3:4, but in all three passages a proper rendering would be "sorceries" or "magical arts." "Witchcrafts" is inaccurate and misleading.

The verb "bewitch" occurs in Acts 8:9,11 the King James Version (of Simon Magus bewitching the people) and in Galatians 3:1 ("O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you?"). In the first context the Greek verb is existemi, which is properly rendered by the Revisers "amazed"; in 3:13 the passive of the same verb is translated "he was amazed" (the King James Version "He wondered"). In Galatians 3:1, the verb is baskaubaino, which is used of a blinding effect of the evil eye and has perhaps an occult reference, but it has nothing whatever to do with "witch" or "witchcraft.""

Witchcraft is not even a concept truly at the time of the bible, they referred to different sorceries

They are synonyms for each other
. A witch is one that is credited with usually malignant supernatural powers;

Definition of WITCH
 
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They are synonyms for each other

Definition of WITCH

No because Witchcraft is a modern term that describes a whole slew of different distinct sorceries in the jewish words

There are different spirits involved with different sorceries and being able to discern them is a spiritual gift according to corinthians definition - discern - the definition of discern

1 Corinthians 12:10
 
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So star wars isn't witchcraft? Then why is harry potter?


News Man: Remote Viewing - Witchcraft with a new name

Well star wars is a whole different universe with different laws of operation, some of the things the Jedi perform being of the light side, from our perspective if the light side is God, they are performing spiritual gifts such as healing, Sorcery as it was originally defined is the bargaining with spirits using words or rituals to petition or force ghosts or spirits to into doing things for them, infact George Lucas is noted with noting similarity between the force and the holy spirit, but he did it in a more dualistic aspect.

When they force objects to move, they don't do witchcrafts to do it, they do it from their gift and connection to the force, which one could extrapolate as a dualistic holy spirit.

That video is terrible because they are not divining, divining is the act of reading animal entrails or forcing spirits to give you visions, his definitions are niave at best. The girl in that witchcraft video is equally deluded and full of misinformation, Witchcraft isn't just an energy field, Its specific spirits being divined the ones God told us not to worship.

Matthew 17:20

Star wars you'll notice that the feats they perform, are not by casting pentacles or by sacrificing animals, they do them from sheer force of will, How did moses part the sea ? was he channeling Gods will ?

Harry potter is witchcraft because its they are using words and rituals to petition spirits to act them. I'm guessing you wouldn't let your children read lord of the rings then either ?
 
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what does groom and bride mean in this context?

First off, the God we worship as the Father of Jesus is more accurately described not as a god who is comparable to other gods, but instead as the Great Spirit of the cosmos. There is a term for this in philosophy, called PANENTHEISM. God is everything and yet more. That is about God's immanence in the world. We recognize it by seeing the duality between spirit and matter, spirit is God and matter is the cosmos (matter and energy being equivalent really). Now spirit, God, Abba, Jesus, Holy Spirit, etc, want to marry the cosmos and make it eternal and pure again. This would result in massive progress for us, essentially it makes the world become an outpost of Heaven and then we would get missions from God like planting life on empty planets in this universe. Doors between Heaven and Earth would open and the departed who lived in Heaven come back to live with us, and some from down here rise up to live in Heaven with the angels and cherubim. And it means the other deities of the world get purged from their pride and also become servants of God, as some of it has already happened and Buddha and Zeus recognize Jesus too. This is just my view, but you asked for it. God bless you!
 
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Well star wars is a whole different universe with different laws of operation, some of the things the Jedi perform being of the light side, from our perspective if the light side is God, they are performing spiritual gifts such as healing, Sorcery as it was originally defined is the bargaining with spirits using words or rituals to petition or force ghosts or spirits to into doing things for them, infact George Lucas is noted with noting similarity between the force and the holy spirit, but he did it in a more dualistic aspect.

When they force objects to move, they don't do witchcrafts to do it, they do it from their gift and connection to the force, which one could extrapolate as a dualistic holy spirit.

That video is terrible because they are not divining, divining is the act of reading animal entrails or forcing spirits to give you visions, his definitions are niave at best. The girl in that witchcraft video is equally deluded and full of misinformation, Witchcraft isn't just an energy field, Its specific spirits being divined the ones God told us not to worship.

Matthew 17:20

Star wars you'll notice that the feats they perform, are not by casting pentacles or by sacrificing animals, they do them from sheer force of will, How did moses part the sea ? was he channeling Gods will ?

Harry potter is witchcraft because its they are using words and rituals to petition spirits to act them. I'm guessing you wouldn't let your children read lord of the rings then either ?
Christians and Harry Potter

Harry does talk to ghosts and magical creatures. But he does no special magic to draw these things to him as is done in real witchcraft. Nor do the ghosts or magical creatures have anything to do with the magic Harry performs. They are most all borrowed from long established myths and fantasy traditions.
 
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