Can God create a stone so heavy he cannot lift?

NR90 said:

Can God create a stone so heavy he cannot lift?

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No, with GOD, ALL things are possible.

God can create a stone, then promise not to lift it. It's not "too heavy," but it "cannot be lifted by God" at that point because God has promised not to do it.

Nothing is impossible for God; but He can choose to make something abhorrent to His nature and therefore "undoable" for Him.

It's a fairly foolish question at the end of the day anyway. The person who asks it will very rarely expect an answer to it; and even if they recieve a good one, like 'Citizenthom' gives, it will only result in irritation. It's a deflection tool of the willfully ignorant.

At least thats my stance on it. The only time I see, from scripture, debating and answering questions like this as a good thing is for a watching crowd so that they may come to Christ. Jesus instructed the diciples that if a town did not welcome them and were not receptive to dust of their feet. People who ask this question are typically the same ones who claim not to 'care' about God and yet jump at the chance to declare that lack of care and mock.

NR90 said:

Can God create a stone so heavy he cannot lift?

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I think I heard that on the movie "What If" did you see it?

Well if all things are possible with God, then He can make Himself weak too, but He can also then make Himself strong again at any time, and in any place He chooses.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.....
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us... <-----> John 1:1+14

Also Scripture does state that there is at least one thing God "can't do" and that is lie.

In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; <-----> Titus 1:2

May The Lord Be Pleased !

wm

NR90 said:

Can God create a stone so heavy he cannot lift?

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Can God create a round square? Can you do the logically impossible? Then nor can God.

NR90 said:

Can God create a stone so heavy he cannot lift?

Can you provide good links to this if you can?

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I'm actually not aware of many links that give an adequate response. I remember finding one that was a blog from none other than an atheist going on to explain why he thinks the question is illogical. It was probably the best explanation I have read but unfortunately I cannot find it though I am looking.

Either way, link or no link the question is fallacious without first asking, "Is there a rock too heavy for God to lift?"

I can't imagine that He's so bored He'd want to bother trying!

My answer is that the question is meaningless. Can God XXX can only be answered if XXX has a meaning. But "a stone too heavy for God to lift it" is self-contradictory, so it doesn't describe anything. You can't answer a question about XXX if XXX doesn't describe anything.

NR90 said:

Can God create a stone so heavy he cannot lift?

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There you go.

Could God create a rock so heavy He could not lift it?

It just seems like a normal philosophy topic. Stones -- what are they in the scope of a 93 billion light year universe.

He would need somewhere to stand and brace Himself for the lift... and the universe is continually expanding, so there will always be more room to lift.

Jesus Christ as a person can not lift up a stone more that 100 kg (220 lb). But Jesus Christ as Creator created every stone and can lift up any stone.
Can God create a rock that He can’t lift?

No, the Almighty cannot create something greater than Himself. I don't know your motive in asking this - maybe someone challenged you with that question. My experience is that when people ask that question they are trying to be cutesy and they think that it stops all debates about what is really important in relation to the Heavenly Father. When they do that, they miss out big time with their little game.

The question has only a superficial appearance of meaning because of linguistics, but it's actually incoherent in meaning. Its like asking if God can create a square triangle. If put in mathematical form it would be equivalent to infinity minus infinity.

'a'=not 'a' is simply an illogical statement. Inserting the word "God' does not change the inherent illogic of the question.

John
NZ

Sanoy said:

Its like asking if God can create a square triangle.

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This question is fundamentally different than the OP question.

The problem with this question is one of logic. It flies in the face of God being all powerful. It says that God is subject to the "laws" of logic which HE Himself formulated and can set aside any time He wants.

Dave-W said:

This question is fundamentally different than the OP question.

The problem with this question is one of logic. It flies in the face of God being all powerful. It says that God is subject to the "laws" of logic which HE Himself formulated and can set aside any time He wants.

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It's different than the OPs question but I don't think it's fundamentally different. A square triangle is just as incoherent as an omnipotent being that is not omnipotent. When both statements are fully incoherent and contain no meaning how does one evaluate a difference? It's just a linguistic trick with illusory meaning.

Just as love refers to Gods nature I think logic refers to how God thinks. I think that is the only way in which the applicability of Logic is possible. God doesn't think in incoherent ways but in coherent ways. God is sane only, not sane and mad, or capable of madness.

Sanoy said:

God doesn't think in incoherent ways but in coherent ways. God is sane only, not sane and mad, or capable of madness.

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YOu are limiting God by saying this.
The bible teaches that His thoughts are higher than our thoughts. (Isa 55.9) I take that to mean (at least in part) His thoughts are way beyond our divisions of incoherent or coherent, sane or mad.