Completely disagree that nature has no goal. The goal of nature is to sustain man on this earth for an appointed time.
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What is intelligence, design, cause?
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Completely disagree that nature has no goal. The goal of nature is to sustain man on this earth for an appointed time.
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DESIGN:
Is God necessary for our existence?
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Must God exist for Man to Exist?
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What are the arguments for God as Creator of Man?
My favorite is the "teleological argument"...
"The Great Designer God"...DESIGN infers a DESIGNER!
"DESIGN" = my definition! =
the scientifically observed universe in all complex life forms shows empirical evidence of ORDER (vs randomness) and PATTERNS, (vs chaos).
Romans 1...Believers see God in Creation
20 For since the creation of the world
His invisible attributes,
His eternal power and
(His) divine nature,
have been clearly SEEN,
being understood through what has been MADE,
so that they (unbelievers) are without excuse. (in denying God)
Is God necessary for our existence?
aka
Must God exist for Man to Exist?
aka
What are the arguments for God as Creator of Man?
My favorite is the "teleological argument"...
"The Great Designer God"...DESIGN infers a DESIGNER!
"DESIGN" = my definition! =
the scientifically observed universe in all complex life forms shows empirical evidence of ORDER (vs randomness) and PATTERNS, (vs chaos).
Romans 1...Believers see God in Creation
20 For since the creation of the world
His invisible attributes,
His eternal power and
(His) divine nature,
have been clearly SEEN,
being understood through what has been MADE,
so that they (unbelievers) are without excuse. (in denying God)
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CAUSE
Causality (also referred to as causation, or cause and effect) is the agency or efficacy that connects one process (the cause=GOD) with another process or state (the effect=ALL CREATION), where >1.the first is understood to be partly responsible for the second, and >2. the second is dependent on the first.
Causality - Wikipedia
Psalm 35:23
Stir up Yourself, and awake to my right And to my cause, my God and my Lord.
Romans 8:28
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Causality (also referred to as causation, or cause and effect) is the agency or efficacy that connects one process (the cause=GOD) with another process or state (the effect=ALL CREATION), where >1.the first is understood to be partly responsible for the second, and >2. the second is dependent on the first.
Causality - Wikipedia
Psalm 35:23
Stir up Yourself, and awake to my right And to my cause, my God and my Lord.
Romans 8:28
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
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Ron Greetings,
I have been away from the forum for a long time and was notified of you post, which is excellent.
This may not be relevant to nature, but are you aware that the CBM mapping has placed the Earth as the center of the Universe? They having been trying to disprove their own evidence since it has been recognized. Lawrence Krauss, the fellow that fought against "Intelligent Design" in the Ohio school system, made this statement a number of years ago.
Lawrence Krauss is quoted as follows in the referenced Edge.org article:[4]
"But when you look at CMB map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That's crazy. We're looking out at the whole universe. There's no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun — the plane of the earth around the sun — the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe."
If earth is the center of the Universe, then man truly is special.
In faith, Terry
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