One Hour

Handmaid for Jesus said:

According to Rev. 17:12 the ten kings will be given power as kings for one hour. Has this occurred and how is this one hour time period calculated in your opinion.

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I see that 'brief hour', [REBible] as an allegory for just a short time. Maybe just a few months. The Anti-Christ leader of the One World Govt, will quickly take over as dictator.
The formula for God's timing: 1 day in Heaven = 1000 earth years doesn't pply in this case, as heaven isn't mentioned. Whereas heaven is stated in Revelation 8:1, for the Seventh Seal time gap, that will be 'about 20 years'.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

According to Rev. 17:12 the ten kings will be given power as kings for one hour. Has this occurred and how is this one hour time period calculated in your opinion.

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The Book of Revelation is full of symbolic language.

We know the two witnesses are not men made of wood and metal.

Rev 11:4　 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth.　

Insisting on a literal interpretation may not be correct in this case.

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Handmaid for Jesus said:

So brother, do you think this has ever happened? Is it past or yet future?

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Of course all these things have not happened yet.
We await the great reset of civilization, a similar disaster as what happened in Noah's time. Matthew 24:37-39 refers to the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath, when He comes in fire, Isaiah 66:15-16, 2 Peter 3:7 & 12 Look forward to the Day and hasten it on, for that Day will set the heavens ablaze .....and the godless will be destroyed.
But we Christians have God's many promises of protection, Isaiah 43:2, and whet we look forward to then, is the fulfilment of our destiny, as the Lord's holy people in His holy Land. Isaiah 35:1-10, Isaiah 62:1-5, Romans 9:24-26.....in the very place; our heritage. Ephesians 1:11

It's all in the book of Esther where Hamans 10 sons join with him to destroy the jews , also take note of the existing empire ruled by xerxes. This is seen again in revelation , feet of a bear =Iran , mouth of a lion =Iraq , body "LIKE" a leopard =Greek empire.
So lets take a look at the greek empire and check out what nations might be the ones involved.
Interesting to note that Saudi Arabia is not involved. One would think that the very home of their religion which steers guides and controls all these people the great city Mecca would be one of the ten , but no not according the map and not according the bible either.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

Thanks, but who do you think the ten kings might be?

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They will be prominent men or women, either elected or appointed to govern one of the ten world regions, each. Google 'ten world regions', to see how the world has already been divided into those regions. But as Daniel and Rev both say, it won't be long before another strong leader rises up and takes over the whole One World Govt. So whoever those 10 leaders are, their power doesn't last very long!
But, I'll say it again: We Christians will not belong to any of those regions, we will be our own nation in all of the holy Land area. Isaiah 62:1-5, Isaiah 66:7-14 +
That is why the Anti-Christ leader of the OWG comes to Beulah and negotiates a 7 year treaty of peace with them. Soon after the wipeout of the Gog/Magog attack.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

According to Rev. 17:12 the ten kings will be given power as kings for one hour. Has this occurred and how is this one hour time period calculated in your opinion.

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Given power as
Kings for one hour

Has a nice ring to it.

Hi HMFJ

This ones a tough one for me to figure out because there's so much competing doctrine involved. And it can be a bit spooky piecing the story together from Daniel 11, Revelation 13, 16 and 17. The true identity of the Antichrist, the correct duration for the appointed time of the end and where the 7th trumpet sits within this timeline are key to knowing where the hour will be. And it's of the utmost importance to properly distinguish between the "Beast" (8th king) that goes to destruction and the first "beast" that the ten kings hand over their authority to and are a part of. The ten kings don't give their power over to the "Beast" that rises from the abyss. They give their power to the first "beast" that rises from the sea in order to attack Lucifer's Harlot when they see that the Antichrist is NOT God. That's when their One Hour of Power begins, right after Lucifer's 42 months comes to an end.

God is going to use these guys as tools to dismantle the Antichrist's Harlot and burn her with fire, so the ten kings won't be given their royal authority prior to the Antichrist's 42 months being completed. It can't be a literal prophetic time period because it must be longer than 60 literal minutes. It's like when Winston Churchill said: "this is our finest hour'. But it can't last longer than 75 days, probably closer to a month or 45/49 days. The ten kings will turn against the Antichrist when they see that he can't stop the vial judgements and learn that he is NOT God.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

So brother, do you think this has ever happened? Is it past or yet future?

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Future. We get to meet them before their "hour" begins right around the time that the second Beast causes fire to fall from Heaven in the presence of men. When the Man of Sin rises from the abyss and is revealed, he will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will DIVIDE the land at a price. The first trumpet destroys a third of the earth. This is not a random meteor strike, this comes from God. All the Capitol Cities from around the world who passed the transgressive laws will probably be gone. With the governments of the world taken out of the picture, the ten kingdoms will fill that void instantly.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

Thanks, but who do you think the ten kings might be?

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They will be the hand picked leaders of a short lived world, because in the days of these kings the Real King is going to set up a Kingdom and it will stand forever. Lucifer is going to use these ten kings to honor a god of forces, a foreign god of coercion. This will be during a time of emergency like the world has never seen before. The Antichrist will seize this emergency to persuade all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth to worship a strange god, a new religion that the Bible calls the Harlot, through the use of force and threats. These ten kings will be Lucifer's Dictators and will use force, harassment, intimidation, threats and every arm twisting method available to cause people to honor this foreign god.

The "One Hour" of their royal authority comes after the 7th trumpet and after the Antichrist's 42 months of Revelation 13. They watch in great fear as we go into the air. They can see something is not right, all of the tribes remaining on the earth will mourn. This is where the ten king's finest "hour" will begin. They realize that the individual who had been claiming to be God is powerless to stop all the pain and destruction caused by the 7 vials. And we watch from the air while the kingdom of the Beast is in agony from the painful sores that the Antichrist can do nothing about. The Man of Sin's authority has ended so his ten kings will realize they've been deceived and turn on him. I don't think that the Man of Sin will make too many public appearances after this, his time is up.

As the "One Hour" nears it's finale, Lucifer sends his three best demonic angels to meet with the ten kings. Notice that he doesn't go in person, he sends his agents. What a scene for a fly on the wall that will be. Three of Lucifer's best demons will sit down with the rulers of the divided world all covered in boils and tell them that the person that they believed to be God is actually Lucifer himself. And if that's not enough they are told that the Real God is coming to kill them all with a sharp sword. The only thing remaining for them to do now is to gather for battle on the great day of God the Almighty.

When Lucifer's 42 months are ended he can't order the ten kings around anymore, he has to convince them that with their technology combined with demonic power that it could be possible to defeat the Creator, before the Creator destroys them. It's their last chance. They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with him are called and chosen and faithful.”

And the White Horse Rider turns to us as we are in the air with Him and says:


Here's a popular representation of what the ten kingdoms might look like:



The land divided for a price, the cost being the sudden destruction of our current regime.

For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.

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Dave Watchman said:

Here's a popular representation of what the ten kingdoms might look like:

The land divided for a price, the cost being the sudden destruction of our current regime.

For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.

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Doesn't the bible say that the ten will come out of the 4th empire , the Roman empire. So why do you have the entire globe in perspective here when the bible says other wise?.............Please try not to right a novel I do know the scriptures.

Brian45 said:

Doesn't the bible say that the ten will come out of the 4th empire , the Roman empire.

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Not exactly. Not about the ten horns that have power for one hour. You're talking about Daniel 7. It says that the terrifying fourth beast with large iron teeth had ten horns. And then a little horn with eyes like a man will pluck up 3 of the original horns. By the roots. But that's Daniel 7 and it's talking about a ten horn team that is part of history and looks more like this:

Brian45 said:

So why do you have the entire globe in perspective here when the bible says other wise?.............

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The Otrogoths, the Heruli and the Vandals were the three that were "plucked up by the roots".

The ten kings from Revelation are different than these from Daniel 7, there are two sets of ten kings.

Our end time ten, who will have power for one hour, are not going to have 3 of them pulled out by the roots". All of the Ten from Revelation's narrative are going to be here to meet the White Horse Rider.

Brian45 said:

Please try not to right a novel I do know the scriptures.

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I don't. I haven't had the time to memorize them.

I didn't start out with the intention of writing a book, sorry about that. And I know that it's a bummer to hear someone say that the end times will be global. So many want to think that it's only going to hit in the middle east.


There's that "HOUR" again. I think this one is only going to be 371 days, but how ever long it is, it's coming on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

And the word "from" is translated from the Greek ἐκ and can also mean He will keep us DURING the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.

ἐκ

1. 
   
   
   • (of place)
     1. (of motion) Out of, from
     2. from, with the source of
     3. to denote change from one place or condition to another
     4. to express separation of distinction from a number
     5. (of position) outside, beyond
   • (of time)
     1. from, since
     2. (of particular points of time) just, after
     3. during, in
   • (of origin)
     1. (of materials) made out of something
     2. (of descent, parentage) descended from
     3. (of causation) done by someone, something
     4. of the cause, instrument, or means by which a thing is done
     5. from, according to
     6. turns a following noun into a periphrastic adverb
     7. (with numerals) in such an order

Handmaid for Jesus said:

Thanks for your rather exhaustive outlook on the subject.

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I didn't plan on making it that exhausting. I think someone else said something too about writing a novel. It's just that something HAS to cause the ten kings to get going. Something big has to be the catalyst. It's the dragon himself that gives them their power and their throne and great authority. But he doesn't appear yet in person until the second Beast rises from the earth and the abyss opens up.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

It is my hope that Christians will not be here during that time.

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We won't. We will be in the air no matter what before the ten kings have their "One Hour" of royal authority. Because even if the dragon is using them as puppets from behind the scenes, their short time of authority won't start until after the 7th trumpet.

And we are outta here by then.

Dave Watchman said:

We won't. We will be in the air no matter what before the ten kings have their "One Hour" of royal authority. Because even if the dragon is using them as puppets from behind the scenes, their short time of authority won't start until after the 7th trumpet.

And we are outta here by then.

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You're dreaming! The Prophetic Word says no such thing. As you point out; these things will come upon the whole world.
The meeting with Jesus in the air, plainly happens at His Return.

But God does promise to look after His own and we see in Rev 12, that a large group of the faithful ones, will be placed in safety on earth; during the worst time.

The One World Govt will be established soon after the Sixth Seal worldwide devastation. I would consider that the 10 Governors initially appointed, or elected, would rule for at least a year, but we will see about that and we know that before long another man will take them all over.

keras said:

You're dreaming! The Prophetic Word says no such thing. As you point out; these things will come upon the whole world.
The meeting with Jesus in the air, plainly happens at His Return.

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I think that I already know that you don't like the rapture in the air deal Keras.
And I'm not intending to cause you irritation over it right now. But for those who can recognize that "His Return" is at the 7th trumpet, it's an easy extrapolation to see that the vials come next and remember that WE are not appointed to wrath.

The trumpets are not destructive wrath, they are mixed with mercy, mixed with blood. Only a "third" is destroyed, two thirds are spared. Like when the great city is split into "thirds", all three thirds are destroyed. Total destruction. We are not going to be around here for that, I'll bet you any money.

If we have kept His Word about patient endurance, it would be easy for Him to keep us during the hour of trial when the trumpets fall. But the vials are a different deal.

keras said:

But God does promise to look after His own and we see in Rev 12, that a large group of the faithful ones, will be placed in safety on earth; during the worst time.

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Sorry keras. There were TWO groups in the wilderness, Two Wings of the Great Eagle. God's people, were given the Two Wings so that she could escape from the dragon to the place prepared for her. Like a solid rocket booster on the space shuttle Discovery, wing # 1 was used up during the 1260 years of papal persecution from 538 to 1798. Wing # 2 is still burning it's propellant pending the beast's 42 months of end time authority. The Dragons having an intermission, preparing to make war on the offspring.

keras said:

The One World Govt will be established soon after the Sixth Seal worldwide devastation. I would consider that the 10 Governors initially appointed, or elected, would rule for at least a year, but we will see about that and we know that before long another man will take them all over.

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What you have here looks reversed. The 6th Seal is the END of the tribulation, not the beginning. The 6th Seal IS the rapture. The 6th Seal is the "darkened" sun immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days. This is different from Joel's sun turned into complete darkness "before".

I remember a couple of years ago I was watching a video by Dave Pack where He said that the "Day of the Lord" would be the last "year" of the tribulation. He got that from Isaiah 34 a "year" of recompense. I didn't think that he was right but now I've changed my mind.

Then another guy notices also Satan is cast down and has only a short "time". As in time, times and half a time where the "time" = a year.

Satan is cast down and has only a short "year"?

The Lord might actually come back here and roll this whole place up like a scroll in the same space of time that Noah was in the Ark, 371 days. Just like in the days of Noah. I can find that time marked out so it seemed like a bit of a coincidence. Wouldn't it be a surprise if we were already almost 2/3's of the ways through the 42 months of Revelation 13 and nobody knew it yet?

Know what I mean Jelly Bean?

Dave Watchman said:

I think that I already know that you don't like the rapture in the air deal Keras.

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I am very happy with meeting Jesus in the atmosphere.
What I refute is going to heaven then, or at any time. Those who remain, which means all the living survivors of the Great Trib, God's holy people that are all on earth during the GT, as we see in Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7, will be transported the where Jesus is and will remain with Him for the Millennium, in Jerusalem.

I do not give any credence to David Pack or 'jelly bean' interpretation of prophecy.
You cannot unroll a scroll until the Seals are removed. Plus; to shuffle Revelation is a very bad idea.