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I haven't been to church since Easter and I feel so much better.

I feel better because I'm not facing the experience of being a total outsider in my church of two years anymore. The priest and the people were not quite welcoming. But I feel worse because my faith is suffering.

I approached my search for a church intellectually, choosing a church I felt taught the correct things. I wanted it to be about Truth and all these other things... I now see it's the same idealistic bent that led me down other dead end roads in my life, leading me to ignore practical reality. I jumped right in, in love with my ideas, despite a lot of signs I shouldn't. I am absolutely humbled by this experience, and how it seems I continue to repeat this head-in-the-clouds pattern (which I think is prideful in its own way).

I am going to pray that I might find where God wants me, and that I might have the strength to go, regardless. I really don't think I can go back to the church I was a part of anymore. Without bashing my church and priest and the people, I will say that I don't want it to be this way, but this is the way it is.


So. Christian advice? Anyone ever had to leave a church? How about a big, old, traditional church? (I'm leaving a bit out because I don't want any Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant basing. One thing I'm certain of is that Christ isn't found exclusively in any one of these places and that correct doctrine won't get you into heaven--in fact, it comes with its own risks like arrogance and pride.)
 

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So. Christian advice? Anyone ever had to leave a church? How about a big, old, traditional church? (I'm leaving a bit out because I don't want any Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant basing. One thing I'm certain of is that Christ isn't found exclusively in any one of these places and that correct doctrine won't get you into heaven--in fact, it comes with its own risks like arrogance and pride.)
I have never had to leave a church as I have only recently joined a church. However, I have had to cut associations with some people for religious reasons. It is similar I would imagine. Though I disagree that "correct doctrine won't get you into heaven." Correct doctrine comes from the guidance of the Spirit. You are right in that someone who comes to correct doctrine without the grace of God will most certainly not be saved.
 
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I haven't been to church since Easter and I feel so much better.

I feel better because I'm not facing the experience of being a total outsider in my church of two years anymore. The priest and the people were not quite welcoming. But I feel worse because my faith is suffering.

I approached my search for a church intellectually, choosing a church I felt taught the correct things. I wanted it to be about Truth and all these other things... I now see it's the same idealistic bent that led me down other dead end roads in my life, leading me to ignore practical reality. I jumped right in, in love with my ideas, despite a lot of signs I shouldn't. I am absolutely humbled by this experience, and how it seems I continue to repeat this head-in-the-clouds pattern (which I think is prideful in its own way).

I am going to pray that I might find where God wants me, and that I might have the strength to go, regardless. I really don't think I can go back to the church I was a part of anymore. Without bashing my church and priest and the people, I will say that I don't want it to be this way, but this is the way it is.


So. Christian advice? Anyone ever had to leave a church? How about a big, old, traditional church? (I'm leaving a bit out because I don't want any Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant basing. One thing I'm certain of is that Christ isn't found exclusively in any one of these places and that correct doctrine won't get you into heaven--in fact, it comes with its own risks like arrogance and pride.)

The Bible is all the teacher you need. Regular reading both to immerse yourself in the Word for study and to just read to enjoy being in His presence and consistent study together with prayer and fasting will keep you in good stead.
A local church community isn't the be all and end all. I feel there is too much pressure placed on denomination shopping it is supposed to be a refuge when you need comfort and friends as much as anything.
God has given you some time to be alone with Him make that your priority for now and then I am sure God will add unto the comfort of community you seek in time.
 
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One thing I'm certain of is that Christ isn't found exclusively in any one of these places and that correct doctrine won't get you into heaven--in fact, it comes with its own risks like arrogance and pride.)
You are right that Christ is not found exclusively in one denomination, but you are wrong about correct doctrine not being necessary for going to heaven. Not that knowledge in itself gets you there, but rather, knowledge of how to get there. The Bible has lots to say about sound doctrine.
 
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IT sure does least
as pual himself once wrote to timothy
you have KNOWN the holy scrips which are able to make you WISE unto salvation through faith in Christ.
and now a word.
MY people perish from lack of knowledge. I love the bible. its the most beautiful book I ever read.
and I just love the truth . its like honey to the soul, like meat to the soul.
 
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I should have said correct doctrine alone. It does lead to arrogance. People can be unloving, judgemental, and cold and have correct doctrine. 1 Corinthians 13:2

I said it because it's true. I don't think simply affirming the truth is going to get you to heaven.
 
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I should have said correct doctrine alone. It does lead to arrogance. People can be unloving, judgemental, and cold and have correct doctrine. 1 Corinthians 13:2

I said it because it's true. I don't think simply affirming the truth is going to get you to heaven.
someone needs to pet that kitten.
 
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@sparkle123 I'm sorry to hear about your experience lately! You will be in my prayers. I haven't experienced the same thing myself when I changed to my current church. (I left my old church because I disagreed with a lot of their theology). Would you be willing to try another parish or jurisdiction?
 
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@sparkle123 I'm sorry to hear about your experience lately! You will be in my prayers. I haven't experienced the same thing myself when I changed to my current church. Would you be willing to try another parish or jurisdiction?

Thank you. I am considering an OCA church I went to last month for a liturgy and talk. Have you done this? I appreciate your prayers
 
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I can most certainly understand why one might want to leave a church.

I am going to pray that I might find where God wants me, and that I might have the strength to go, regardless. I really don't think I can go back to the church I was a part of anymore. Without bashing my church and priest and the people, I will say that I don't want it to be this way, but this is the way it is.

Why do that, why not just relax and do some serious searching for the right church. That is unless you are reasonably certain the problem is you, but don't be so fast to blame yourself.

On the other hand if no church seems right, maybe it is you, but still, maybe not. Look for a church that is biblical, and if that won't do, take a closer look at those that are, but just rub you the wrong way.

I don't have a Church at all and don't feel myself slipping away because of it, but that's not to say it can't happen I suppose, just that is doesn't necessarily mean it will.
 
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Thank you. I am considering an OCA church I went to last month for a liturgy and talk. Have you done this? I appreciate your prayers
I'm a member of an OCA church. I love it there. My church family is just that - a true family who supported me so much through a lot of problems I dealt with (not to mention dealing difficulties of changing from my family's denomination of generations to something totally different - to put it mildly, very non-liturgical to highly liturgical).

I highly recommend checking out the OCA church some more. Of course, not all churches are the same, but I've found our parish to be humble and a true family.

I will pray that you also find a home like that!
 
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I realize I'm quite late to this conversation - but as someone who can relate to the 'jumping in' and the 'dead end' to follow, I just wanted to offer my thoughts and prayers. I have been attending a small AOC Mission since just before Pascha . I really love it. It is small, but vibrant and so full of life. I'm not sure how it would be for me if the community itself was not as wonderful as it is - but I find that when I step through the narthex into the Church that has been built into a back room behind the Lutheran church, I feel transported through time and space. It is exactly what I need each week. I hope you find what you need and the path that you are meant to journey on.
 
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The church is simply a building. Its not a place that you must go to and stay at forever. I mean its always great to find a "home" church that you enjoy and never leave. But in todays world its not easy. We've gone through many churches in my life. Now we are back at a church we went to long ago and think this may be our home church.

You may find a new church to be refreshing. Just got to decide on where to start. Like what denomination? What are the rules of said church? Do you feel compatible with it and so on.
 
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