If you commit sin are you still of God? Yes or no

cgaviria · May 1, 2017

DrBubbaLove said:
So how is following Jesus example being rude when someone offers an answer to a direct question of how to change a faith declaration at CF now that they took that ability away from us?

Where is the rudeness of Jesus when someone was offering to help Him covered in your "research"?

My statement offended you? That is not my fault you chose to become offended.

stuart lawrence · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
There is no number, "abound". As many times as the opportunities present themselves to do good. For it is even said, "if you know to do good, and do not do it, it is sin unto you".

So you don't know if you have done enough good works to entitle you to enter heaven do you.
May I suggest, in the circumstances, you leave internet debating websites and spend the time Instead doing good works, in order to better secure your hope of heaven

cgaviria · May 1, 2017

stuart lawrence said:
So you don't know if you have done enough good works to entitke you to enter heaven do you.
Nay I suggest, you leave internet debating websites and spend the time I stead doing good works, in order to better secure your hope of heaven

Or perhaps you should stop making a mockery out of doing good works, and agree that it is necessary to do good works after having believed.

stuart lawrence · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
Or perhaps you should stop making a mockery out of doing good works, and agree that it is necessary to do good works after having believed.

I made a valid point. Take heed of it

DrBubbaLove · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
My statement offended you? That is not my fault you chose to become offended.

Not offended. Just pointing out the irony of someone that thinks so much of themselves and their "following" of Jesus would behave that way when someone else offers a solution for how CF allows us to change our faith declarations now. The change may have happened during of the times you were banned.

1stcenturylady · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
Are you not aware that God kills and gives life? God opens the womb and closes the womb? God makes the mute, the deaf, and the blind? If he wanted a baby to grow to bear fruit, then it would be so, but if he didn't want to, then the baby will indeed perish. It is God who determines all of these things to occur by his own will. Who are you to question God if so chooses to take life if he is the one who gave it? He is in his own authority to do so. Fear him.

In general that is good advice. However, as the Bible is silent on still-born babies, to say nothing of aborted babies, we should let God be God and decide for Himself. None of us should tell Him what to do or not do.

cgaviria · May 1, 2017

1stcenturylady said:
In general that is good advice. However, as the Bible is silent on still-born babies, to say nothing of aborted babies, we should let God be God and decide for Himself. None of us should tell Him what to do or not do.

Not quite so, and I already explained how, because the final resurrection is based on works. You cannot judge an unborn baby on works the baby has done, because a baby has no works. As such, a baby perishes.

stuart lawrence · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
Not quite so, and I already explained how, because the final resurrection is based on works. You cannot judge an unborn baby on works the baby has done, because a baby has no works. As such, a baby perishes.

In my bible righteousnes is credited apart from works

cgaviria · May 1, 2017

DrBubbaLove said:
Not offended. Just pointing out the irony of someone that thinks so much of themselves and their "following" of Jesus would behave that way when someone else offers a solution for how CF allows us to change our faith declarations now. The change may have happened during of the times you were banned.

I'm sure anything I've said just now is much less than what Jesus Christ said when he called the Pharisees snakes and brood of vipers. I'm sure they would've thought that was quite "rude" indeed. Relax.

1stcenturylady · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
Not quite so, and I already explained how, because the final resurrection is based on works. You cannot judge an unborn baby on works the baby has done, because a baby has no works. As such, a baby perishes.

I'm not going to get into a foolish argument over something no one has a clue about. There are always exceptions. It is appointed to man, once to die and then comes the judgment. What about Enoch and Elijah, and those who are alive and remain at the return of Christ. In order to do good works, or bad works for that matter, you would have to be accountable, which a baby is not.

DrBubbaLove · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
Not quite so, and I already explained how, because the final resurrection is based on works. You cannot judge an unborn baby on works the baby has done, because a baby has no works. As such, a baby perishes.

God said "we" and I assume He meant "you" cannot judge anyone. He, on the other hand can and will.

DrBubbaLove · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
I'm sure anything I've said just now is much less than what Jesus Christ said when he called the Pharisees snakes and brood of vipers. I'm sure they would've thought that was quite "rude" indeed. Relax.

You tripping on something and apparently triggered to reply as if everything I say is an insult. Not the one that needs to relax here.
You indicated you did not know how to change your faith declaration and would if you did. Knowing you have been "gone" a while, I correctly replied " you have to ask now" which is how it gets changed at CF now. My bad I guess for assuming a well educated man wanted my help.

Radrook · May 1, 2017

Sinning involuntarily is unavoidable. Sinning voluntarily is within our control. If we choose to sin voluntarily without any effort at trying to control our tendencies and without feeling any remorse, then we are grieving God's holy spirit. Which means that God will be displeased with our disrespectful attitude and might very well rightfully conclude that we are using our free will to reject the Ransom Sacrifice which makes salvation possible.

Deuteronomy 30:19 ►
New International Version
This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.

Jeremiah 21:8
"You shall also say to this people, 'Thus says the LORD, "Behold, I set before you the way of life and the way of death.

LoveofTruth · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
No, because "whoever sins has neither seen or or known him" and "whoever is born of God cannot sin, it is impossible". Being born of God means to be baptized with the holy spirit, for when the spirit of God enters the body, he causes a sanctification that immediately "circumcises your heart", which is to rid you of your sinful nature you were conceived in that caused you to sin in the first place, in which case, you literally become "freed of sin", hence why it becomes impossible to ever sin again, only if you actually received the holy spirit of course. Only 144,000 are chosen to be sealed with the holy spirit. I have a study on the baptism of the holy spirit here Repentance and Sin No More, Perfection and Born of the Spirit | Wisdom of God and on the 144,000 here The True Identity of the 144,000 of the Book of Revelation | Wisdom of God .

The 144,000 are distinct from gentile believers who are filled with the Holy Chist.

and also

a s question.

Is Jesus Christy in you?

Yes or no

just a simple question with a yes or no.

LoveofTruth · May 1, 2017

NJM24 said:
Yes. I am a child of God. Jesus died in order for that to happen. If I mess up I am still His child just as my son/daughter would still be mine if they did something wrong.

Read 1 John 3:8 KJV

LoveofTruth · May 1, 2017

cgaviria said:
No, because "whoever sins has neither seen or or known him" and "whoever is born of God cannot sin, it is impossible". Being born of God means to be baptized with the holy spirit, for when the spirit of God enters the body, he causes a sanctification that immediately "circumcises your heart", which is to rid you of your sinful nature you were conceived in that caused you to sin in the first place, in which case, you literally become "freed of sin", hence why it becomes impossible to ever sin again, only if you actually received the holy spirit of course. Only 144,000 are chosen to be sealed with the holy spirit. I have a study on the baptism of the holy spirit here Repentance and Sin No More, Perfection and Born of the Spirit | Wisdom of God and on the 144,000 here The True Identity of the 144,000 of the Book of Revelation | Wisdom of God .

Do you believe you are one of the 144,000?

NJM24 · May 1, 2017

LoveofTruth said:
Read 1 John 3:8 KJV

We are human and cannot live perfectly therefore we will sin. The above verse is referring to continuous intentional sin. I'm assuming if we are one with God we are not trying to purposely continue to sin.

LoveofTruth · May 1, 2017

NJM24 said:
We are human and cannot live perfectly therefore we will sin. The above verse is referring to continuous intentional sin. I'm assuming if we are one with God we are not trying to purposely continue to sin.

No the word is "Poieo" not the word "parsso" in Greek

The word "committeth" in 1 John 3:8 is "poieo"(4160), The word "commit' in Romans 1:32 is "prasso". It even says in the Greek when defining the word "Prasso" as used in Romans 1:32, that it thus differs from 4160 "poieo" as used in 1 John 3:8.

In the Greek concordance we read about the word prasso (as used in Romans 1:32)

"thus differing from 4160, which properly refers to a single act" (Strongs)

LoveofTruth · May 1, 2017

NJM24 said:
We are human and cannot live perfectly therefore we will sin. The above verse is referring to continuous intentional sin. I'm assuming if we are one with God we are not trying to purposely continue to sin.

we can do nothing in our old human flesh. But in Christ we can do all things. In him is not sin and IF we abide ( remain, dwell, and continue) in him we sin not. he will forgive us our sins AND cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. Some simply have jesus forgiving their sins in a one time act and are content to live like the devil and say they are once saved always saved by a one time act of faith. But God also cleanest us from all unrighteousness. this work is inward as God works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure and to make us perfect unto every good work.

1stcenturylady · May 1, 2017

Radrook said:
Sinning involuntarily is unavoidable. Sinning voluntarily is within our control. If we choose to sin voluntarily without any effort at trying to control our tendencies and without feeling any remorse, then we are grieving God's holy spirit. Which means that God will be displeased with our disrespectful attitude and might very well rightfully conclude that we are using our free will to reject the Ransom Sacrifice which makes salvation possible.

I agree. Romans 6 says those in Christ have died to sin, so why live any longer in it if it has no power over us. People ask how? By His gift of the Holy Spirit, of course. Zechariah 4:5-7
“This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel:
‘Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’
Says the Lord of hosts.
7 ‘Who are you, O great mountain?
Before Zerubbabel you shall become a plain!
And he shall bring forth the capstone (Jesus)
With shouts of “Grace, grace to it!”’”

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