Rebaptized?

ByTheSpirit said:

It would be very easy discussing such a topic to misunderstand a persons intent when posting. I did not find reason to be upset concerning your first posting, but did myself not read any humor into your words. Perhaps some indication to show you are making light of a situation would be beneficial so all could read that into your words

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He feels I misunderstood him...I think he misunderstood me.
I don't feel I'm on a pedestal.
I just enjoy discussing doctrine. It's not a thing of pride at all.
I'm sorry it offends.

ByTheSpirit said:

It would be very easy discussing such a topic to misunderstand a persons intent when posting. I did not find reason to be upset concerning your first posting, but did myself not read any humor into your words. Perhaps some indication to show you are making light of a situation would be beneficial so all could read that into your words

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Yes I keep forgetting....."accept one becomes like serious old men, he can in no wise enter into the kingdom. This is the doom and gloom side of the forum. Wait.....before i get another long sermon from Polly, I do know that the verse doesn't actually read that way......Yes I know what it says and means. No I dont believe we have to be serous old people to enter the kingdom.

I need to go to the young cheerful side of the forum.......There will be sections in heaven you know. one side will have the slow walking, hymn singing, occasional "Hallelujah!" screaming people on it....and the other will have the pools with the diving boards i told you about, running, playing, horse riding, praise dancing people. I'll be on that side

John baptized with water. Some who were going to John to be baptized were not repentant. John warned those coming to be baptized to repent (Matthew 3:8). Jesus was coming to baptize with the Holy Spirit (John 1:29-33). If you have been baptized with water, the next step would be to invite the Holy Spirit to guide you. No amount of water can wash away the sins of a reprobate mind.


http://www.biblestudytools.com/passage/?q=john+1:29-33

ByTheSpirit said:

wow, even when we express that we didnt quite comprehend your post you get defensive. Perhaps we were not the ones needing to come off a pedestal...

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Wow, even when I point out the humor, you still don't get it. You we definitely be on the slow walking side.

P.s I don't get offended and I take nothing personal. The only thing I find remotely offensive, is the fact that you feel I could be offended by reading words.

I agree with @Albion on this.

The one caveat from my perspective (and the Orthodox Christian perspective) would be if one was baptized in a non-trinitarian church or was baptized in some unorthodox church (small o) where they didn't follow Scriptural instructions...such as a church that doesn't believe in the full divinity / full humanity of Christ, etc.

ETA: After rereading your post, it looks like you already addressed this

Albion said:

it would be an error if anyone suggested that your first baptism was invalid (based upon what you told us).

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Yes. I agree. Trinitarian baptism is valid for life.

It's even an error to be re-baptized to get a "fresh start". Repentance is what is required after sin, not re-baptisim.

If baptism were required after sin, I would look like a prune.

*I do not tow the Reformed line completely on this issue because as a Protestant who was born into the Roman Catholic Church and baptized as an infant, I don't take issue with an adult convert being baptized (after being baptized as an infant). I don't think that a church can or should demand this, but I think that if the adult convert wishes to be baptized, his wishes should be honored.

I had an experience once, 20 or so years ago, where I heard God say get baptized. I had been baptized back in 1979. Well, I promptly obeyed, afterwards, I was sitting in my car and heard God say, I didn't mean that. My first thought was, I got all wet for nothing.

Those words though, was the begining of change in how I see things.

Aseyesee said:

I had an experience once, 20 or so years ago, where I heard God say get baptized. I had been baptized back in 1979. Well, I promptly obeyed, afterwards, I was sitting in my car and heard God say, I didn't mean that. My first thought was, I got all wet for nothing.

Those words though, was the begining of change in how I see things.

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God speaks to you?

jimmyjimmy said:

God speaks to you?

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You can't hear him? I guess that to is similar to Philips question, show us the father; if you can't hear him, your trying to hard.

Aseyesee said:

You can't hear him? I guess that to is similar to Philips question, show us the father; if you can't hear him, your trying to hard.

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I'm not the one getting baptized because I hear voices, only to be told it was unnecessary. I think my effort is just about right.

I know two things: Over recorded history, God has spoken audibly to very few people - a handful out of billions. I also know that He does not ever contradict Himself.

jimmyjimmy said:

I'm not the one getting baptized because I hear voices, only to be told it was unnecessary. I think my effort is just about right.

I know two things: Over recorded history, God has spoken audibly to very few people - a handful out of billions. I also know that He does not ever contradict Himself.

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Jesus referred to those taught of God, and where every one those taught of him come to; no matter, your still the judge.

Actually, he didn't contradict himself, I misunderstood what he meant.

Aseyesee said:

Jesus referred to those taught of God, and where every one those taught of him come to; no matter, your still the judge.

Actually, he didn't contradict himself, I misunderstood what he meant.

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You misunderstood God? Is He not a very good communicator?

jimmyjimmy said:

You misunderstood God? Is He not a very good communicator?

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You think his disciples understood everything he said to them, written evidence is to the contrary.

Do you believe Jesus was wrong about those taught of God? Yes, or no?

Aseyesee said:

You think his disciples understood everything he said to them, written evidence is to the contrary.

Do you believe Jesus was wrong about those taught of God? Yes, or no?

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I think that Jesus spoke to His disciples, yes.

jimmyjimmy said:

I think that Jesus spoke to His disciples, yes.

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Did they undetstand everything or not?

Did they understand God, or not?

I adhere to the Nicene Creed which has outlined the Christian faith since 325 AD:


I once considered joining a church that may have required my re-baptism. It was a stopper for me. I value my Baptism. I hold it as irreplaceable.

"One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism" --Ephesians 4:5