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You overlook prophetic perspective, which is common throughout scripture. Prophetic perspective appears in a number of ways. One is seeing 2 distant events in a single picture (one example - Isaiah 61:1,2a directly followed by Isaiah 61:2b). The other is for one event to have multiple layers of fulfillment within history (with a final fulfillment). An example of this is the abomination of desolation from Daniel 11:31. This was 'fulfilled' historically by Antiochus IV Epiphanes in 167 BC. Matter settled right? Well, Christ ruined that by stating to his disciples almost 200 years later, watch out for the abomination of desolation of Daniel, as it is still ahead. And the fact is the Babylonians did a similar AoD prior to Antiochus (and before Daniel wrote 'Daniel') around 586 BC. So the Roman 'fulfillment' of the AoD in 70AD is just another historical fulfillment of the AoD. The ultimate AoD is still yet to come, and this is indirectly the basis of our hope in Christ returning for us.
2 Thes 2:1-12
"Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work [that's why you see Stalins, Hitlers, ISISs, and Kim Jong-uns]. Only he [it] who now restrains it [lawlessness] will do so until he [it] is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

If you look at verse 34 which we will call the "time-text" of Matthew 24: "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." This verse divides the chapter into two sections. What has gone before refers to the destruction of Jerusalem which did occur during the lifetime of the generation Jesus addressed. The section that follows refers to the Lord's second coming, the time for which is not indicated.

In verse 36 Jesus said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only." That day is an expression frequently used in the new testament to refer to the day of judgment (Matthew 7:22; 2 Timothy 4:8). This verse (v.36) marks the transition between an earlier section (4-35) in which Jesus had given several definite signs of the destruction of Jerusalem and a later section (36-51) referring to the end of the world, in which no signs were given. To better understand what is meant by transition refer back to the definition about distinguished. It also might help one to understand what a "transition" word is. The "but" in verse 36 is transitioning from one subject to another.

The expression "that day and hour" in verse 36 connects the pronouncement "heaven and earth shall pass away" in verse 35--that day and hour being when heaven and earth shall pass away, and is therefore related to the Lord's second coming. In 2 Peter 3:10 it is declared that "the day of the Lord will come... in which the heavens shall pass away... the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Thus the passing away of heaven and earth, mentioned in verse 35 of Matthew 24, shall be an event accompanying "the coming of the Son of man" in verses 36 and 37, and with these verses the Lord's discourse turns from the destruction of Jerusalem to the second coming of Christ.

Having clearly established the fact that the Lord discusses his second coming in Matthew 24, we can now call attention to the following ways in which the Lord distinguishes between the destruction of Jerusalem and his second coming. In Matthew 24:4-35 the Lord uses the plural "days" to describe the tribulation associated with the destruction of Jerusalem (see verses 19, 22, 29). In Jesus' reply to the question concerning the second coming (24:36-51 and 25:1-46) the singular "day" is used to refer to that event (24:36, 42, 44, 50 and 25:13).

In reply to the question concerning the destruction of Jerusalem, Jesus gave a rather specific sign. They ask the question "Tell us, when shall these things be?" In Matthew 24:15 Jesus said, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation... stand in the holy place..." In his parallel account, Luke identifies the "abomination" which Jesus foretold as the encompassing of Jerusalem by the Roman army: " And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh" (Luke 21:20). In Matthew 24:33 Jesus said, " So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the door." He went on to say in verse 34, "this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." (compare also Matthew 24:36).

In contrast to the specific sign Jesus gave to them concerning the destruction of Jerusalem (4-35), Jesus acknowledged his own lack of knowledge of the time of his second coming: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only."(24:36).

After describing the rather normal routine of life which would characterize the time prior to his second coming, in contrast to the turbulent time which would precede the destruction of Jerusalem, Jesus compared his second coming with the arrival of a "thief" (24:43-44). This comparison, which is also made in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 and 2 Peter 3:10, has no moral connotation (an idea or feeling that a word invokes in addition to its literal or primary meaning.) but rather implies that as a thief gives no advanced announcement of his visit, neither will Christ give a prior notice of his second coming.

It is also important to note, that in verses 15-34 of Matthew 24, describes the actual events of the destruction of Jerusalem. It is very obvious that verses 15-28 cannot be in reference to the end of the world as people taking flight/ running away would not matter in the least if such were the case. Matthew 24:20, "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter..." Why would Jesus give false hope of fleeing if this was talking about the end of the world?

You will clearly see that even secular history can support the evidence that the events in Matthew 24:4-35 have already come to pass. The "false messiahs" verses 4 and 5 already happened see Acts 5:33-37 and Josephus (secular writer) also mentions this in his books. Then to describe the verses 6-8 The predictions of "wars and rumors of wars" history is plum full of evidence of the turmoil Rome was faced with internally let alone externally especially from the period of Christ's death to the destruction of Jerusalem. Look it up. The predictions of "famine" take a look at Acts 11:28. Again already happened. The talk on "earthquakes" many of them. Look at secular history again one of the most famous of the earthquakes then was Pompeii Feb. 5th A.D. 66. The parts on christians being persecuted in verses 9-13 see to the bible Acts 4 and 5. Stephen was stoned to death Acts 6 and 7. Against the church Acts 8 and 9. James gets beheaded Acts 12. And Paul spoke of heavy persecution often see also 2 Timothy 1:15; 4:10, 16. False teachers Acts 20:29; Romans 16:17-18; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 John 4:1. Then look at verse 14 of Matthew 24 "gospel... preached in all the world...then the end will come" Now look at Colossians 1:6, 23.

Quick helpful reference chart Mat. 24

1. Key Text and The Context

a. "This generation shall not pass" v34 the "time-text" of the chapter

b. "but of that day and hour" v36 the "transition-text" of the chapter

c. The context: Culmination of prophecies and warnings

d. The disciples questions: 24:1-3

2. Signs of the Destruction of Jerusalem: 24:4-35

a. General Signs: 24:4-14

b. Specific Signs: 24:15-28

c. Apocalyptic Language: 24:29-33/ Similar language also used concerning:

i. The destruction of Babylon (Isaiah 13:10)

ii. The destruction of Edom (Isaiah 34:4-5)

iii. The destruction of Egypt (Ezekiel 32:7-8)

3. The End of the World: 24:36 through 25:46

a. Contrast between this (Mat.24:36-25:46) and the former section of Matthew 24 (Mat.24:4-35)

Jesus teaches the suddenness of the second coming (like a thief/ no signs, warnings, announcements).

Given the evidence of verses and secular writers such as Josephus, what did I overlook?
 
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That one I know - the month of Nissan, the first month of the Jewish calendar. He was crucified on Nissan 14, and his resurrection was on Nissan 16 or 17 depending on who you are asking. Now the harder question would be to align that to the past to Roman calendar with absolute certainty. However, it can be certain that it landed in either March or April depending on the Barley harvest and lunar cycle per instructions to Moses.

Sorry I forgot to say hello to you on my first post to you.
The post you made here is contradictory. You said you know "That one I know - the month of Nissan, the first month of the Jewish calendar."

however later you state this "However, it can be certain that it landed in either March or April depending on the Barley harvest and lunar cycle per instructions to Moses."

You are not certain by the sound of it and please do elaborate if I misunderstood.

Anyhow, the point of the matter really is that you should be celebrating this EVERY Sunday as it states in the bible that every first day of the week they would take the Lords supper in remembrance (Acts 20:7-12; 1 Corinthians 11:20-33; Matthew 26:26-28; Luke 22:19).

While at the same time days like Christmas holiday and Easter holiday have no command or precept and should not be forced on anyone Romans 14.
 
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however later you state this "However, it can be certain that it landed in either March or April depending on the Barley harvest and lunar cycle per instructions to Moses."
I'm certain that Christ was crucified in either March or April; I'm not certain if it was March or if it was April. I am certain that it was the month of Nissan.
 
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If you look at verse 34 which we will call the "time-text" of Matthew 24: "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." This verse divides the chapter into two sections. What has gone before refers to the destruction of Jerusalem which did occur during the lifetime of the generation Jesus addressed. The section that follows refers to the Lord's second coming, the time for which is not indicated.

In verse 36 Jesus said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only." That day is an expression frequently used in the new testament to refer to the day of judgment (Matthew 7:22; 2 Timothy 4:8). This verse (v.36) marks the transition between an earlier section (4-35) in which Jesus had given several definite signs of the destruction of Jerusalem and a later section (36-51) referring to the end of the world, in which no signs were given. To better understand what is meant by transition refer back to the definition about distinguished. It also might help one to understand what a "transition" word is. The "but" in verse 36 is transitioning from one subject to another.

The expression "that day and hour" in verse 36 connects the pronouncement "heaven and earth shall pass away" in verse 35--that day and hour being when heaven and earth shall pass away, and is therefore related to the Lord's second coming. In 2 Peter 3:10 it is declared that "the day of the Lord will come... in which the heavens shall pass away... the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Thus the passing away of heaven and earth, mentioned in verse 35 of Matthew 24, shall be an event accompanying "the coming of the Son of man" in verses 36 and 37, and with these verses the Lord's discourse turns from the destruction of Jerusalem to the second coming of Christ.

Having clearly established the fact that the Lord discusses his second coming in Matthew 24, we can now call attention to the following ways in which the Lord distinguishes between the destruction of Jerusalem and his second coming. In Matthew 24:4-35 the Lord uses the plural "days" to describe the tribulation associated with the destruction of Jerusalem (see verses 19, 22, 29). In Jesus' reply to the question concerning the second coming (24:36-51 and 25:1-46) the singular "day" is used to refer to that event (24:36, 42, 44, 50 and 25:13).

In reply to the question concerning the destruction of Jerusalem, Jesus gave a rather specific sign. They ask the question "Tell us, when shall these things be?" In Matthew 24:15 Jesus said, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation... stand in the holy place..." In his parallel account, Luke identifies the "abomination" which Jesus foretold as the encompassing of Jerusalem by the Roman army: " And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh" (Luke 21:20). In Matthew 24:33 Jesus said, " So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the door." He went on to say in verse 34, "this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." (compare also Matthew 24:36).

In contrast to the specific sign Jesus gave to them concerning the destruction of Jerusalem (4-35), Jesus acknowledged his own lack of knowledge of the time of his second coming: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only."(24:36).

After describing the rather normal routine of life which would characterize the time prior to his second coming, in contrast to the turbulent time which would precede the destruction of Jerusalem, Jesus compared his second coming with the arrival of a "thief" (24:43-44). This comparison, which is also made in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 and 2 Peter 3:10, has no moral connotation (an idea or feeling that a word invokes in addition to its literal or primary meaning.) but rather implies that as a thief gives no advanced announcement of his visit, neither will Christ give a prior notice of his second coming.

It is also important to note, that in verses 15-34 of Matthew 24, describes the actual events of the destruction of Jerusalem. It is very obvious that verses 15-28 cannot be in reference to the end of the world as people taking flight/ running away would not matter in the least if such were the case. Matthew 24:20, "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter..." Why would Jesus give false hope of fleeing if this was talking about the end of the world?

You will clearly see that even secular history can support the evidence that the events in Matthew 24:4-35 have already come to pass. The "false messiahs" verses 4 and 5 already happened see Acts 5:33-37 and Josephus (secular writer) also mentions this in his books. Then to describe the verses 6-8 The predictions of "wars and rumors of wars" history is plum full of evidence of the turmoil Rome was faced with internally let alone externally especially from the period of Christ's death to the destruction of Jerusalem. Look it up. The predictions of "famine" take a look at Acts 11:28. Again already happened. The talk on "earthquakes" many of them. Look at secular history again one of the most famous of the earthquakes then was Pompeii Feb. 5th A.D. 66. The parts on christians being persecuted in verses 9-13 see to the bible Acts 4 and 5. Stephen was stoned to death Acts 6 and 7. Against the church Acts 8 and 9. James gets beheaded Acts 12. And Paul spoke of heavy persecution often see also 2 Timothy 1:15; 4:10, 16. False teachers Acts 20:29; Romans 16:17-18; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 John 4:1. Then look at verse 14 of Matthew 24 "gospel... preached in all the world...then the end will come" Now look at Colossians 1:6, 23.

Quick helpful reference chart Mat. 24

1. Key Text and The Context

a. "This generation shall not pass" v34 the "time-text" of the chapter

b. "but of that day and hour" v36 the "transition-text" of the chapter

c. The context: Culmination of prophecies and warnings

d. The disciples questions: 24:1-3

2. Signs of the Destruction of Jerusalem: 24:4-35

a. General Signs: 24:4-14

b. Specific Signs: 24:15-28

c. Apocalyptic Language: 24:29-33/ Similar language also used concerning:

i. The destruction of Babylon (Isaiah 13:10)

ii. The destruction of Edom (Isaiah 34:4-5)

iii. The destruction of Egypt (Ezekiel 32:7-8)

3. The End of the World: 24:36 through 25:46

a. Contrast between this (Mat.24:36-25:46) and the former section of Matthew 24 (Mat.24:4-35)

Jesus teaches the suddenness of the second coming (like a thief/ no signs, warnings, announcements).

Given the evidence of verses and secular writers such as Josephus, what did I overlook?
Showing a historic fulfillment of prophesy is not the challenge; proving that it is the last and final fulfillment is the problem; that is where we disagree.
 
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If you look at verse 34 which we will call the "time-text" of Matthew 24: "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." This verse divides the chapter into two sections. What has gone before refers to the destruction of Jerusalem which did occur during the lifetime of the generation Jesus addressed. The section that follows refers to the Lord's second coming, the time for which is not indicated.

In verse 36 Jesus said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only." That day is an expression frequently used in the new testament to refer to the day of judgment (Matthew 7:22; 2 Timothy 4:8). This verse (v.36) marks the transition between an earlier section (4-35) in which Jesus had given several definite signs of the destruction of Jerusalem and a later section (36-51) referring to the end of the world, in which no signs were given. To better understand what is meant by transition refer back to the definition about distinguished. It also might help one to understand what a "transition" word is. The "but" in verse 36 is transitioning from one subject to another.

The expression "that day and hour" in verse 36 connects the pronouncement "heaven and earth shall pass away" in verse 35--that day and hour being when heaven and earth shall pass away, and is therefore related to the Lord's second coming. In 2 Peter 3:10 it is declared that "the day of the Lord will come... in which the heavens shall pass away... the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Thus the passing away of heaven and earth, mentioned in verse 35 of Matthew 24, shall be an event accompanying "the coming of the Son of man" in verses 36 and 37, and with these verses the Lord's discourse turns from the destruction of Jerusalem to the second coming of Christ.

Having clearly established the fact that the Lord discusses his second coming in Matthew 24, we can now call attention to the following ways in which the Lord distinguishes between the destruction of Jerusalem and his second coming. In Matthew 24:4-35 the Lord uses the plural "days" to describe the tribulation associated with the destruction of Jerusalem (see verses 19, 22, 29). In Jesus' reply to the question concerning the second coming (24:36-51 and 25:1-46) the singular "day" is used to refer to that event (24:36, 42, 44, 50 and 25:13).

In reply to the question concerning the destruction of Jerusalem, Jesus gave a rather specific sign. They ask the question "Tell us, when shall these things be?" In Matthew 24:15 Jesus said, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation... stand in the holy place..." In his parallel account, Luke identifies the "abomination" which Jesus foretold as the encompassing of Jerusalem by the Roman army: " And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh" (Luke 21:20). In Matthew 24:33 Jesus said, " So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the door." He went on to say in verse 34, "this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." (compare also Matthew 24:36).

In contrast to the specific sign Jesus gave to them concerning the destruction of Jerusalem (4-35), Jesus acknowledged his own lack of knowledge of the time of his second coming: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only."(24:36).

After describing the rather normal routine of life which would characterize the time prior to his second coming, in contrast to the turbulent time which would precede the destruction of Jerusalem, Jesus compared his second coming with the arrival of a "thief" (24:43-44). This comparison, which is also made in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 and 2 Peter 3:10, has no moral connotation (an idea or feeling that a word invokes in addition to its literal or primary meaning.) but rather implies that as a thief gives no advanced announcement of his visit, neither will Christ give a prior notice of his second coming.

It is also important to note, that in verses 15-34 of Matthew 24, describes the actual events of the destruction of Jerusalem. It is very obvious that verses 15-28 cannot be in reference to the end of the world as people taking flight/ running away would not matter in the least if such were the case. Matthew 24:20, "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter..." Why would Jesus give false hope of fleeing if this was talking about the end of the world?

You will clearly see that even secular history can support the evidence that the events in Matthew 24:4-35 have already come to pass. The "false messiahs" verses 4 and 5 already happened see Acts 5:33-37 and Josephus (secular writer) also mentions this in his books. Then to describe the verses 6-8 The predictions of "wars and rumors of wars" history is plum full of evidence of the turmoil Rome was faced with internally let alone externally especially from the period of Christ's death to the destruction of Jerusalem. Look it up. The predictions of "famine" take a look at Acts 11:28. Again already happened. The talk on "earthquakes" many of them. Look at secular history again one of the most famous of the earthquakes then was Pompeii Feb. 5th A.D. 66. The parts on christians being persecuted in verses 9-13 see to the bible Acts 4 and 5. Stephen was stoned to death Acts 6 and 7. Against the church Acts 8 and 9. James gets beheaded Acts 12. And Paul spoke of heavy persecution often see also 2 Timothy 1:15; 4:10, 16. False teachers Acts 20:29; Romans 16:17-18; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 John 4:1. Then look at verse 14 of Matthew 24 "gospel... preached in all the world...then the end will come" Now look at Colossians 1:6, 23.

Quick helpful reference chart Mat. 24

1. Key Text and The Context

a. "This generation shall not pass" v34 the "time-text" of the chapter

b. "but of that day and hour" v36 the "transition-text" of the chapter

c. The context: Culmination of prophecies and warnings

d. The disciples questions: 24:1-3

2. Signs of the Destruction of Jerusalem: 24:4-35

a. General Signs: 24:4-14

b. Specific Signs: 24:15-28

c. Apocalyptic Language: 24:29-33/ Similar language also used concerning:

i. The destruction of Babylon (Isaiah 13:10)

ii. The destruction of Edom (Isaiah 34:4-5)

iii. The destruction of Egypt (Ezekiel 32:7-8)

3. The End of the World: 24:36 through 25:46

a. Contrast between this (Mat.24:36-25:46) and the former section of Matthew 24 (Mat.24:4-35)

Jesus teaches the suddenness of the second coming (like a thief/ no signs, warnings, announcements).

Given the evidence of verses and secular writers such as Josephus, what did I overlook?
Revelation 6 has many parallels to Matt 24; the majority of scholars date Revelation being written in 96 A.D.; so once again the neat packaging of a historical fulfillment comes unraveled. Your theology is not wrong, just incomplete in recognizing the multiple dimensions of prophetic fulfillment.
 
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Is North Korea the little horn?
NO:
After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
Daniel 7:7-8
And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
Daniel 8:9

This little horn is the power and might of the Vatican and the Catholic Papacy.
Roman Catholicism is the mother of Europe, and later one of the feet of Daniel's statue.
Rome stills rules Europe and Christianity through worldly economical and political power.
Rome and her Popes still usurp Jesus as the head of the church (on Earth) and endlessly works
for all wayward Protestant and Orthodox denominations to come back into the "Mother Church."
Rome and the Papacy still hold themselves of higher authority than the Holy Scriptures, the Word
of God. From Latin Bibles that only the priesthood were allowed to read to burning translators to
Papal Bulls teaching corrupt worldly doctrines.
Martin Luther took on Rome 500 years ago concerning the authority of the Scriptures and Rome still
has not repented from her blasphemies and doctrinal errors.
 
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And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Revelation 13:11-12

The second beast is the rise in power of the Bishop of Rome who usurped authority over all the other
Bishops of Christendom [Boniface III] - the first Pope, Papa, Pontus Maximus.
Described as a dragon in sheep's clothing. Oh and how true!
The first beast whose deadly wound was healed refers to the old imperial Rome and her empire.
After the fall and sacking of Rome a new Holy Roman Empire developed and Rome was restored to preeminence and political power exercised through the Papacy and Roman Catholicism.
The Little Horn of Daniel is about the rise of a small King amongst the 10 other kings of Christian
Europe who would wield great power and influence over them, and speak blasphemies against
God and the truth. And that is the history of Rome, even today.

Rome still rules the nations by the universal influence of Catholicism and her doctrines and practices.

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains,
on which the woman sits.
18 And the woman which thou saw is that great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.
Revelation 17:4-6,9,18
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Revelation 18:24
 
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Just to be clear on my original post, when I say nk is the little horn, my thinking is the 10 horns are nuclear weapons and who has the power over them.Not saying this changes anything and I'm going to stop worrying so much about it. But there seems to be so many signs of impending war it's got me worried :-(
 
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Just to be clear on my original post, when I say nk is the little horn, my thinking is the 10 horns are nuclear weapons and who has the power over them.Not saying this changes anything and I'm going to stop worrying so much about it. But there seems to be so many signs of impending war it's got me worried :-(

To be honest I'm not a big fan of Freemasons there are some where I live and I know them to be dishonest people. But they have been tampering around with Holy secrets and ancient knowledges so maybe one of them was sincere and the lord revealed his plan to him.
 
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And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Revelation 13:11-12

The second beast is the rise in power of the Bishop of Rome who usurped authority over all the other
Bishops of Christendom [Boniface III] - the first Pope, Papa, Pontus Maximus.
Described as a dragon in sheep's clothing. Oh and how true!
The first beast whose deadly wound was healed refers to the old imperial Rome and her empire.
After the fall and sacking of Rome a new Holy Roman Empire developed and Rome was restored to preeminence and political power exercised through the Papacy and Roman Catholicism.
The Little Horn of Daniel is about the rise of a small King amongst the 10 other kings of Christian
Europe who would wield great power and influence over them, and speak blasphemies against
God and the truth. And that is the history of Rome, even today.

Rome still rules the nations by the universal influence of Catholicism and her doctrines and practices.

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains,
on which the woman sits.
18 And the woman which thou saw is that great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.
Revelation 17:4-6,9,18
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Revelation 18:24
Have you read Foxes book of acts, sometimes known as the book of martyrs?
 
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Good news is I haven't had to open my mouth once on this forum, so you're safe. Maybe you should read "Babylon Mystery Religion: Ancient and Modern" and spend 3 years in healthy protestant church outside of the RCC, before you form an opinion about my opinion.

I've read it, it's trash, and it was withdrawn from publication, by the author, when he found out that his research was based on incorrect data, and I HAVE spent several years in a Protestant Church outside of the RCC (Do you know of any Protestant church INSIDE the RCC?). So, been there, done that, got the T-Shirt, mug, and refrigerator magnet to prove it.
 
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I do understand what you are saying. That is why it is important to go by what scripture says. Notice more than half the time people misinterpret, its because of reading comprehension. They miss important words like "but" in Matthew 24:36 indicating a transition in topics.

You mentioned Easter. Can you find any scriptural evidence that Jesus was indeed risen on that date we have on our calender's? Can you even find the month Jesus was risen?

Now I don't have any problems with people that want to make a calendar day celebration. My problem is when they try to force it on others. Romans 14. The bible made no such command to have ONE day of the year celebrated specifically like we do with Easter.

HOWEVER, we are commanded to come together every first day of the week (Sunday), to celebrate our Lord and do the Lords supper in remembrance. If you wish for that scripture, I would be more than delighted, but I just don't want to derail much from your OP.
I understand what you are saying about Easter but tell that to those on my other thread " why is good Friday only two days from Easter Sunday? " lol I read the first reply which seemed to make an awful lot of sense to me, but then everyone else joined in :)
 
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Hi monk, do you mean don't cast aspersions at the catholic faith? I have noticed quite a lot of Catholic bashing going on. I'm not a catholic myself but I don't blame you guys for the troubles of the world :) just saying.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Besides, is it against the CF rules to do so.
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Good news is I haven't had to open my mouth once on this forum, so you're safe. Maybe you should read "Babylon Mystery Religion: Ancient and Modern" and spend 3 years in healthy protestant church outside of the RCC, before you form an opinion about my opinion.

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Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Besides, is it against the CF rules to do so.
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Thanks for your reply. I just want to say I'm not against Catholics in any way, I know quite a few and have recently taken on a contract in partnership with a guy called Charlie who is a catholic. I trust him totally. Although he can be a bit of a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] head now and then. :)
 
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This little horn is the power and might of the Vatican and the Catholic Papacy.
Roman Catholicism is the mother of Europe, and later one of the feet of Daniel's statue.
Rome stills rules Europe and Christianity through worldly economical and political power.
Rome and her Popes still usurp Jesus as the head of the church (on Earth) and endlessly works
for all wayward Protestant and Orthodox denominations to come back into the "Mother Church."
Rome and the Papacy still hold themselves of higher authority than the Holy Scriptures, the Word
of God. From Latin Bibles that only the priesthood were allowed to read to burning translators to
Papal Bulls teaching corrupt worldly doctrines.
Martin Luther took on Rome 500 years ago concerning the authority of the Scriptures and Rome still
has not repented from her blasphemies and doctrinal errors.

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This little horn is the power and might of the Vatican and the Catholic Papacy.
Roman Catholicism is the mother of Europe, and later one of the feet of Daniel's statue.
Rome stills rules Europe and Christianity through worldly economical and political power.
Rome and her Popes still usurp Jesus as the head of the church (on Earth) and endlessly works
for all wayward Protestant and Orthodox denominations to come back into the "Mother Church."
Rome and the Papacy still hold themselves of higher authority than the Holy Scriptures, the Word
of God. From Latin Bibles that only the priesthood were allowed to read to burning translators to
Papal Bulls teaching corrupt worldly doctrines.
Martin Luther took on Rome 500 years ago concerning the authority of the Scriptures and Rome still
has not repented from her blasphemies and doctrinal errors.
Jack Chick:
Influencing folks that can't think for themselves even after his death....
 
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Thanks for your reply. I just want to say I'm not against Catholics in any way, I know quite a few and have recently taken on a contract in partnership with a guy called Charlie who is a catholic. I trust him totally. Although he can be a bit of a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] head now and then. :)
Whoops didn't realise that was a cursing word sorry !
 
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I believe that Islam is the BEAST. The Beast has manifested itself throughout history, governed by SATAN in various empires: Babylon, Egypt, Medo/Persian, Assyrian, Greek, Roman but now the nations who are against Israel (and Israel has also been in the middle of Bible history) are Islamic nations. Cush, Put, Rosh, Meschec and Tubal, Togarmah, Gomer, etc are all Islamic regions now.
Listen, 3 horns have been plucked out: Qadhafi, Mubarek and Sadaam or soon to be Assad and then out of the remaining seven countries (some recently blocked from entering the U.S. btw), one little horn emerges. Iran wants Israel annihilated, most Muslims would be on board with that. This ISIS group have support of over 150 million Muslims worldwide. So why would anybody at this time think that the Beast would be some revised Roman Empire is beyond me. We are at the precipice, where good and evil will separate. The Great Tribulation may start as soon as 9-23-17, when a sign in the heavens appears: a woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet with 12 stars around her head. That week just so happens to be the Feast of Trumpets and they may start to blow. It also happens to be around 1260 days from the first blood moon in the tetrad - so that btw happens to be significant - don't you think. Four blood moons then this sign during the feasts and along with N. Korea, Iran, Russia being aggressive, there you have it. So the little horn is the Antichrist. People thought it was Obama or Putin. Some think it has to be a Jew. ??? No, the Antichrist attacks the Jews and who is more likely to do that? An Islamic leader.
 
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